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I actually don't think the GI Bill works the same way it used to.
Regardless,the military is a great place to learn a career, our nephew goes into the USAF in August and they have his entire training and education already planned for him.
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Military life isn't for everyone, and just because someone can't adjust to the regimented lifestyle doesn't mean that they should have to pay for a higher education while others don't. If you look at the map of the countries who outperform the United States in Education performance, most... *drum roll* have free higher education, including, (nasty word coming so cover your children's ears) those that are considered socialist countries.
Except it's not free, nothing is ever free
Yes, it does end up being free because it is basically a cycle. Sure YOU might be the successfully hard working taxpayer NOW, but when some of your tax dollars goes into providing a free college education for someone else, then they become a successful hard working tax payer... and I think you get the gist of where I am going with this. But who ends up being the winner? We ALL do because in the end more jobs come to the United States because we have a better educated workforce to provide employees for companies. More companies, more jobs, more money flowing into the tax coffers. You see how this works?
I see how you think it will work but I doubt it would work. You take care of you and your children's education needs and we will do the same, I have no desire to fund you and yours...or anyone else
So simple to understand...
Do any of thise taxpayers make things or provide services that people buy? Well first of all, place tarifs on imported goods so they couldn't be sold for a cheaper price than what they would be if they were made in America. Then take taxpayer money and give everybody a check for 10,000 dollars. That would do to our economy what pouring gasoline onto a fire does for the fire. Tell me the taxpayers wouldn't end up benifiting.
Look, I'm for free education, but how come every time I debunk something you say you don't respond to it and instead use a red herring?
Are you talking to me? If so, what did I say that you debunked. And what is this "red herring" you speak of.
Regardless,the military is a great place to learn a career, our nephew goes into the USAF in August and they have his entire training and education already planned for him.
Military Tuition Assistance | Military.com
Military life isn't for everyone, and just because someone can't adjust to the regimented lifestyle doesn't mean that they should have to pay for a higher education while others don't. If you look at the map of the countries who outperform the United States in Education performance, most... *drum roll* have free higher education, including, (nasty word coming so cover your children's ears) those that are considered socialist countries.
Except it's not free, nothing is ever free
Yes, it does end up being free because it is basically a cycle. Sure YOU might be the successfully hard working taxpayer NOW, but when some of your tax dollars goes into providing a free college education for someone else, then they become a successful hard working tax payer... and I think you get the gist of where I am going with this. But who ends up being the winner? We ALL do because in the end more jobs come to the United States because we have a better educated workforce to provide employees for companies. More companies, more jobs, more money flowing into the tax coffers. You see how this works?
I see how you think it will work but I doubt it would work. You take care of you and your children's education needs and we will do the same, I have no desire to fund you and yours...or anyone else
But you forget that the economic system we live in is symbiotic. Your kid's degrees won't be any good if there are no jobs for them to use them with. Otherwise you are proud of a couple of kids that have engineering degrees and manage at MacDonald's. As a nation we need to have a larger, more educated talent pool to offer companies that otherwise are building their businesses in Asian countries where they have a smarter workforce.
When you give something away you negate all its value.
Making college "free" for everyone would result in just another 4 years of high school and the people attending would not be any better educated
It's sad when someone takes a serious topic like this and becomes a troll with it. If you are going to argue for free college education, at least bring good arguments to the table.
Military life isn't for everyone, and just because someone can't adjust to the regimented lifestyle doesn't mean that they should have to pay for a higher education while others don't. If you look at the map of the countries who outperform the United States in Education performance, most... *drum roll* have free higher education, including, (nasty word coming so cover your children's ears) those that are considered socialist countries.
Except it's not free, nothing is ever free
Yes, it does end up being free because it is basically a cycle. Sure YOU might be the successfully hard working taxpayer NOW, but when some of your tax dollars goes into providing a free college education for someone else, then they become a successful hard working tax payer... and I think you get the gist of where I am going with this. But who ends up being the winner? We ALL do because in the end more jobs come to the United States because we have a better educated workforce to provide employees for companies. More companies, more jobs, more money flowing into the tax coffers. You see how this works?
I see how you think it will work but I doubt it would work. You take care of you and your children's education needs and we will do the same, I have no desire to fund you and yours...or anyone else
But you forget that the economic system we live in is symbiotic. Your kid's degrees won't be any good if there are no jobs for them to use them with. Otherwise you are proud of a couple of kids that have engineering degrees and manage at MacDonald's. As a nation we need to have a larger, more educated talent pool to offer companies that otherwise are building their businesses in Asian countries where they have a smarter workforce.
