Can Obama save the Democrats?

[Mac1958]

Well, it was an interesting thread for a while, at least.

Then the children began spraying on it.


.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with a truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
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Is Mac suggesting he will be voting for the extreme left anyway?

Mac is so confusing. He claims he is against Trump's spending. Yet, he votes for democrats and will vote for any democrat. Even the ones proposing a $93 trillion dollar new green deal AND Medicare for all. Get that? Against Trump spending and votes for democrats.

He claims he hates identity politics and votes for democrats. Now, he is seemingly suggesting that obama was not an extreme leftist? That he did not engage in identity politics. That is the only thing the democrats have used for 50 years. They have been socialists since Woodrow Wilson.

Is there a bigger example of what a deranged hypocritical extreme leftist than Mac. Is it the lies that he tells us or the ones he tells himself that creeps you out more about Mac?

MAC has always been a fraud..........LOL

Yup, BLASTED Hillary then voted for her.

I was 100% Against Trump and wrote in Walker.

Some people are true to their word and some aren't

 

[JoeB131]

The Republican created Romneycare was used in Massachusetts and there are similarities to that and Obamacare. But I bet you did not know that the people of Massachusetts tried to stop Obamacare. Senator Kennedy was diagnosed with brain cancer, but they knew that they needed his vote to pass the legislation in the Senate. So do you know what they did, they tried to get the laws changed so that someone could fill in who was appointed who would vote for Obamacare like he wanted. Problem is, that attempt failed as Scott Brown, the first Republican to be elected to the Senate in the liberal state in decades who ran on stopping Obamacare, was elected. So there he was poised to stop the legislation in the Senate but the democrats used Reconciliation to bypass him. Of course, the only way they could get their own members to vote for the bill was to bribe them like they did the Cornhusker kickback, etc. That is when you heard Pelosi in the House famously say, "We need to first pass the legislation so we can read it and know what is in it."

Blah, blah, blah... yes, we get the disgraceful manuevers that stuck us with the ACA. What they SHOULD have done was deployed the nuclear option, put in the Public Option and Medicare Buy In, and been done with it instead of going Republican Lite to appease Joe Lieberjew (D-Israel).

Silly Americans, only my Zionist Masters get universal Healthcare that you pay for!.

In short, I am in favor of states creating their own health care system like they did in MA. I may not agree with it, but a liberal state should be able to pass liberal policies. Likewise, a conservative state should be able to pass conservative polices. This is how Federalism is designed to work. That way you have a myriad of various health care policies out there and then we can see what actually works better verses forcing a divided nation to put all it's eggs in one basket win, lose, or draw. Instead, Progressives have created a top heavy government where the President now lives our lives for us. He tells us what doctors we should have, what health treatments we can obtain, what teacher educates our children and with what curriculum, and even what pots we are able to piss in.

Progressives have destroyed Federalism.

No. What we need is single payer with health coverage as a right. It's not like this is new territory EVERY OTHER INDUSTRIALIZED NATION HAS UNIVERSAL HEALTH COVERAGE.

That big Pharma, Big Insurance and Big Medical block any reform because they can't make as much money off human suffering is the problem.

 

[Theowl32]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with a truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
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Is Mac suggesting he will be voting for the extreme left anyway?

Mac is so confusing. He claims he is against Trump's spending. Yet, he votes for democrats and will vote for any democrat. Even the ones proposing a $93 trillion dollar new green deal AND Medicare for all. Get that? Against Trump spending and votes for democrats.

He claims he hates identity politics and votes for democrats. Now, he is seemingly suggesting that obama was not an extreme leftist? That he did not engage in identity politics. That is the only thing the democrats have used for 50 years. They have been socialists since Woodrow Wilson.

Is there a bigger example of what a deranged hypocritical extreme leftist than Mac. Is it the lies that he tells us or the ones he tells himself that creeps you out more about Mac?

I know my politics confuse you. They're not terribly complicated, but they flummox you terribly.

I don't how to fix that. Plus, I know you're going to fabricate my positions anyway, so I don't know what to tell you.

Can't help you. Sorry.
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What exactly am I getting wrong? Be specific.

Watch now folks as Mac obfuscates and then accuses me of obfuscating. You know, as he obfuscates.

