WinterBorn
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These proposals probably won't be implemented within the next two years, due to the NRA's monetary sway over the current congress. As we move forward towards a saner society, though, this should be the loosest standards for gun laws in the country:
I only read the replies on the first page, but apparently no one has corrected your idiocy. Let me be the first.
1. ---- Rifles cannot be automatic, and must not have any military features such as a pistol grip, a vertical grip, buffer tube, barrel shroud, holosight, detachable magazine, etc. No high powered ammo such as any bullets used by the military should be allowed. Also, clips must only come in five bullets or less.
---- You don't need more than five bullets to shoot a deer. You don't need anti-tank ammo to shoot a deer. Could somebody please tell me why .22 caliber doesn't work for hunting?
---- Trying to overthrow a tyrannical government? You are paranoid and should have your guns confiscated.
The characteristics you listed do nothing to make the rifle more lethal. That concerns the bullet coming out of the barrel. A barrel shroud does not make a gun more lethal. Nor does a holographic sight. But then, with the question you asked about the .22, it is obviously you actually know very little about firearms. Most hunting rounds were used by the military at one time, or are slightly modified versions of military rounds. Banning that is ridiculous.
A .22 (I am guessing you mean a .22 Long Rifle?) will not work for hunting anything but small game because it lacks the velocity and bullet weight to kill big, or even medium game, in a relaibly humane manner. Yes, there have been examples of all sorts of game taken with a .22, but it is not an acceptable round.
2. Shotguns can only shoot two bullets at a time. They cannot use clips to reload, but must be manually reloaded. Also, no military grade calibers are allowed.
--- Why do you need more than two bullets at a time to kill a deer?
--- Trying to overthrow the government? You are paranoid and should lose your gun privileges forever.
If you are discussing shotguns, it shoots shells not bullets. Once again, your knowledge of the topic is shown to be lacking.
Many times duck hunters shoot more than twice, and turkey hunters certainly do. As for trying to overthrow the gov't, you would already loose your gun owning rights. It is called a felony conviction. But that is for actually trying it. Being prepared to stop the gov't from overstepping its bounds is a different matter.
3. A ban on handguns for anybody besides for security guards, police, and military. Also, a complete ban on carrying guns outside the home, unless hunting or at the range.
--- A handgun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill you than a criminal, according to Arthur Kellermann.
--- Trying to be a big man and save the world with your gun while out shopping? You are paranoid and should not be able to own guns.
Since the mid 1990s, most states have gone from a No-Issue or May Issue situation to a Shall Issue one, meaning the state Shal issue a concealed carry permit unless they have a valid reason not to do so. Florida alone has issued over 2 million licenses. The violent crime rate has not gone up, nor has the murder rate. So your attempt at a correlation between handguns/concealed carry and murders is wrong.
I and many like me hunt with handguns.
The claim that a handgun is 43 times more likely to kill someone in the home than a criminal (note-someone in the home, not "you", if you are quoting debunked nonsense, at least be accurate) has be disproved and debunked. It relies on faulty data and completely ignores any use of a firearm that does not result in a death. In other words, if someone holds the criminal at gun point for the police this would not be counted.
4. A mandatory background check, and one month waiting purchase for all gun purchases.
--- It will be a lot harder for the black market to function if illegal buyers are eliminated through background checks and have to wait a month before getting their guns. No more buying a gun out of the trunk of a car in a dark alley.
Have we stopped the illegal importation of drugs? But you someone think we could stop the importation of something that coule be used and then resold? No. The criminals will have guns. To claim otherwise is either ignorance or a lie. I'll let you choose.
5. Nobody under the age of 21 is allowed to handle a firearm. No if, and's, or buts about it. Not while hunting, not while at the range, nothing. Only exceptions are for military recruits.
I will raise my children the way I see fit. My kids all learned to shoot around the age of 10 or 12. It was a controlled situation and they were taught the safety rules first, but they were taught. Only one of my kids wanted to hunt. But for you to try and dismiss that age old tradition because you are afraid and want to appear to be concerned about children is simply not going to fly.
6. A proper interpretation of the second amendment, which talks clearly about well regulated militias, aka the national guard, not any random Joe off the street. And don't give the that bs about the Heller decision. That was an awful decision, like plessy v. ferguson or dredd scott, which can, must, and will be repealed.
An armed population was what the founding fathers had in mind for their militias. A population that could defend itself from both threats from outside and inside our nation. That you dislike the ruling does not make it less solid.