Our children will be in demand due to their degrees, ones that don't apply themselves, take risks and go get that degree will be the ones at McDonalds....of course they will also be whining for $15 an hour they don't deserve because that Mickey D job isn't and shouldn't be a career goal
Except it's not free, nothing is ever free
Yes, it does end up being free because it is basically a cycle. Sure YOU might be the successfully hard working taxpayer NOW, but when some of your tax dollars goes into providing a free college education for someone else, then they become a successful hard working tax payer... and I think you get the gist of where I am going with this. But who ends up being the winner? We ALL do because in the end more jobs come to the United States because we have a better educated workforce to provide employees for companies. More companies, more jobs, more money flowing into the tax coffers. You see how this works?
I see how you think it will work but I doubt it would work. You take care of you and your children's education needs and we will do the same, I have no desire to fund you and yours...or anyone else
But you forget that the economic system we live in is symbiotic. Your kid's degrees won't be any good if there are no jobs for them to use them with. Otherwise you are proud of a couple of kids that have engineering degrees and manage at MacDonald's. As a nation we need to have a larger, more educated talent pool to offer companies that otherwise are building their businesses in Asian countries where they have a smarter workforce.
Our children will be in demand due to their degrees, ones that don't apply themselves, take risks and go get that degree will be the ones at McDonalds....of course they will also be whining for $15 an hour they don't deserve because that Mickey D job isn't and shouldn't be a career goal
No, because your kid's degrees will be a dime a dozen compared to the number of jobs out there that actually pay the ratio of value to earnings. If you think otherwise, you are simply chasing the dragon.
It's sad when someone takes a serious topic like this and becomes a troll with it. If you are going to argue for free college education, at least bring good arguments to the table.
Again, are you talking to me? If so, what is it that you think I said that isn't serious?
Yes, it does end up being free because it is basically a cycle. Sure YOU might be the successfully hard working taxpayer NOW, but when some of your tax dollars goes into providing a free college education for someone else, then they become a successful hard working tax payer... and I think you get the gist of where I am going with this. But who ends up being the winner? We ALL do because in the end more jobs come to the United States because we have a better educated workforce to provide employees for companies. More companies, more jobs, more money flowing into the tax coffers. You see how this works?
I see how you think it will work but I doubt it would work. You take care of you and your children's education needs and we will do the same, I have no desire to fund you and yours...or anyone else
But you forget that the economic system we live in is symbiotic. Your kid's degrees won't be any good if there are no jobs for them to use them with. Otherwise you are proud of a couple of kids that have engineering degrees and manage at MacDonald's. As a nation we need to have a larger, more educated talent pool to offer companies that otherwise are building their businesses in Asian countries where they have a smarter workforce.
Our children will be in demand due to their degrees, ones that don't apply themselves, take risks and go get that degree will be the ones at McDonalds....of course they will also be whining for $15 an hour they don't deserve because that Mickey D job isn't and shouldn't be a career goal
No, because your kid's degrees will be a dime a dozen compared to the number of jobs out there that actually pay the ratio of value to earnings. If you think otherwise, you are simply chasing the dragon.
If everyone gets free degrees they will be a dime a dozen
I see how you think it will work but I doubt it would work. You take care of you and your children's education needs and we will do the same, I have no desire to fund you and yours...or anyone else
But you forget that the economic system we live in is symbiotic. Your kid's degrees won't be any good if there are no jobs for them to use them with. Otherwise you are proud of a couple of kids that have engineering degrees and manage at MacDonald's. As a nation we need to have a larger, more educated talent pool to offer companies that otherwise are building their businesses in Asian countries where they have a smarter workforce.
Our children will be in demand due to their degrees, ones that don't apply themselves, take risks and go get that degree will be the ones at McDonalds....of course they will also be whining for $15 an hour they don't deserve because that Mickey D job isn't and shouldn't be a career goal
No, because your kid's degrees will be a dime a dozen compared to the number of jobs out there that actually pay the ratio of value to earnings. If you think otherwise, you are simply chasing the dragon.
If everyone gets free degrees they will be a dime a dozen
No, because there will be more advanced jobs with higher wages. Companies will WANT to move their operations to the united States.
There are other countrues where college is free. France for one. I suppose they think that having highly educated people is good for their society in general. I might have even stayed in school if I thought there was a snowball's chance in hell of my ever being able to afford college.
When you give something away you negate all its value.
Making college "free" for everyone would result in just another 4 years of high school and the people attending would not be any better educated
No, just no. It would help the United States to catch up with the education of the rest of the world. Here are the current standings for the United States as far as education is concerned.
From this article in 2015, the United States ranked 29th out of 76 countries. If education stays like that, we are going to become a shit hole as the rest of the world grows around us.