He still thinks someone like me who proclaims I am a disgraceful sinner is being a hypocrite when I proclaim that I am disgraceful sinner.

Do you think Mac needs help? I will admit I need it. No doubt.

Is Mac certifiable though? He is weird.

 

[jknowgood]

Lol, anifta is saying send the Jews to the ovens. They do represent your party well.

When did they say this? Are you listening to Fox News again?

There is a forum on here about it. Like I said they represent your party very well.
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Liberals

Lol, enough said.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Well, it was an interesting thread for a while, at least.

Then the children began spraying on it.


.

Isn't it funny how you calling out others in their threads is fair game but when they do it to you it's "pissing on it"

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

So Trump will win California and Illnois with that right?

No, you will be very upset in 2020 when you discover your polls were wrong once again.

The key is Warren is hated more than Trump, so Latino and Black voters might not vote instead...

You make a comment about TEXAS. I reply to comment about TEXAS. You then invoke CALIFORNIA.....

Fail

You made comment about 40% of the latino vote, so I commented that mean Trump will win California and Illinois, right?

So as usual you failed and polls are like ex-prisoners and every once in awhile you get a good one but most are worthless...

So do not mention the Latino vote unless you state it is only for Texas and even then Trump will not garner that much of the damn vote!

Better yet punk why not wager and I bet that Trump get below 20% of the latino in Texas and nationwide and if I win you write a full page apology and if I lose I will write a full page apology and leave the board!

My bet is you will forget this and then whine and block me when you lose!

We were talking about Texas ya fucking retard. You know, the claim that Texas would flip from red to blue. Then you replied with California. A state that is HEAVILY already blue. And that somehow was your defense for a dumbass Texas comment.
Then you invoke personal comments about my past when called on it.

YOU FAIL

Read what you wrote you pathetic Trumpster!

You wrote Trump would get 40% of the Latino vote in 2020 and did not state just Texas which mean you meant nationwide!

So stop lying and either take the bet or admit your 40% is pure nonsense even for Texas!

And the true failure in life is anyone believing Trump will get 40% of the Latino vote but then again you believed Trump was getting 20 million Amish votes, so you are slow...

I said up to 40% and therefore a Texas flip was out of the question.

YOU countered with some California nonsense lol

You seem particularly triggered this morning.

Up to 40%?

Not a chance, so take the bet if you are so sure or are you willing to admit the number you pulled is from your ass?

George W. Bush was the last Republican to score high with the Latino vote and Trump was low in 2016, so now you think he will jump really high?

And you call me a failure!

Fact is Trumpsters like you believe Trump will win the black and latino vote while denying reality!

I stated also it would have to be a moderate to win Texas to flip, but as usual Trumpsters like you ignore this because if you factor that into your thinking you would admit a moderate could flip Texas...

Hell Cruz had a hard time beating Beto, and he is a leftist nutter, so if a Moderate would run the reality is Texas could flip and no Trump is never getting 40% of the Latino vote in Texas or Nationwide...

Again, you thought twenty million Amish were voting for Trump, so you are slow!

Also this thread is about Obama and the fact he can not save the Democrats and not your delusional theory Trump is Popular amongst Hispanic/Latinos...

 

[Theowl32]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with a truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
.

Is Mac suggesting he will be voting for the extreme left anyway?

Mac is so confusing. He claims he is against Trump's spending. Yet, he votes for democrats and will vote for any democrat. Even the ones proposing a $93 trillion dollar new green deal AND Medicare for all. Get that? Against Trump spending and votes for democrats.

He claims he hates identity politics and votes for democrats. Now, he is seemingly suggesting that obama was not an extreme leftist? That he did not engage in identity politics. That is the only thing the democrats have used for 50 years. They have been socialists since Woodrow Wilson.

Is there a bigger example of what a deranged hypocritical extreme leftist than Mac. Is it the lies that he tells us or the ones he tells himself that creeps you out more about Mac?

MAC has always been a fraud..........LOL

Yup, BLASTED Hillary then voted for her.

I was 100% Against Trump and wrote in Walker.

Some people are true to their word and some aren't

What did you feel writing in Walker was going to do?

Btw I liked Walker too. Better person than me.

