Child bride in Yemen dies of internal bleeding on wedding night: activist

Breslov rabbi discovered at fault of abusing his 6 wives, child sexy assault, slavery.

Jerusalem*:*Israel*| Sep 11, 2013

Breslov rabbi was found at fault of numerous felony misdeeds, encompassing abusing his six wives, sexually assaulting his young kids, and slavery, according to court proceedings in Israel.The Jerusalem locality Court convicted on Tuesday the head of a Breslov sect and his aide, who were arrested and ascribed, two years before.His family encompasses his six wives and dozens of young kids. The head of the sect assured women to join his family, but one time they did, he turned their lives into torment, with personal, sexy and mental abuse, both against them and against their children.According to court articles, D., was suspect of retaining persons in slavery, bodily, mentally and sexually mishandling children and their mothers, illicit detention, rape, and sodomy.D. glimpsed himself as the successor of Rabbi Nachman of Uman, and the individual selected to disperse his doctrine in the world.*He got more and more women to join his cult after assuring them of his exceptional powers.D. dwelled with his family of six wives and dozens of young kids, in luxury suites in Jerusalem and Tiberias.Two men travelling to the rabbi’s were furthermore accused of committing serious sexy infringements and aggression, under the personal instructions of D.*throughout a seek of the rabbi’s dwellings, policeman discovered electric shockers, twisted cords, and rods, as well as health notes from distinct clinics over the country, pointing to personal wounds suffered by the children.

Breslov rabbi discovered at fault of abusing his 6 wives, child sexy assault, slavery.

A Rabbi is convicted in Israel, they do not even release his name.
 
Child Marriage Facts and Figures | ICRW

Note that the 'authorities' in Afghanistan, Iran, and some other nations are not very forthcoming with information on this or many associated topics.

When we look at the 'top 20' - all are in the Eastern Hemisphere, except Nicaragua. Actually, many of the nations appear to have a hefty 'Marxist' influence.

Aside from 'just' being poor - all these nations seem to have very patriarchal societies in common, and are very 'tribal', rather than having some level of 'national' culture. (what do I mean by that? In the US we have a very well-developed sense of 'American' identity which includes a slew of holidays that Americans of virtually every subculture enthusiastically participate in. Plus we have parades for whatever excuse we can find: it seems we take turns celebrating different groups' 'Pride Day' or similar. Americans seem to make a point of celebrating across our 'tribal' lines....)

We can see endless examples of how such tribalism retards the development of any nation - and we see echoes of that tribalism in the US, where we usually identify it correctly as 'racist' (wrong word, but right idea).

It's not 'conservatism'. The Taliban or the FLDS are not 'conservative'. They are not 'fundamentalist'. They are reactionary, and they are also of the conviction that female human beings are the property of men - or ought to be.

I am inclined to wonder what factors might be at work re: Nicaragua. I'm wondering if it's a partly a result of economic chaos brought on by heavy-handed 'central planning' that's a feature of many Marxist governments.... Certainly the more 'revolutionary' a government proclaims itself to be, the more it oppresses women (does not matter if it's 'Marxist' or 'religious' or 'socialist' or what!) and abuses them as 'property'.
 
From the Wiki article:

The Orphans' Decree was introduced in Yemen and obligated the Zaydi state to take under its protection and to educate in Islamic ways any dhimmi (i.e. non-Muslim) child whose parents had died when he or she was a minor. First introduced or revived in the 17th century,[1] the Orphans' Decree was ignored during Ottoman rule (1872–1918), but was observed during the period of Imam Yahya (1918–1948).[2] According to one source, the decree has "no parallel in other countries".[3]

Although forced conversion is not widely recognized under Islamic laws, historian and Arabist Shelomo Dov Goitein believes that a forced conversion of orphans could have been justified by the revelation attributed to Muhammad that states: "Every person is born to the natural religion [Islam], and only his parents make a Jew or a Christian out of him." [1]

You know what, a law in effect from 1918 to 1948 really does not add much to explaining a custom of child marriages in Yemen that goes back in time hundreds of years.

The fact is child marriages in Yemen occur and have been embraced by people there of different religions and the explanation for it is that it is cultural to Yemen society.

You know what, that reading comprehension problem of yours is getting a lot worse. The article clearly states this law was in effect from the 1600's on - with the exception of the Ottoman hegemony.

Post-1948, Yemen has been ruled by whom, exactly? An exceedingly weak and ineffective 'government' - and many tribal warlords (like Somalia), who each enforce their version of 'shari'a' as the law. For those who've forgotten - ALL human activity except a few 'survival reflexes' is due to culture. INCLUDING RELIGION.

The fact is that sherriKKKins is an ignorant lying hypocrite who is trying to pontificate about 'culture' when she has no idea what any of the facts are.

She's so in bondage to her bigotry, that takes precedence for her over any author, any number of reports, any amount of first-hand knowledge or experience.

I'm beginning to think the only knowledge sherriKKKins has of 'culture' is her athlete's foot fungus.

We do not live in the 1600s, we are discussing child marriages today, in 2013.

And the statements I made reflect that we are discussing child marriages today.