Interactive map ranks school standards around the world
No. The government just should pick up the tab. Just as it does with police or the military.
No. The government just should pick up the tab.
Why should the government pay for stuff that's free?
The government doesn't have to pay for it, that's why you tax the ones that hide their money off shore or the ones on Wall Street who make millions of dollars betting on companies to fail.
that's why you tax the ones that hide their money off shore
How do you tax hidden money?
or the ones on Wall Street who make millions of dollars betting on companies to fail.
That sounds terrible. Could you explain how you make a bet like that?
I'll take this one. How do you tax money that's hidden? It isn't easy. But it can be done. But there's a simpler solution. Don't let the wealthy get enough money in the first place that they can hide. Also, I was watching a program about the great depression once. There was a super rich guy who had a wife at home that heard about the banking collapse. When her husband got home, she asked him in a worried manner of course about it. He said that he made more money than he ever had before.
Also, there are other financial ways of protecting yourself against some failure other than buying insurance. No doubt in the financial arena, they are basically able to do things that are akin to staking out a life insurance policy on somebody and then having them bumped off.
Don't let the wealthy get enough money in the first place that they can hide.
Kill the greedy kulaks, eh comrade?
There are other countrues [sic] where college is free. .....
No, there are not.
According to the documentary "Sicko," college is free in France. Just as health care is.
Wrong
Wrong about college or health care.
Years ago, and maybe still, they had this thing called a PELL grant. Where if you wre poor, they would pay for your books and things. But it wouldn't have done me any good. Because for one thing, I had to put survival first. You know. Things like eating and paying rent. Also, the only way I could have gotten to the college is to hitchhike. And I wouldn't have cared to do that.
But you forget that the economic system we live in is symbiotic. Your kid's degrees won't be any good if there are no jobs for them to use them with. Otherwise you are proud of a couple of kids that have engineering degrees and manage at MacDonald's. As a nation we need to have a larger, more educated talent pool to offer companies that otherwise are building their businesses in Asian countries where they have a smarter workforce.
Our children will be in demand due to their degrees, ones that don't apply themselves, take risks and go get that degree will be the ones at McDonalds....of course they will also be whining for $15 an hour they don't deserve because that Mickey D job isn't and shouldn't be a career goal
No, because your kid's degrees will be a dime a dozen compared to the number of jobs out there that actually pay the ratio of value to earnings. If you think otherwise, you are simply chasing the dragon.
If everyone gets free degrees they will be a dime a dozen
No, because there will be more advanced jobs with higher wages. Companies will WANT to move their operations to the united States.
Companies will go where they can pay less in wages,benefits, less regulation, better tax shelters, less in healthcare costs, where they don't have to deal with unions, etc
There are other countrues where college is free. France for one. I suppose they think that having highly educated people is good for their society in general. I might have even stayed in school if I thought there was a snowball's chance in hell of my ever being able to afford college.
I agree, colleges should stop collecting tuition.
No. The government just should pick up the tab. Just as it does with police or the military.
You had better be kidding.
I'm not.
Our children will be in demand due to their degrees, ones that don't apply themselves, take risks and go get that degree will be the ones at McDonalds....of course they will also be whining for $15 an hour they don't deserve because that Mickey D job isn't and shouldn't be a career goal
No, because your kid's degrees will be a dime a dozen compared to the number of jobs out there that actually pay the ratio of value to earnings. If you think otherwise, you are simply chasing the dragon.
If everyone gets free degrees they will be a dime a dozen
No, because there will be more advanced jobs with higher wages. Companies will WANT to move their operations to the united States.
Companies will go where they can pay less in wages,benefits, less regulation, better tax shelters, less in healthcare costs, where they don't have to deal with unions, etc
Not the companies who deal in advanced technologies, which is the wave of the future.
Years ago, and maybe still, they had this thing called a PELL grant. Where if you wre poor, they would pay for your books and things. But it wouldn't have done me any good. Because for one thing, I had to put survival first. You know. Things like eating and paying rent. Also, the only way I could have gotten to the college is to hitchhike. And I wouldn't have cared to do that.
In other words, you were unwilling to do what was necessary to advance your level of education. That is, in part, what higher ed is ... a test of your willingness to sacrifice your present for a brighter future.
BTW, Pell Grants are alive and well and still available only to the financially needy.
I will say the same thing about health care as higher education. Change the system so they are really truly affordable, don't play shell games. Look into why colleges or health care providers charge so much and trim the phony baloney charges and the fat, make them both TRULY affordable.There are other countrues where college is free. France for one. I suppose they think that having highly educated people is good for their society in general. I might have even stayed in school if I thought there was a snowball's chance in hell of my ever being able to afford college.