 

[Thinker101]

The DEMS have a problem in my view. Well, 2 problems. Republicans are able to view an election as a strategic undertaking and will vote for anyone who wins their nomination. Trump is not a conservative; not a family values supporter, generally a scumbag who worships one thing; the blob he sees in the mirror.

From 8 years ago, this is a massive change in Republican demographics. Their voters have zero principles and are just dumb enough to believe what they are told.

The DEMS on the other hand, look at elections as if you get some sort of medal for not getting your party’s nomination that matters. Bernier supporters in particular.

The other problem is this…

I often listen to podcasts. One is “Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me” which is a comedic quiz show on NPR. During one of the set-ups to their bluff the listener segment, the host stated something to the effect that you can’t go on a good vacation for $5,000.00. I looked at the radio in my car with my mouth open really astounded that they actually said that. I know it’s a comedy show but the set-up isn’t meant to be a punch line. Also, one time the hosts of another show were talking about their reactions to Notre Dame burning down. All of them had visited the cathedral “numerous times”. While it’s no big deal, it seems to me that this is a symptom of elitist positioning. The broadcast was’t meant to be political but it is a symptom of what is; the dreaded “out of touch” label.

Actually Dems have 3 problems. No candidates, no platform and no clue.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You make a comment about TEXAS. I reply to comment about TEXAS. You then invoke CALIFORNIA.....

Fail

You made comment about 40% of the latino vote, so I commented that mean Trump will win California and Illinois, right?

So as usual you failed and polls are like ex-prisoners and every once in awhile you get a good one but most are worthless...

So do not mention the Latino vote unless you state it is only for Texas and even then Trump will not garner that much of the damn vote!

Better yet punk why not wager and I bet that Trump get below 20% of the latino in Texas and nationwide and if I win you write a full page apology and if I lose I will write a full page apology and leave the board!

My bet is you will forget this and then whine and block me when you lose!

We were talking about Texas ya fucking retard. You know, the claim that Texas would flip from red to blue. Then you replied with California. A state that is HEAVILY already blue. And that somehow was your defense for a dumbass Texas comment.
Then you invoke personal comments about my past when called on it.

YOU FAIL

Read what you wrote you pathetic Trumpster!

You wrote Trump would get 40% of the Latino vote in 2020 and did not state just Texas which mean you meant nationwide!

So stop lying and either take the bet or admit your 40% is pure nonsense even for Texas!

And the true failure in life is anyone believing Trump will get 40% of the Latino vote but then again you believed Trump was getting 20 million Amish votes, so you are slow...

I said up to 40% and therefore a Texas flip was out of the question.

YOU countered with some California nonsense lol

You seem particularly triggered this morning.

Up to 40%?

Not a chance, so take the bet if you are so sure or are you willing to admit the number you pulled is from your ass?

George W. Bush was the last Republican to score high with the Latino vote and Trump was low in 2016, so now you think he will jump really high?

And you call me a failure!

Fact is Trumpsters like you believe Trump will win the black and latino vote while denying reality!

I stated also it would have to be a moderate to win Texas to flip, but as usual Trumpsters like you ignore this because if you factor that into your thinking you would admit a moderate could flip Texas...

Hell Cruz had a hard time beating Beto, and he is a leftist nutter, so if a Moderate would run the reality is Texas could flip and no Trump is never getting 40% of the Latino vote in Texas or Nationwide...

Again, you thought twenty million Amish were voting for Trump, so you are slow!

Also this thread is about Obama and the fact he can not save the Democrats and not your delusional theory Trump us Popular amongst Hispanic/Latinos...

Dance puppet

 

[NightFox]

Well, it was an interesting thread for a while, at least.

Then the children began spraying on it.


.

LOL,

Doesn't matter because the REAL savior of the Crime Family-D is gonna be Michael Bloomberg and his $58 Billion fortune.

IMHO Mike and his Billions sloshing around in the Crime Family-D primary contest is going to make it almost as entertaining as Donny hiijacking the Crime Family-R nomination in 2016; personally I hope Mike wins the nomination, that'll really drive the far left wing dingbats nuts.

 

[Mac1958]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with a truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
.

Is Mac suggesting he will be voting for the extreme left anyway?

