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What a stupid comment. How can one be pro-life if they support the death of the woman, to save the baby? In this instance, it's a damned if one does and damned if one doesn't situation. Either you support the death of the mother, or you support the death of the child so, either way, you're not being pro-life. So, one has no other choice than to be hypocritical in the situation. If you support the mother's death, you're not "pro-LIFE". If you support the unborn child's death, you're not "pro-LIFE". Duh!
So no pro lifer is really pro life, are they? And neither is the Catholic Church, who would prefer a woman die rather than have an abortion.
First, I don't belong to the Catholic Church so, I'm not necessarily familiar with everything it is they might say on some particular given issue. Second, it would be interesting to see you qualify your claim, by showing us some official statement by the Catholic Church which states it would prefer a woman die, rather than have an abortion. Third and lastly, perhaps a pro-lifer really ISN'T pro-life, in the sense that they have to choose the death of a mother or the death of an unborn child. But, we DO know a pro-abortionist is a pro-abortionist through and through. See, whereas the pro-lifers might say abortion might possibly be permitted in a case of the mother's life being put in danger or her health in serious jeopardy or, might possibly be permitted in the case of rape or incest, on the other hand, in what instance does a pro-abortionist permit NO abortion?
And neither is the Catholic Church, who would prefer a woman die rather than have an abortion.
Pro choice means we simply want women to have the right to choose.
Pro choice means we simply want women to have the right to choose.
To choose abortion. Therefore, pro-abortion.
Pro choice means we simply want women to have the right to choose.
To choose abortion. Therefore, pro-abortion.
I don't encourage women to choose abortion. I want them to consider all their options - keeping the baby, adoption, or abortion. Abortion should be considered as a last resort, not the first.
And neither is the Catholic Church, who would prefer a woman die rather than have an abortion.
Where have you seen that stated as the official policy of the Catholic Church?
And neither is the Catholic Church, who would prefer a woman die rather than have an abortion.
Where have you seen that stated as the official policy of the Catholic Church?
Just google it.
And neither is the Catholic Church, who would prefer a woman die rather than have an abortion.
Where have you seen that stated as the official policy of the Catholic Church?
Just google it. I doubt you accept Wiki as a source, but there are other sources. There are maps which highlight which countries are opposed to abortion for any reason and Vatican City is one of them. I did find an interactive map of abortion laws worldwide, however Vatican City doesn't appear to be included.
My personal goal is for abortion to be safeCorrect.
No one is ‘pro abortion.’
The issue centers on the solution.
Those of us who are opposed to abortion are opposed to laws banning abortion because they won’t work; such measures will simply drive the practice underground.
Those of us who are opposed to abortion are opposed to laws banning abortion because these laws would violate the Constitutional right to privacy. Moreover, these laws would grant unwarranted power to the state to interfere in citizens’ personal lives.
The conflict centers on how to end the practice, or at least reduce its occurrence as much as possible, not that abortion is wrong or immoral – which it clearly is.
You can kiss up and pander to her all you want. You're still not going to get laid.
Meanwhile, no one asked you to define "the issue" for us, and I would think by now you would have learned that no one WANTS you to define it, or intends to allow you to define it. We could all save a lot of time and energy if you pro-abortionists would quit bloviating endlessly on the wonders of your worldview and just answered the fucking questions you work so hard to evade.
Just because you're stupid enough to think no one notices that you never answer the question doesn't mean WE'RE stupid enough not to notice.
So see if your next post can contain something vaguely replicating an answer to these questions, Pro-Abortion:
You claim "nobody is ever 'pro-abortion'. Why not? What's wrong with it, that you so strenuously resist being labeled as being in favor of it? If it's no big deal, as your rhetoric makes it seem, what's the problem with openly supporting it? And if it IS a big deal, as Pro-Abortionist Seawych claimed before running away again like a scalded bitch, WHY is it a big deal?
