Chicago concealed carry gun owner kills robber...

[Iron Head]

Bullshit. The sub-human was a serial armed robber.

It doesn't matter. If he didn't shoot anyone then he wasn't a threat.

Are you fucking high? He was waiving a gun around, and you think that he is only a threat if he actually pulls the trigger and shoots somebody? That kind of thinking would completely eviscerate self-defense law, you moron.

Son, you need to go think about your position a little more, or sober up.

PMH is a big criminal supporter. No crime should be punished and he even thinks that humans are a pox on the world so actually adviocates that people be killed. Why he snivels over a criminal getting killed I have no idea.

Paint is apparently also a total moron. This is simple stuff. That shooter is not going to be charged with a crime, even in Chicago. You point a gun at someone and a victim or bystander in the vicinity shoots and kills the guy, then it is self-defense. If he is shot fleeing, then you would probably see a voluntary manslaughter charge, but that is not what happened here.

We'll see, but if there was no threat, it's second-degree murder. Keep that in mind eh?

Waiving a gun around, pointing it - a deadly weapon - at people is a sufficient threat under the law to justify deadly force in the defense of self.

Paint, why don't you just stay away from topics you know nothing whatsoever about, K?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Robbers shoot the clerk all the time. Maybe it does not happen in your world, but it does here on earth, you moron.

Nope, they almost never do...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Waiving a gun around, pointing it - a deadly weapon - at people is a sufficient threat under the law to justify deadly force in the defense of self.

Nope, not according to the law.

 

[Iron Head]

and the victims knew his history how?

They didn't so, they had to go with the numbers, which is most robbers just want money. That is what the store policies not fight back are based on.

Paint, your "point" is so fucking stupid that it is not worthy of the time to reply.

Nothing stupid about it. It's a well-known and established policy. It's math, and logic. I.e. - 7-11 Worker Fired For Fighting Back Against Robber

Yeah, that policy works soooo welll.....

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They have a whole lot of stores, that are robbed a lot. In most cases no one gets harmed. It's a math thing...

That factor is completely irrelevant in analyzing use of deadly force in self defense. The standard, if I remember it correctly, is that you are justified to use deadly force if the perp's actions would cause a reasonable person in apprehension of imminent death or severe bodily injury. Some states have more restrictive rules, such as proving that retreat is not an option.

There is no better example of justifiable used of deadly force than this case. Even in the strictest jurisdictions that require retreat before use of deadly force, this shooter was justified. There is no avenue to retreat when someone is holding a gun on you ad may shoot you if you run.

A person with a gun pointed at him is not required to stand down because the guy "probably" will flee without killing them. That proposition is founded on ignorance.

 

[Iron Head]

Waiving a gun around, pointing it - a deadly weapon - at people is a sufficient threat under the law to justify deadly force in the defense of self.

Nope, not according to the law.

Uh, yes it is.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Waiving a gun around, pointing it - a deadly weapon - at people is a sufficient threat under the law to justify deadly force in the defense of self.

Nope, not according to the law.

Uh, yes it is.

He wasn't being robbed, nor was the gun pointed at him. Just another John Wayne wannabe. Legally Justifiable Self Defense | FunctionalSelfDefense.org

 

[Iron Head]

Robbers shoot the clerk all the time. Maybe it does not happen in your world, but it does here on earth, you moron.

Nope, they almost never do...

Even if you are correct on the statistics, it is still irrelevant because of the legal standard I have quoted to you several times, jackass.

 

[Iron Head]

Waiving a gun around, pointing it - a deadly weapon - at people is a sufficient threat under the law to justify deadly force in the defense of self.

Nope, not according to the law.

Uh, yes it is.

He wasn't being robbed, nor was the gun pointed at him. Just another John Wayne wannabe.

Still irrelevant to the legal analysis, moron. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Robbers shoot the clerk all the time. Maybe it does not happen in your world, but it does here on earth, you moron.

Nope, they almost never do...

Even if you are correct on the statistics, it is still irrelevant because of the legal standard I have quoted to you several times, jackass.

Your legal standard is BS. He will probably face charges, and the family of the robber will sue. That's life, when you try and play the hero.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Waiving a gun around, pointing it - a deadly weapon - at people is a sufficient threat under the law to justify deadly force in the defense of self.

Nope, not according to the law.

Uh, yes it is.

He wasn't being robbed, nor was the gun pointed at him. Just another John Wayne wannabe.

Still irrelevant to the legal analysis, moron. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

Oh, but I do... Self-Defense

 

[Iron Head]

Robbers shoot the clerk all the time. Maybe it does not happen in your world, but it does here on earth, you moron.

Nope, they almost never do...

Even if you are correct on the statistics, it is still irrelevant because of the legal standard I have quoted to you several times, jackass.

Your legal standard is BS. He will probably face charges, and the family of the robber will sue. That's life, when you try and play the hero.

It is not "bs". It is the law, you stupid twat.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Robbers shoot the clerk all the time. Maybe it does not happen in your world, but it does here on earth, you moron.

Nope, they almost never do...

