"common Sense Gun Laws"

[WinterBorn]

I have a shotgun. It works fine just as it is. But for inside the home I prefer the precision of a single projectile.

The only problem with that is if your wife who hates guns has to use it. With a shotgun it basically aim at the feet of the intruder and you cant miss hitting him.

I have been married twice. Both of them enjoy shooting. In fact, my first wife is one of the best pistol shots I know.

My current girlfriend has 2 revolvers, both in .357. I have found that women can be good shooters, just as well as men. And no one should have a defensive firearm that they have not fired. If the wife who dislikes guns shoots a sawed off shotgun in a practice setting, she will likely flinch like hell or be unwilling to shoot it again. They kick much worse and teh sound is louder.

yea tell that to Annie Oakley...

Do you think Annie Oakley would be "wife who hates guns"?

 

[WinterBorn]

It isn't policy. It's a right. Duh.

But rights can be changed. Duh.

No they cannot. They can be "amended" but not changed. They cannot take away any of our rights or change them. They are constitutionally guaranteed to every US citizen, regardless of what our crooked politicians would like you to think.

Why cant you have a sawed off shotgun since your right to have one is protected by the constitution? You have no clue about what you are saying.

Hey wait! Aren't you the same guy who thinks the cops are racists? Hilarious!

That was almost convincing as a deflection.

Why cant you have a sawed off shotgun since your right to have one is protected by the constitution? You have no clue about what you are saying do you?

She CAN have a sawed off shotgun.

 

[turtledude]

Throughout these forums I see people calling for the need for "common sense" gun laws. Some have claimed we need to prosecute gun dealers whether they follow the rules or not.

I am curious, what "common sense" gun laws do you think we need to pass and why?

I can see where requiring a safe storage of loaded firearms, in houses where children live or can be reasonably expected to be, might be a good idea. That would cut down on the number of accidental deaths.

What else?

Make people register their guns. One gun per household, there is no need for dozens of guns. No semi automatics either. Lock them away so kids can't reach. Just simple stuff that conservatives hate.

there is no need for anyone to have more than one book

attend more than one religious service

write more than one letter to their senator

BTW you ought to try forcing gun owners to give up all but one gun. after all-who needs more than one stupid anti gun twat?

 

[ChrisL]

But rights can be changed. Duh.

No they cannot. They can be "amended" but not changed. They cannot take away any of our rights or change them. They are constitutionally guaranteed to every US citizen, regardless of what our crooked politicians would like you to think.

Why cant you have a sawed off shotgun since your right to have one is protected by the constitution? You have no clue about what you are saying.

Hey wait! Aren't you the same guy who thinks the cops are racists? Hilarious!

That was almost convincing as a deflection.

Why cant you have a sawed off shotgun since your right to have one is protected by the constitution? You have no clue about what you are saying do you?

She CAN have a sawed off shotgun.

Lol! Probably not in my state!

 

[ChrisL]

Throughout these forums I see people calling for the need for "common sense" gun laws. Some have claimed we need to prosecute gun dealers whether they follow the rules or not.

I am curious, what "common sense" gun laws do you think we need to pass and why?

I can see where requiring a safe storage of loaded firearms, in houses where children live or can be reasonably expected to be, might be a good idea. That would cut down on the number of accidental deaths.

What else?

Make people register their guns. One gun per household, there is no need for dozens of guns. No semi automatics either. Lock them away so kids can't reach. Just simple stuff that conservatives hate.

there is no need for anyone to have more than one book

attend more than one religious service

write more than one letter to their senator

BTW you ought to try forcing gun owners to give up all but one gun. after all-who needs more than one stupid anti gun twat?

I agree except for the "stupid twat" part. I think she is just a young person who is from another country.

 

[turtledude]

Throughout these forums I see people calling for the need for "common sense" gun laws. Some have claimed we need to prosecute gun dealers whether they follow the rules or not.

I am curious, what "common sense" gun laws do you think we need to pass and why?

