Can socialists in this country explain how taxing American corporations/companies more is good?

[rightwinger]

No they don't. A union ensures that the workforce is getting a fair share of the wealth they create

$50 trillion in wealth has been added to our economy since 2009. Workers saw very little of that. Strong unions would have ensured it

Then why didn't the unions insist on profit sharing instead of ridiculous pay raises and other benefits? If that's not an option, then it's none of the workers business how much the company makes. A worker is a worker, not part owner in a company.

Right now, workers are getting neither.

I suspect they are wary of profit sharing plans where the employer gets to determine the profit

 

[Conservative65]

Republicans want to destroy this country and suck the dick of the people that are offshoring all of our jobs.

Really? So how are they doing that?

Matthew is projecting what he does in his private time.

 

[Conservative65]

No they don't. A union ensures that the workforce is getting a fair share of the wealth they create

$50 trillion in wealth has been added to our economy since 2009. Workers saw very little of that. Strong unions would have ensured it

Then why didn't the unions insist on profit sharing instead of ridiculous pay raises and other benefits? If that's not an option, then it's none of the workers business how much the company makes. A worker is a worker, not part owner in a company.

Right now, workers are getting neither.

So they're working for free?

 

[rightwinger]

The jobs are there. Without unions, there are stagnant wages and no benefits as company profits go through the roof

With unions, those jobs get paid more than the skills are worth.

No they don't. A union ensures that the workforce is getting a fair share of the wealth they create

$50 trillion in wealth has been added to our economy since 2009. Workers saw very little of that. Strong unions would have ensured it

Fair share? Tell me how much is your fair share of someone else's money?

It is the workers creating that wealth. Because their ability to collectively negotiate, they see less and less of that wealth they generate

So you can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share?

If a business fails, do you consider it the workers' fault? If, as you say, they create it, can they also lose it?

The workers do lose. They are the first ones to be fired when profits decrease.

 

[owebo]

Republicans want to destroy this country and suck the dick of the people that are offshoring all of our jobs.

Really? So how are they doing that?

Matthew is projecting what he does in his private time.

In addition to surfing porn on his government computer as a worthless government employee....

 

[owebo]

With unions, those jobs get paid more than the skills are worth.

No they don't. A union ensures that the workforce is getting a fair share of the wealth they create

$50 trillion in wealth has been added to our economy since 2009. Workers saw very little of that. Strong unions would have ensured it

Fair share? Tell me how much is your fair share of someone else's money?

It is the workers creating that wealth. Because their ability to collectively negotiate, they see less and less of that wealth they generate

So you can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share?

If a business fails, do you consider it the workers' fault? If, as you say, they create it, can they also lose it?

The workers do lose. They are the first ones to be fired when profits decrease.

So, we should 'fire' the profits?

 

[Conservative65]

With unions, those jobs get paid more than the skills are worth.

No they don't. A union ensures that the workforce is getting a fair share of the wealth they create

$50 trillion in wealth has been added to our economy since 2009. Workers saw very little of that. Strong unions would have ensured it

Fair share? Tell me how much is your fair share of someone else's money?

It is the workers creating that wealth. Because their ability to collectively negotiate, they see less and less of that wealth they generate

So you can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share?

If a business fails, do you consider it the workers' fault? If, as you say, they create it, can they also lose it?

The workers do lose. They are the first ones to be fired when profits decrease.

That's not what I asked. Is it their fault?

Still can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Obama. 2009. Payroll tax cut. And they are blocked every other time, dupe.

Yeah, a payroll tax cut. He cut taxes that go to a program (Social Security) that's going broke. Brilliant.

 

[Wilbur Right]

Still can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share

What a stupid fucking question. And you keep asking it over and over. Y o u stuck on stupid aren't ya?

 

[owebo]

Still can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share

What a stupid fucking question. And you keep asking it over and over. Y o u stuck on stupid aren't ya?

And you still can't answer it......

 

[Conservative65]

Still can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share

What a stupid fucking question. And you keep asking it over and over. Y o u stuck on stupid aren't ya?

It came as a result of rightwinger talking about fair share. Maybe you can answer it or are you too stupid. You've proven to be a coward.