Even if you are correct on the statistics, it is still irrelevant because of the legal standard I have quoted to you several times, jackass.

Your legal standard is BS. He will probably face charges, and the family of the robber will sue. That's life, when you try and play the hero.

It is not "bs". It is the law, you stupid twat.

The law is not on his side, as he was not being threatened...

 

[Iron Head]

Waiving a gun around, pointing it - a deadly weapon - at people is a sufficient threat under the law to justify deadly force in the defense of self.

Nope, not according to the law.

Uh, yes it is.

He wasn't being robbed, nor was the gun pointed at him. Just another John Wayne wannabe.

Still irrelevant to the legal analysis, moron. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

Oh, but I do... Self-Defense

Idiot. This is such a clear case of legal self defense the prosecutors probably will not even charge the shooter. They have pretty much already implied this.

 

[Iron Head]

Robbers shoot the clerk all the time. Maybe it does not happen in your world, but it does here on earth, you moron.

Nope, they almost never do...

Even if you are correct on the statistics, it is still irrelevant because of the legal standard I have quoted to you several times, jackass.

Your legal standard is BS. He will probably face charges, and the family of the robber will sue. That's life, when you try and play the hero.

It is not "bs". It is the law, you stupid twat.

The law is not on his side, as he was not being threatened...

What color is the sky in your world, Paint?

 

[westwall]

You're funny! Totally divorced from reality, but funny as hell. Criminals far too often kill for their own amusement AFTER the clerk has complied. Fuck them.

Nope, they almost never do...

There are story after story of where they do so your assertion is flat out wrong. Go figure, you're wrong about most everything.

 

[westwall]

Bullshit. The sub-human was a serial armed robber.

It doesn't matter. If he didn't shoot anyone then he wasn't a threat.

Are you fucking high? He was waiving a gun around, and you think that he is only a threat if he actually pulls the trigger and shoots somebody? That kind of thinking would completely eviscerate self-defense law, you moron.

Son, you need to go think about your position a little more, or sober up.

PMH is a big criminal supporter. No crime should be punished and he even thinks that humans are a pox on the world so actually adviocates that people be killed. Why he snivels over a criminal getting killed I have no idea.

Paint is apparently also a total moron. This is simple stuff. That shooter is not going to be charged with a crime, even in Chicago. You point a gun at someone and a victim or bystander in the vicinity shoots and kills the guy, then it is self-defense. If he is shot fleeing, then you would probably see a voluntary manslaughter charge, but that is not what happened here.

We'll see, but if there was no threat, it's second-degree murder. Keep that in mind eh?

It would be a truly moronic ADA that would bring that case to court. The shooter would be thanked by the members of the jury. You really have no clue just how stupid your position is, do you....

 

[westwall]

Robbers shoot the clerk all the time. Maybe it does not happen in your world, but it does here on earth, you moron.

Nope, they almost never do...

Even if you are correct on the statistics, it is still irrelevant because of the legal standard I have quoted to you several times, jackass.

Your legal standard is BS. He will probably face charges, and the family of the robber will sue. That's life, when you try and play the hero.

It is not "bs". It is the law, you stupid twat.

The law is not on his side, as he was not being threatened...

Actually you're wrong, as usual.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You're funny! Totally divorced from reality, but funny as hell. Criminals far too often kill for their own amusement AFTER the clerk has complied. Fuck them.

Nope, they almost never do...

There are story after story of where they do so your assertion is flat out wrong. Go figure, you're wrong about most everything.

The exceptions make the news. not what happens normally, which is nothing. it if bleeds, it leads...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Nope, they almost never do...

Even if you are correct on the statistics, it is still irrelevant because of the legal standard I have quoted to you several times, jackass.

Your legal standard is BS. He will probably face charges, and the family of the robber will sue. That's life, when you try and play the hero.

It is not "bs". It is the law, you stupid twat.

The law is not on his side, as he was not being threatened...

Actually you're wrong, as usual.

Nope. The robber wanted what was behind the counter, and it looks like if he had a gun, it wasn't real...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It doesn't matter. If he didn't shoot anyone then he wasn't a threat.

Are you fucking high? He was waiving a gun around, and you think that he is only a threat if he actually pulls the trigger and shoots somebody? That kind of thinking would completely eviscerate self-defense law, you moron.

Son, you need to go think about your position a little more, or sober up.

PMH is a big criminal supporter. No crime should be punished and he even thinks that humans are a pox on the world so actually adviocates that people be killed. Why he snivels over a criminal getting killed I have no idea.

Paint is apparently also a total moron. This is simple stuff. That shooter is not going to be charged with a crime, even in Chicago. You point a gun at someone and a victim or bystander in the vicinity shoots and kills the guy, then it is self-defense. If he is shot fleeing, then you would probably see a voluntary manslaughter charge, but that is not what happened here.

We'll see, but if there was no threat, it's second-degree murder. Keep that in mind eh?

It would be a truly moronic ADA that would bring that case to court. The shooter would be thanked by the members of the jury. You really have no clue just how stupid your position is, do you....

Kids, you can't just shoot people committing a crime. Now you know.