I can see where requiring a safe storage of loaded firearms, in houses where children live or can be reasonably expected to be, might be a good idea. That would cut down on the number of accidental deaths.

What else?

Make people register their guns. One gun per household, there is no need for dozens of guns. No semi automatics either. Lock them away so kids can't reach. Just simple stuff that conservatives hate.

there is no need for anyone to have more than one book

attend more than one religious service

write more than one letter to their senator

BTW you ought to try forcing gun owners to give up all but one gun. after all-who needs more than one stupid anti gun twat?

I agree except for the "stupid twat" part. I think she is just a young person who is from another country.

inexperienced alien twat then

Thanks

 

[ChrisL]

Throughout these forums I see people calling for the need for "common sense" gun laws. Some have claimed we need to prosecute gun dealers whether they follow the rules or not.

I am curious, what "common sense" gun laws do you think we need to pass and why?

I can see where requiring a safe storage of loaded firearms, in houses where children live or can be reasonably expected to be, might be a good idea. That would cut down on the number of accidental deaths.

What else?

Make people register their guns. One gun per household, there is no need for dozens of guns. No semi automatics either. Lock them away so kids can't reach. Just simple stuff that conservatives hate.

there is no need for anyone to have more than one book

attend more than one religious service

write more than one letter to their senator

BTW you ought to try forcing gun owners to give up all but one gun. after all-who needs more than one stupid anti gun twat?

I agree except for the "stupid twat" part. I think she is just a young person who is from another country.

inexperienced alien twat then

Thanks

You're welcome I guess.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

 

[martybegan]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

Laws do prevent crime, but they only prevent it in those with the 1) moral compass not to break laws 2) those who realize said crime is not worth the punishment. It does nothing to prevent those too willing, to stupid, or too evil from committing the crime.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

Laws do prevent crime, but they only prevent it in those with the 1) moral compass not to break laws 2) those who realize said crime is not worth the punishment. It does nothing to prevent those too willing, to stupid, or too evil from committing the crime.

Exactly my point which is why punishments must be absolute and draconian so as to remove those people who will commit violent crime from society for as long as possible.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?
Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

They know this.
They don't care.
They just want to make it harder and harder and harder for the law abiding to exercise their right to arms.

 

[zeke]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

So that's what people like you want to hang your hat on eh? If we can't stop ALL the illegal activity with laws, then fuck it.
Don't try to stop ANY of the above.

It's just to hard to reduce rapes, murders, child abuse, theft, etc etc. Just to hard, so fuck it, we are RETHUGLIKANS and we ain't trying to do anything to reduce crime.

Other that fantasize about the day you get to shoot some criminal committing a crime against you.

That about your position?

Hey, lets put any person who commits a crime with a gun in prison for life. And tax NOTHING but Republicans to pay for it. Cause you all think it better to waste money jailing them than trying to keep them from getting a gun to commit a gun related crime in the first place.

How much you all wanna pay to keep those people in jail?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

So that's what people like you want to hang your hat on eh? If we can't stop ALL the illegal activity with laws, then fuck it.
Don't try to stop ANY of the above.

It's just to hard to reduce rapes, murders, child abuse, theft, etc etc. Just to hard, so fuck it, we are RETHUGLIKANS and we ain't trying to do anything to reduce crime.

Other that fantasize about the day you get to shoot some criminal committing a crime against you.

That about your position?

Hey, lets put any person who commits a crime with a gun in prison for life. And tax NOTHING but Republicans to pay for it. Cause you all think it better to waste money jailing them than trying to keep them from getting a gun to commit a gun related crime in the first place.

How much you all wanna pay to keep those people in jail?

You can have all the laws you want as long as you realize they do not prevent crime.

And If we changed our attitudes on non violent victimless crimes we would have more than enough prison space and money to keep violent people in jail for the rest of their lives.

But now you tell me how you are going to prevent rape and murder without assigning every person their own personal cop that is.