 

[Conservative65]

Still can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share

What a stupid fucking question. And you keep asking it over and over. Y o u stuck on stupid aren't ya?

And you still can't answer it......

It's not a stupid question but the coward Wilbur is too stupid to answer it.

 

[owebo]

Still can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share

What a stupid fucking question. And you keep asking it over and over. Y o u stuck on stupid aren't ya?

And you still can't answer it......

It's not a stupid question but the coward Wilbur is too stupid to answer it.

His on-line basket weaving degree doesn't give him the ability to answer it......

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You know what? If you have a point, make your point WITHOUT trying to insult people first. You insult, I'll ignore.

The word Ignorant is not an insult at all. Ignorant means uneducated or unfamiliar about something. We are all ignorant to a degree. I'm ignorant at sports. I don't care much for sports unless our home team is doing good like the Cavs. I'm ignorant in auto mechanics. I don't know how to fix most things on a car.

 

[Conservative65]

You know what? If you have a point, make your point WITHOUT trying to insult people first. You insult, I'll ignore.

The word Ignorant is not an insult at all. Ignorant means uneducated or unfamiliar about something. We are all ignorant to a degree. I'm ignorant at sports. I don't care much for sports unless our home team is doing good like the Cavs. I'm ignorant in auto mechanics. I don't know how to fix most things on a car.

Maybe frigidweirdo is ignorant to the meaning of ignorant.

 

[owebo]

You know what? If you have a point, make your point WITHOUT trying to insult people first. You insult, I'll ignore.

The word Ignorant is not an insult at all. Ignorant means uneducated or unfamiliar about something. We are all ignorant to a degree. I'm ignorant at sports. I don't care much for sports unless our home team is doing good like the Cavs. I'm ignorant in auto mechanics. I don't know how to fix most things on a car.

Democrats are ignorant on civilization.....

 

[rightwinger]

Still can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share

What a stupid fucking question. And you keep asking it over and over. Y o u stuck on stupid aren't ya?

It came as a result of rightwinger talking about fair share. Maybe you can answer it or are you too stupid. You've proven to be a coward.

Well, let's discuss the concept of fair then

When you sit down at a negotiating table and your opponent is holding all the cards....is it fair?
Is take it or leave it fair?

We have created a system where the employer makes the rules with the government supporting his right to do so. Do you consider resulting negotiations to be fair?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Are you saying there are jobs out there for every unemployed person? Is that what you are saying? Really? Please supply links to your assertions...

Maybe not every single person, but plenty of jobs out there that employers can't find workers for.

In my industry alone, we need tens of thousands of new drivers that companies can't find. It's so bad that they are turning to foreigners to take these jobs. And as the baby boom drivers retire, we are going to need more.

I spend most of my day in industrial sections. They are all littered with HELP WANTED signs.

 

[Conservative65]

Still can't say how much of what belongs to someone else is your fair share

What a stupid fucking question. And you keep asking it over and over. Y o u stuck on stupid aren't ya?

It came as a result of rightwinger talking about fair share. Maybe you can answer it or are you too stupid. You've proven to be a coward.

Well, let's discuss the concept of fair then

When you sit down at a negotiating table and your opponent is holding all the cards....is it fair?
Is take it or leave it fair?

We have created a system where the employer makes the rules with the government supporting his right to do so. Do you consider resulting negotiations to be fair?

When you have skills that are considered valuable and multiple companies doing the same things want you, the "opponent" isn't holding all the cards.

When someone doesn't have many skills to offer their lack of cards isn't the fault of the "opponent".

When someone offers so few skills that the "opponent" could pick names out of a hat and get someone capable of doing what he needs done, the lack of cards a person hold is their fault not the dealers.

When the employer is the one that is spending HIS/HER money when it comes to who they hire and what they pay, why should those who the money does not belong to get to make the rules? You want to be able to dictate to the person who has the money what they should do with it. If that's what you want, start a business and do whatever you want with YOUR money.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How about working for yourself?

I'm a little too old for that. Besides, running your own business isn't as easy as many think it is.

I work full time, but I'm a landlord as well. That takes a good amount of time, especially around April when I have to file my taxes. It takes me several days of sitting behind a desk going through receipts, payments, dividing out expenditures, adding and adding columns of numbers. It's a real pain in the ass.