For the record, I don't think you'll answer. I think you're a chickenshit little pussy who likes to give grand speeches to impress the "wimmens", but your balls crawl up inside you and hide at the idea of ever having to really explore the reasons behind what you profess and explain them to others and yourself.
Amuse us all and prove me wrong about what a lame little poltroon I believe you to be. Give me a real shock and man up for once.
Yeah, right.
You obviously are done with this discussion since you can't find it in you to converse without being a complete ass.
I've not run anywhere but to work. I'm home now and quite willing to have you completely disregard anything I say because it doesn't fit your twisted notion of a "liberal view".
I am not pro-abortion. I'm pro-life and support a women's right to make personal medical decisions regarding HER BODY with her family and her doctor without interference from pre-birth psychos like you.
My personal goal is for abortion to be safe, legal and (especially) rare. You do that through education and access to birth control.
If you are for legalized abortion, that makes you pro abortion. If you are in favor of a woman having the *right* to kill her unborn child, then you are pro abortion.
Words mean something. Own it.
And if you were really 'pro life' you would be opposed to abortion in EVERY circumstance, even if the mother would die. Otherwise you are nothing but a dumb hypocrite.
Pro choice means we simply want women to have the right to choose.
To choose abortion. Therefore, pro-abortion.
I don't encourage women to choose abortion. I want them to consider all their options - keeping the baby, adoption, or abortion. Abortion should be considered as a last resort, not the first.
The Catholic Church is against all abortion, and believes it is never necessary to save the mothers life.
The Catholic Church is against all abortion, and believes it is never necessary to save the mothers life.
There are quite a few doctors that feel the same way...
If you are for legalized abortion, that makes you pro abortion. If you are in favor of a woman having the *right* to kill her unborn child, then you are pro abortion.
Words mean something. Own it.
And if you were really 'pro life' you would be opposed to abortion in EVERY circumstance, even if the mother would die. Otherwise you are nothing but a dumb hypocrite.
I gave you your answer. There is no such thing as "pro abortion", there is only pro choice. That you don't like the answer is your hang up not mine.
Correct.
No one is pro abortion.
The issue centers on the solution.
Those of us who are opposed to abortion are opposed to laws banning abortion because they wont work; such measures will simply drive the practice underground.
Those of us who are opposed to abortion are opposed to laws banning abortion because these laws would violate the Constitutional right to privacy. Moreover, these laws would grant unwarranted power to the state to interfere in citizens personal lives.
The conflict centers on how to end the practice, or at least reduce its occurrence as much as possible, not that abortion is wrong or immoral which it clearly is.
You can kiss up and pander to her all you want. You're still not going to get laid.
Meanwhile, no one asked you to define "the issue" for us, and I would think by now you would have learned that no one WANTS you to define it, or intends to allow you to define it. We could all save a lot of time and energy if you pro-abortionists would quit bloviating endlessly on the wonders of your worldview and just answered the fucking questions you work so hard to evade.
Just because you're stupid enough to think no one notices that you never answer the question doesn't mean WE'RE stupid enough not to notice.
So see if your next post can contain something vaguely replicating an answer to these questions, Pro-Abortion:
You claim "nobody is ever 'pro-abortion'. Why not? What's wrong with it, that you so strenuously resist being labeled as being in favor of it? If it's no big deal, as your rhetoric makes it seem, what's the problem with openly supporting it? And if it IS a big deal, as Pro-Abortionist Seawych claimed before running away again like a scalded bitch, WHY is it a big deal?
For the record, I don't think you'll answer. I think you're a chickenshit little pussy who likes to give grand speeches to impress the "wimmens", but your balls crawl up inside you and hide at the idea of ever having to really explore the reasons behind what you profess and explain them to others and yourself.
Amuse us all and prove me wrong about what a lame little poltroon I believe you to be. Give me a real shock and man up for once.
Yeah, right.
If you are for legalized abortion, that makes you pro abortion. If you are in favor of a woman having the *right* to kill her unborn child, then you are pro abortion.