Mac is so confusing. He claims he is against Trump's spending. Yet, he votes for democrats and will vote for any democrat. Even the ones proposing a $93 trillion dollar new green deal AND Medicare for all. Get that? Against Trump spending and votes for democrats.

He claims he hates identity politics and votes for democrats. Now, he is seemingly suggesting that obama was not an extreme leftist? That he did not engage in identity politics. That is the only thing the democrats have used for 50 years. They have been socialists since Woodrow Wilson.

Is there a bigger example of what a deranged hypocritical extreme leftist than Mac. Is it the lies that he tells us or the ones he tells himself that creeps you out more about Mac?

I know my politics confuse you. They're not terribly complicated, but they flummox you terribly.

I don't how to fix that. Plus, I know you're going to fabricate my positions anyway, so I don't know what to tell you.

Can't help you. Sorry.
.

What exactly am I getting wrong? Be specific.

Watch now folks as Mac obfuscates and then accuses me of obfuscating. You know, as he obfuscates.

He still thinks someone like me who proclaims I am a disgraceful sinner is being a hypocrite when I proclaim that I am disgraceful sinner.

Do you think Mac needs help? I will admit I need it. No doubt.

Is Mac certifiable though? He is weird.

Yes, I know you think I'm "weird".

I have no need to obfuscate, I just know that trying to communicate with nutters is pointless.

Here. Absolutely, 100% full disclosure, no obfuscation. This is the second line of my sig, linked to a thread in which I disembowel a Regressive Lefty. My positions on the issues are made quite clear: 2. >>> For the liars who pretend I claim to be a centrist/moderate/impartial/unbiased/fence-sitter: Come on Jake, man up, just this once.

Do you have the balls to read it? If you do, you'll know your "extreme leftist" silliness is just more nutter dishonesty.

Or will you obfuscate?
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[eagle1462010]

Well, it was an interesting thread for a while, at least.

Then the children began spraying on it.


.

Awe..............I didn't call you a fraud for a long time on this thread.........LOL

You are a fraud.............the so called adult in the room.......everyone else is your children.

 

[gipper]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with a truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
.

No. Ears is responsible for destroying the D Party.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

You made comment about 40% of the latino vote, so I commented that mean Trump will win California and Illinois, right?

So as usual you failed and polls are like ex-prisoners and every once in awhile you get a good one but most are worthless...

So do not mention the Latino vote unless you state it is only for Texas and even then Trump will not garner that much of the damn vote!

Better yet punk why not wager and I bet that Trump get below 20% of the latino in Texas and nationwide and if I win you write a full page apology and if I lose I will write a full page apology and leave the board!

My bet is you will forget this and then whine and block me when you lose!

We were talking about Texas ya fucking retard. You know, the claim that Texas would flip from red to blue. Then you replied with California. A state that is HEAVILY already blue. And that somehow was your defense for a dumbass Texas comment.
Then you invoke personal comments about my past when called on it.

YOU FAIL

Read what you wrote you pathetic Trumpster!

You wrote Trump would get 40% of the Latino vote in 2020 and did not state just Texas which mean you meant nationwide!

So stop lying and either take the bet or admit your 40% is pure nonsense even for Texas!

And the true failure in life is anyone believing Trump will get 40% of the Latino vote but then again you believed Trump was getting 20 million Amish votes, so you are slow...

I said up to 40% and therefore a Texas flip was out of the question.

YOU countered with some California nonsense lol

You seem particularly triggered this morning.

Up to 40%?

Not a chance, so take the bet if you are so sure or are you willing to admit the number you pulled is from your ass?

George W. Bush was the last Republican to score high with the Latino vote and Trump was low in 2016, so now you think he will jump really high?

And you call me a failure!

Fact is Trumpsters like you believe Trump will win the black and latino vote while denying reality!

I stated also it would have to be a moderate to win Texas to flip, but as usual Trumpsters like you ignore this because if you factor that into your thinking you would admit a moderate could flip Texas...

Hell Cruz had a hard time beating Beto, and he is a leftist nutter, so if a Moderate would run the reality is Texas could flip and no Trump is never getting 40% of the Latino vote in Texas or Nationwide...