A practice that ended in 1948 says little of a custom that began long ago and continues today.

Learn to read and comprehend English and stop putting words in my mouth I never said.

My position is really quiet simple, I maintain child marriages in Yemen are cultural and span across all segments of the society, and across people from all religions.

The existence of Islam is not the reason child marriages exist in Yemen.
 

From your source:

◾No one religious affiliation was associated with child marriage, according to a 2007 ICRW study. Rather, a variety of religions are associated with child marriage in countries throughout the world

Child Marriage Hot Spots


Rank Country Name % girls married before 18
1 Niger 75
2 Chad 68
3 Central African Republic 68
4 Bangladesh 66
5 Guinea 63
6 Mozambique 56
7 Mali 55
8 Burkina Faso 52
9 South Sudan 52
10 Malawi 50
11 Madagascar 48
12 Eritrea 47
13 India 47
14 Somalia 45
15 Sierra Leone 44
16 Zambia 42
17 Dominican Republic 41
18 Ethiopia 41
19 Nepal 41
20 Nicaragua 41

Yemen is not even in the top 20 countries in your list.
 
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British haredi man charged with child sexual abuse attempts to get into Israel using phony passport, seeks citizenship under law allowing all Jews to immigrate to Jewish state

Does the Law of Return trump international law? This question will have to be ruled on by the High Court of Justice, following an attempt by an ultra-Orthodox Jew from England, who was charged with sexual abuse of children, to find asylum in Israel.
Law of Return ? or long arm of law? - Israel News, Ynetnews

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. 18"But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.…
http://biblehub.com/numbers/31-17.htm
 
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From your source:

◾No one religious affiliation was associated with child marriage, according to a 2007 ICRW study. Rather, a variety of religions are associated with child marriage in countries throughout the world

Child Marriage Hot Spots


Rank Country Name % girls married before 18
1 Niger 75
2 Chad 68
3 Central African Republic 68
4 Bangladesh 66
5 Guinea 63
6 Mozambique 56
7 Mali 55
8 Burkina Faso 52
9 South Sudan 52
10 Malawi 50
11 Madagascar 48
12 Eritrea 47
13 India 47
14 Somalia 45
15 Sierra Leone 44
16 Zambia 42
17 Dominican Republic 41
18 Ethiopia 41
19 Nepal 41
20 Nicaragua 41

Yemen is not even in the top 20 countries in your list.

I think - Marge is not arguing against you here Sherri. Not totally. Her post, which you quoted from - talked about culture, including religion as part of that culture as being partly causative. You can't always seperate culture from religion.

The fact that so many non-Muslim countries factor into this list is indicative that religion isn't a primary factor though.
 
British haredi man charged with child sexual abuse attempts to get into Israel using phony passport, seeks citizenship under law allowing all Jews to immigrate to Jewish state

Does the Law of Return trump international law? This question will have to be ruled on by the High Court of Justice, following an attempt by an ultra-Orthodox Jew from England, who was charged with sexual abuse of children, to find asylum in Israel.
Law of Return ? or long arm of law? - Israel News, Ynetnews

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. 18"But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.…
Numbers 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,

Child abuse and pedophilia occurs in all societies Jos...
 
Child Marriage Facts and Figures | ICRW

Note that the 'authorities' in Afghanistan, Iran, and some other nations are not very forthcoming with information on this or many associated topics.

When we look at the 'top 20' - all are in the Eastern Hemisphere, except Nicaragua. Actually, many of the nations appear to have a hefty 'Marxist' influence.

Aside from 'just' being poor - all these nations seem to have very patriarchal societies in common, and are very 'tribal', rather than having some level of 'national' culture. (what do I mean by that? In the US we have a very well-developed sense of 'American' identity which includes a slew of holidays that Americans of virtually every subculture enthusiastically participate in. Plus we have parades for whatever excuse we can find: it seems we take turns celebrating different groups' 'Pride Day' or similar. Americans seem to make a point of celebrating across our 'tribal' lines....)

We can see endless examples of how such tribalism retards the development of any nation - and we see echoes of that tribalism in the US, where we usually identify it correctly as 'racist' (wrong word, but right idea).

It's not 'conservatism'. The Taliban or the FLDS are not 'conservative'. They are not 'fundamentalist'. They are reactionary, and they are also of the conviction that female human beings are the property of men - or ought to be.

I am inclined to wonder what factors might be at work re: Nicaragua. I'm wondering if it's a partly a result of economic chaos brought on by heavy-handed 'central planning' that's a feature of many Marxist governments.... Certainly the more 'revolutionary' a government proclaims itself to be, the more it oppresses women (does not matter if it's 'Marxist' or 'religious' or 'socialist' or what!) and abuses them as 'property'.

Why would you say they aren't "fundamentalist"? They strike me as just that...most fundamentalist interpretations are very anti-woman.
 
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Does the Law of Return trump international law? This question will have to be ruled on by the High Court of Justice, following an attempt by an ultra-Orthodox Jew from England, who was charged with sexual abuse of children, to find asylum in Israel.
Law of Return ? or long arm of law? - Israel News, Ynetnews

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. 18"But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.…
Numbers 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,

Child abuse and pedophilia occurs in all societies Jos...