 

[zeke]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

So that's what people like you want to hang your hat on eh? If we can't stop ALL the illegal activity with laws, then fuck it.
Don't try to stop ANY of the above.

It's just to hard to reduce rapes, murders, child abuse, theft, etc etc. Just to hard, so fuck it, we are RETHUGLIKANS and we ain't trying to do anything to reduce crime.

Other that fantasize about the day you get to shoot some criminal committing a crime against you.

That about your position?

Hey, lets put any person who commits a crime with a gun in prison for life. And tax NOTHING but Republicans to pay for it. Cause you all think it better to waste money jailing them than trying to keep them from getting a gun to commit a gun related crime in the first place.

How much you all wanna pay to keep those people in jail?

You can have all the laws you want as long as you realize they do not prevent crime.

And If we changed our attitudes on non violent victimless crimes we would have more than enough prison space and money to keep violent people in jail for the rest of their lives.

But now you tell me how you are going to prevent rape and murder without assigning every person their own personal cop that is.

I can't figure out what it is that your kind wants.

Are you really dumb enough to think, wish, whatever that ALL crime can be stopped by a law? Really? Come on now. And just because a law won't stop ALL crime, you want what? No laws against criminal behavior?

You just want vigilante justice or what.

How about, seeing as how we lead the world in many categories of crime, we just try hard to REDUCE the amount of crimes being committed against law abiding citizens.

How come that isn't good enough?

Nice dodge on you all wanting to pay for those gun criminals that you want to go to jail for a long time.
You Republicans are the ones that championed putting non violent criminals in jail for many years. Now you all want to rethink that idea eh?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

So that's what people like you want to hang your hat on eh? If we can't stop ALL the illegal activity with laws, then fuck it.
Don't try to stop ANY of the above.

It's just to hard to reduce rapes, murders, child abuse, theft, etc etc. Just to hard, so fuck it, we are RETHUGLIKANS and we ain't trying to do anything to reduce crime.

Other that fantasize about the day you get to shoot some criminal committing a crime against you.

That about your position?

Hey, lets put any person who commits a crime with a gun in prison for life. And tax NOTHING but Republicans to pay for it. Cause you all think it better to waste money jailing them than trying to keep them from getting a gun to commit a gun related crime in the first place.

How much you all wanna pay to keep those people in jail?

You can have all the laws you want as long as you realize they do not prevent crime.

And If we changed our attitudes on non violent victimless crimes we would have more than enough prison space and money to keep violent people in jail for the rest of their lives.

But now you tell me how you are going to prevent rape and murder without assigning every person their own personal cop that is.

I can't figure out what it is that your kind wants.

Are you really dumb enough to think, wish, whatever that ALL crime can be stopped by a law? Really? Come on now. And just because a law won't stop ALL crime, you want what? No laws against criminal behavior?

You just want vigilante justice or what.

How about, seeing as how we lead the world in many categories of crime, we just try hard to REDUCE the amount of crimes being committed against law abiding citizens.

How come that isn't good enough?

Nice dodge on you all wanting to pay for those gun criminals that you want to go to jail for a long time.
You Republicans are the ones that championed putting non violent criminals in jail for many years. Now you all want to rethink that idea eh?

I just said you can have all the laws you want but you have to realize that no law will stop crime.

What is it your kind want?

Do you want pervasive invasive crime prevention tactics like random warrant-less searches and seizures and an overwhelming police and military presence everywhere that is justified in violating any guaranteed right so as to attempt (and fail) to prevent crime?

And I do not see how saying punishment for violent crimes should be draconian and absolute is a call for vigilantism.

That is the same logic that says calling for smaller government is the same as calling for anarchy.

And BTW I am not and have never been a republican. Try and expand your mind beyond your 2 dimensional pigeonhole for once.

 

[zeke]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

So that's what people like you want to hang your hat on eh? If we can't stop ALL the illegal activity with laws, then fuck it.
Don't try to stop ANY of the above.