Again, you thought twenty million Amish were voting for Trump, so you are slow!

Also this thread is about Obama and the fact he can not save the Democrats and not your delusional theory Trump us Popular amongst Hispanic/Latinos...

Dance puppet

Better yet link your up to 40% because if you have no link then you are a lying partisan hack!

Take the bet loser or is your poll like most ex-prisoners and usually worthless?

Why not admit you left out the part I stated a moderate and stated Warren and Company have no chance and even Biden has no chance but Bloomberg does...

Now get that link of your poll that support your comment!

 

[Mac1958]

Well, it was an interesting thread for a while, at least.

Then the children began spraying on it.


.

Isn't it funny how you calling out others in their threads is fair game but when they do it to you it's "pissing on it"

It's in the behaviors, Gramps. I'll bet you know that.
.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

When Trump won in 2016, I expressed concern that the blowback from the hardcore Left would be so strong that the Democratic Party would be taken over by the illiberal, authoritarian Regressive Left, leaving us with a truly fucked up choice in 2020.

So, bang, here we are. Obama sees it, too: Obama looms over divided Democratic primary

So, can Obama save the party?

His latest remarks came last week as Obama met with party donors in California, where he urged Democrats to “chill out” about the primary contest and prepare to rally behind the eventual nominee. But he also appeared to warn against calling for too drastic of change.

“When you listen to the average voter — even ones who aren’t stalwart Democrats, but who are more independent or are low-information voters — they don’t feel that things are working well, but they’re also nervous about changes that might take away what little they have,” Obama said.

For some Democrats, Obama’s remarks reinforced their concerns that the primary field has lurched too far to the left and that the party may be barreling toward a loss in 2020 unless it can unite behind a moderate nominee capable of appealing to a broader swath of voters in the general election.

“I think that to some extent Obama is the canary in the coal mine,” said Dick Harpootlian, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party who is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential bid. “He’s warning Democrats that if you buy an agenda that is not relevant or salable in November, you’re guaranteeing Donald Trump a second term.”
.

Is Mac suggesting he will be voting for the extreme left anyway?

Mac is so confusing. He claims he is against Trump's spending. Yet, he votes for democrats and will vote for any democrat. Even the ones proposing a $93 trillion dollar new green deal AND Medicare for all. Get that? Against Trump spending and votes for democrats.

He claims he hates identity politics and votes for democrats. Now, he is seemingly suggesting that obama was not an extreme leftist? That he did not engage in identity politics. That is the only thing the democrats have used for 50 years. They have been socialists since Woodrow Wilson.

Is there a bigger example of what a deranged hypocritical extreme leftist than Mac. Is it the lies that he tells us or the ones he tells himself that creeps you out more about Mac?

MAC has always been a fraud..........LOL

Yup, BLASTED Hillary then voted for her.

I was 100% Against Trump and wrote in Walker.

Some people are true to their word and some aren't

What did you feel writing in Walker was going to do?

Btw I liked Walker too. Better person than me.

It gave me the piece of mind that I exercised my right and I voted for who I considered to be the best man for the job.
I was convinced Trump was just a bored billionaire playing a game for his own entertainment.

I was wrong

 

[jknowgood]

You make a comment about TEXAS. I reply to comment about TEXAS. You then invoke CALIFORNIA.....

Fail

You made comment about 40% of the latino vote, so I commented that mean Trump will win California and Illinois, right?

So as usual you failed and polls are like ex-prisoners and every once in awhile you get a good one but most are worthless...

So do not mention the Latino vote unless you state it is only for Texas and even then Trump will not garner that much of the damn vote!

Better yet punk why not wager and I bet that Trump get below 20% of the latino in Texas and nationwide and if I win you write a full page apology and if I lose I will write a full page apology and leave the board!

My bet is you will forget this and then whine and block me when you lose!

We were talking about Texas ya fucking retard. You know, the claim that Texas would flip from red to blue. Then you replied with California. A state that is HEAVILY already blue. And that somehow was your defense for a dumbass Texas comment.
Then you invoke personal comments about my past when called on it.

YOU FAIL

Read what you wrote you pathetic Trumpster!

You wrote Trump would get 40% of the Latino vote in 2020 and did not state just Texas which mean you meant nationwide!