Words mean something. Own it.
And if you were really 'pro life' you would be opposed to abortion in EVERY circumstance, even if the mother would die. Otherwise you are nothing but a dumb hypocrite.
And if you had more than two brain cells functioning at any given time, you'd know that a sociopathic twat like you is massively undedrqualified to tell me what I believe and how I should believe it. It's bad enough that you're arrogant enough to think you're a human being, without you being arrogant enough to pretend to dictate morality for those of us who actually ARE both human and moral.
Piss off, you sick lowlife.
If you are for legalized abortion, that makes you pro abortion. If you are in favor of a woman having the *right* to kill her unborn child, then you are pro abortion.
Words mean something. Own it.
And if you were really 'pro life' you would be opposed to abortion in EVERY circumstance, even if the mother would die. Otherwise you are nothing but a dumb hypocrite.
What a stupid comment. How can one be pro-life if they support the death of the woman, to save the baby? In this instance, it's a damned if one does and damned if one doesn't situation. Either you support the death of the mother, or you support the death of the child so, either way, you're not being pro-life. So, one has no other choice than to be hypocritical in the situation. If you support the mother's death, you're not "pro-LIFE". If you support the unborn child's death, you're not "pro-LIFE". Duh!
And if you were really 'pro life' you would be opposed to abortion in EVERY circumstance, even if the mother would die. Otherwise you are nothing but a dumb hypocrite.
What a stupid comment. How can one be pro-life if they support the death of the woman, to save the baby? In this instance, it's a damned if one does and damned if one doesn't situation. Either you support the death of the mother, or you support the death of the child so, either way, you're not being pro-life. So, one has no other choice than to be hypocritical in the situation. If you support the mother's death, you're not "pro-LIFE". If you support the unborn child's death, you're not "pro-LIFE". Duh!
It's like this. When one is incapable of reasoned rational thought, as Noomi Bundy is, and utterly lacking in anything vaguely resembling a moral compass, as Noomi Bundy is, one substitutes childish, one-size-fits-all memes instead, as Noomi Bundy just did. It's actually a large part of why people - to use that term loosely - like her end up becoming fanatic worshippers of the state, particularly oppressive, dictatorial ones: because government by its very nature provides simplistic, one-size-fits-all solutions to problems, and oppressive governments are more than happy to do their thinking and moralizing for them.
If you watch Noomi for a little bit, you'll see an absolutely fascinating - if frightening - real-life example of what the perfect citizens were like under regimes like the Nazis, the Soviets, Mao Tse Tung . . . And you'll realize that the belief so many people have that those horrors were just tragic anomalies that could never happen in modern, civilized society is very, VERY wrong.
So no pro lifer is really pro life, are they? And neither is the Catholic Church, who would prefer a woman die rather than have an abortion.
First, I don't belong to the Catholic Church so, I'm not necessarily familiar with everything it is they might say on some particular given issue. Second, it would be interesting to see you qualify your claim, by showing us some official statement by the Catholic Church which states it would prefer a woman die, rather than have an abortion. Third and lastly, perhaps a pro-lifer really ISN'T pro-life, in the sense that they have to choose the death of a mother or the death of an unborn child. But, we DO know a pro-abortionist is a pro-abortionist through and through. See, whereas the pro-lifers might say abortion might possibly be permitted in a case of the mother's life being put in danger or her health in serious jeopardy or, might possibly be permitted in the case of rape or incest, on the other hand, in what instance does a pro-abortionist permit NO abortion?
I can prove easily that the Catholic Church forbids abortion in any case. Vatican City. Abortion is not allowed, at all. Google it.
Pro lifers are pro life only when it suits them. To them, a little bit of killing is okay.
And no one is pro abortion. No one goes around encouraging women to have abortions. Pro choice means we simply want women to have the right to choose. It is not my problem lifers are too stupid to understand that.