Some here would have us believe it is a Muslim thing
Jewish immigration activist arrested on child pornography charges

Read more: Jewish immigration activist arrested on child pornography charges | Jewish Telegraphic Agency
 
This is data reported on Wikipedia.


Percentage of women aged 20–24 who were married/in union before the age of 18 is listed in the table below. The data from ICRW, if traced all the way to the ultimate sources, is from surveys that are 10 to 20 years old. The UN data is between 10 to 15 years old.


Rank
per ICRW data

Country

% girls married
before 18
(ICRW data)[133]

% girls married
before 18
(UN data)[134]


1 Niger 75 62
2 Chad 72 49
3 Bangladesh 66 48
4 Guinea 63 46
5 Central African Republic 61 42
6 Mali 55 50
7 Mozambique 52 47
8 Malawi 50 37
9 Madagascar 48 34
10 Sierra Leone 48 47
11 Burkina Faso 48 35
12 India 47 30
13 Eritrea 47 38
14 Uganda 46 32
15 Somalia 45 38
16 Nicaragua 43 32
17 Zambia 42 24
18 Ethiopia 41 30
19 Nepal 41 40
20 Dominican Republic 40 29


Child marriage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

From your source:

◾No one religious affiliation was associated with child marriage, according to a 2007 ICRW study. Rather, a variety of religions are associated with child marriage in countries throughout the world

Child Marriage Hot Spots


Rank Country Name % girls married before 18
1 Niger 75
2 Chad 68
3 Central African Republic 68
4 Bangladesh 66
5 Guinea 63
6 Mozambique 56
7 Mali 55
8 Burkina Faso 52
9 South Sudan 52
10 Malawi 50
11 Madagascar 48
12 Eritrea 47
13 India 47
14 Somalia 45
15 Sierra Leone 44
16 Zambia 42
17 Dominican Republic 41
18 Ethiopia 41
19 Nepal 41
20 Nicaragua 41

Yemen is not even in the top 20 countries in your list.

I think - Marge is not arguing against you here Sherri. Not totally. Her post, which you quoted from - talked about culture, including religion as part of that culture as being partly causative. You can't always seperate culture from religion.

The fact that so many non-Muslim countries factor into this list is indicative that religion isn't a primary factor though.

I am just trying to nail down what is actually set forth in this report, to be distinquished from Marge's commentary on the report.
 
British haredi man charged with child sexual abuse attempts to get into Israel using phony passport, seeks citizenship under law allowing all Jews to immigrate to Jewish state


Law of Return ? or long arm of law? - Israel News, Ynetnews


Numbers 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,

Child abuse and pedophilia occurs in all societies Jos...

Some here would have us believe it is a Muslim thing
Jewish immigration activist arrested on child pornography charges

Read more: Jewish immigration activist arrested on child pornography charges | Jewish Telegraphic Agency
You find a few scattered examples of child marriage that aren't muslims and proclaim it isn't a "muslim thing", when in fact the overwhelming majority of offenders are muslims. You think you can sell that bullshit?
 
Child abuse and pedophilia occurs in all societies Jos...

Some here would have us believe it is a Muslim thing
Jewish immigration activist arrested on child pornography charges

Read more: Jewish immigration activist arrested on child pornography charges | Jewish Telegraphic Agency
You find a few scattered examples of child marriage that aren't muslims and proclaim it isn't a "muslim thing", when in fact the overwhelming majority of offenders are muslims. You think you can sell that bullshit?

They aren't a few "scattered" examples that aren't Muslim. Amongst the top ten countries with the highest rates of child marriages Christian dominant countries out number Muslim ones. The list of 20 nations where child marriages are a big problem cross the faith spectrum.
 
Child abuse and pedophilia occurs in all societies Jos...

Some here would have us believe it is a Muslim thing
Jewish immigration activist arrested on child pornography charges

Read more: Jewish immigration activist arrested on child pornography charges | Jewish Telegraphic Agency
You find a few scattered examples of child marriage that aren't muslims and proclaim it isn't a "muslim thing", when in fact the overwhelming majority of offenders are muslims. You think you can sell that bullshit?

It's called desperation.
 
Some here would have us believe it is a Muslim thing
You find a few scattered examples of child marriage that aren't muslims and proclaim it isn't a "muslim thing", when in fact the overwhelming majority of offenders are muslims. You think you can sell that bullshit?

It's called desperation.

No, it's presenting the facts. Looking at the listing of countries where child marriage is a problem makes it obvious that it isn't "a few scattered examples of child marriage that aren't muslims"

It's there in reference after reference :dunno:
 
It might be hard to believe----but there are some people who are SOOO STUUUPID---that
they argue--------If there is a country with 90% blue people and 10% green people---
and -------50 % of the people in that country are---------obese----that means that 45 % of the blue people are obese and 5 % of the green people are obese. Such stupidty
paid my tuition--------I tutored really dull kids thru high school geometry. They got
thru on my SWEAT-------but they remained stupid. I meet them again-------here
 

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