So stop lying and either take the bet or admit your 40% is pure nonsense even for Texas!

And the true failure in life is anyone believing Trump will get 40% of the Latino vote but then again you believed Trump was getting 20 million Amish votes, so you are slow...

I said up to 40% and therefore a Texas flip was out of the question.

YOU countered with some California nonsense lol

You seem particularly triggered this morning.

Up to 40%?

Not a chance, so take the bet if you are so sure or are you willing to admit the number you pulled is from your ass?

George W. Bush was the last Republican to score high with the Latino vote and Trump was low in 2016, so now you think he will jump really high?

And you call me a failure!

Fact is Trumpsters like you believe Trump will win the black and latino vote while denying reality!

I stated also it would have to be a moderate to win Texas to flip, but as usual Trumpsters like you ignore this because if you factor that into your thinking you would admit a moderate could flip Texas...

Hell Cruz had a hard time beating Beto, and he is a leftist nutter, so if a Moderate would run the reality is Texas could flip and no Trump is never getting 40% of the Latino vote in Texas or Nationwide...

Again, you thought twenty million Amish were voting for Trump, so you are slow!

Also this thread is about Obama and the fact he can not save the Democrats and not your delusional theory Trump is Popular amongst Hispanic/Latinos...

Pelosi and Schiff has made sure Trump gets four more years.

 

[The Purge]

Really, Joey? Still going with the "can't trust Trump with the nukes cause he's CRAZY!" narrative?

Wall Street is "afraid" of Liz Warren because her economic policies will put us into a major recession and she really won't care!

Funny, you guys said the same thing about Obama, and funny thing... he got us out of the Bush Great Recession... but you were too busy being racist to notice...


NEXT!

Well who created this monster? It seems to me that Mr. Partisan shill who shoved a massive health care policy devoid of any Republican participation, Mr. RESIST at any cost has created the beast we have now. Oh, and I might add that this same democratic party is demanding to replace the health care system they all shoved down our collective throats and the ink is not even dry on the legislation. We tried to warn all of you ignorant fools.

You left out the part where the system that he supported was one Republicans advocated for years, until the Black Guy did it. Democrats always wanted Single Payer.... ACA was a compromise with the GOP and their masters in the Insurance industry... But it's like that movie where you make a shady deal with the bad guy and he screws you...

The Republican created Romneycare was used in Massachusetts and there are similarities to that and Obamacare. But I bet you did not know that the people of Massachusetts tried to stop Obamacare. Senator Kennedy was diagnosed with brain cancer, but they knew that they needed his vote to pass the legislation in the Senate. So do you know what they did, they tried to get the laws changed so that someone could fill in who was appointed who would vote for Obamacare like he wanted. Problem is, that attempt failed as Scott Brown, the first Republican to be elected to the Senate in the liberal state in decades who ran on stopping Obamacare, was elected. So there he was poised to stop the legislation in the Senate but the democrats used Reconciliation to bypass him. Of course, the only way they could get their own members to vote for the bill was to bribe them like they did the Cornhusker kickback, etc. That is when you heard Pelosi in the House famously say, "We need to first pass the legislation so we can read it and know what is in it."

In short, I am in favor of states creating their own health care system like they did in MA. I may not agree with it, but a liberal state should be able to pass liberal policies. Likewise, a conservative state should be able to pass conservative polices. This is how Federalism is designed to work. That way you have a myriad of various health care policies out there and then we can see what actually works better verses forcing a divided nation to put all it's eggs in one basket win, lose, or draw. Instead, Progressives have created a top heavy government where the President now lives our lives for us. He tells us what doctors we should have, what health treatments we can obtain, what teacher educates our children and with what curriculum, and even what pots we are able to piss in.

Progressives have destroyed Federalism.

Romney is a Republican just like Mike Doomsberg is a Republican....ROTFLMFAO!!!...Pander to whatever is the FLAVOR OF THE DAY....EVEN DERANGED LEFTIST LIKE THE YOUNG TURKS KNOWS IT

 

[MAGAman]

You're kidding me right?

The meat puppet faggot is responsible for the democrook party swinging hard left.

True. But Obama was better at pretending that "hard left" was normal.

He's a better liar