It's just to hard to reduce rapes, murders, child abuse, theft, etc etc. Just to hard, so fuck it, we are RETHUGLIKANS and we ain't trying to do anything to reduce crime.

Other that fantasize about the day you get to shoot some criminal committing a crime against you.

That about your position?

Hey, lets put any person who commits a crime with a gun in prison for life. And tax NOTHING but Republicans to pay for it. Cause you all think it better to waste money jailing them than trying to keep them from getting a gun to commit a gun related crime in the first place.

How much you all wanna pay to keep those people in jail?

You can have all the laws you want as long as you realize they do not prevent crime.

And If we changed our attitudes on non violent victimless crimes we would have more than enough prison space and money to keep violent people in jail for the rest of their lives.

But now you tell me how you are going to prevent rape and murder without assigning every person their own personal cop that is.

I can't figure out what it is that your kind wants.

Are you really dumb enough to think, wish, whatever that ALL crime can be stopped by a law? Really? Come on now. And just because a law won't stop ALL crime, you want what? No laws against criminal behavior?

You just want vigilante justice or what.

How about, seeing as how we lead the world in many categories of crime, we just try hard to REDUCE the amount of crimes being committed against law abiding citizens.

How come that isn't good enough?

Nice dodge on you all wanting to pay for those gun criminals that you want to go to jail for a long time.
You Republicans are the ones that championed putting non violent criminals in jail for many years. Now you all want to rethink that idea eh?

I just said you can have all the laws you want but you have to realize that no law will stop crime.

What is it your kind want?

Do you want pervasive invasive crime prevention tactics like random warrant-less searches and seizures and an overwhelming police and military presence everywhere that is justified in violating any guaranteed right so as to attempt (and fail) to prevent crime?

And I do not see how saying punishment for violent crimes should be draconian and absolute is a call for vigilantism.

That is the same logic that says calling for smaller government is the same as calling for anarchy.

And BTW I am not and have never been a republican. Try and expand your mind beyond your 2 dimensional pigeonhole for once.

Did I say what you wrote? Nah.
What I want is some reasonableness to the conversation about how to reduce crimes committed with a gun and reduce the number of senseless deaths brought about by irresponsible gun ownership.

Surely you can't oppose that goal? Why sure you could. And I expect you will. Cause it's just to hard to figure this out.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

So that's what people like you want to hang your hat on eh? If we can't stop ALL the illegal activity with laws, then fuck it.
Don't try to stop ANY of the above.

It's just to hard to reduce rapes, murders, child abuse, theft, etc etc. Just to hard, so fuck it, we are RETHUGLIKANS and we ain't trying to do anything to reduce crime.

Other that fantasize about the day you get to shoot some criminal committing a crime against you.

That about your position?

Hey, lets put any person who commits a crime with a gun in prison for life. And tax NOTHING but Republicans to pay for it. Cause you all think it better to waste money jailing them than trying to keep them from getting a gun to commit a gun related crime in the first place.

How much you all wanna pay to keep those people in jail?

You can have all the laws you want as long as you realize they do not prevent crime.

And If we changed our attitudes on non violent victimless crimes we would have more than enough prison space and money to keep violent people in jail for the rest of their lives.

But now you tell me how you are going to prevent rape and murder without assigning every person their own personal cop that is.

I can't figure out what it is that your kind wants.

Are you really dumb enough to think, wish, whatever that ALL crime can be stopped by a law? Really? Come on now. And just because a law won't stop ALL crime, you want what? No laws against criminal behavior?

You just want vigilante justice or what.

How about, seeing as how we lead the world in many categories of crime, we just try hard to REDUCE the amount of crimes being committed against law abiding citizens.

How come that isn't good enough?

Nice dodge on you all wanting to pay for those gun criminals that you want to go to jail for a long time.
You Republicans are the ones that championed putting non violent criminals in jail for many years. Now you all want to rethink that idea eh?

Are you really dumb enough to think, wish, whatever that ALL crime can be stopped by a law? Really? Come on now. And just because a law won't stop ALL crime, you want what? No laws against criminal behavior?

sadly many "common sense" gun laws do not stop any crime

yet the left wants to see more laws of the same nature

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

So that's what people like you want to hang your hat on eh? If we can't stop ALL the illegal activity with laws, then fuck it.
Don't try to stop ANY of the above.

It's just to hard to reduce rapes, murders, child abuse, theft, etc etc. Just to hard, so fuck it, we are RETHUGLIKANS and we ain't trying to do anything to reduce crime.

Other that fantasize about the day you get to shoot some criminal committing a crime against you.

That about your position?

Hey, lets put any person who commits a crime with a gun in prison for life. And tax NOTHING but Republicans to pay for it. Cause you all think it better to waste money jailing them than trying to keep them from getting a gun to commit a gun related crime in the first place.

How much you all wanna pay to keep those people in jail?

You can have all the laws you want as long as you realize they do not prevent crime.

And If we changed our attitudes on non violent victimless crimes we would have more than enough prison space and money to keep violent people in jail for the rest of their lives.

But now you tell me how you are going to prevent rape and murder without assigning every person their own personal cop that is.

I can't figure out what it is that your kind wants.

Are you really dumb enough to think, wish, whatever that ALL crime can be stopped by a law? Really? Come on now. And just because a law won't stop ALL crime, you want what? No laws against criminal behavior?

You just want vigilante justice or what.

How about, seeing as how we lead the world in many categories of crime, we just try hard to REDUCE the amount of crimes being committed against law abiding citizens.

How come that isn't good enough?

Nice dodge on you all wanting to pay for those gun criminals that you want to go to jail for a long time.
You Republicans are the ones that championed putting non violent criminals in jail for many years. Now you all want to rethink that idea eh?

I just said you can have all the laws you want but you have to realize that no law will stop crime.

What is it your kind want?

Do you want pervasive invasive crime prevention tactics like random warrant-less searches and seizures and an overwhelming police and military presence everywhere that is justified in violating any guaranteed right so as to attempt (and fail) to prevent crime?

And I do not see how saying punishment for violent crimes should be draconian and absolute is a call for vigilantism.

That is the same logic that says calling for smaller government is the same as calling for anarchy.

And BTW I am not and have never been a republican. Try and expand your mind beyond your 2 dimensional pigeonhole for once.

Did I say what you wrote? Nah.
What I want is some reasonableness to the conversation about how to reduce crimes committed with a gun and reduce the number of senseless deaths brought about by irresponsible gun ownership.

Surely you can't oppose that goal? Why sure you could. And I expect you will. Cause it's just to hard to figure this out.

You can't legislate responsibility.

All you can do is punish those who commit violent crime and remove them from society.

The punishment is the deterrent for everyone but the worst violent criminal.

 

[ChrisL]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

Laws do prevent crime, but they only prevent it in those with the 1) moral compass not to break laws 2) those who realize said crime is not worth the punishment. It does nothing to prevent those too willing, to stupid, or too evil from committing the crime.

Exactly my point which is why punishments must be absolute and draconian so as to remove those people who will commit violent crime from society for as long as possible.

I agree, but isn't that what we do now? I always assumed that a lot of criminals just assume they aren't going to get caught, because they're stupid.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do any of you people really think that laws prevent crime?

Have drug laws prevented drug use?
Have drunk driving laws stopped people from driving drunk?
Do laws against assault prevent assault?
Theft?
Rape?
Child abuse?
Murder?

Etc ad nauseum?

Laws do not prevent crime from happening all they do is define the punishment after the fact.

If my assertion is true (and it is) then punishment for crimes is the best way to deal with crime.

The only common sense thing to do is to make punishments for gun and any violent crimes absolute and draconian.

Laws do prevent crime, but they only prevent it in those with the 1) moral compass not to break laws 2) those who realize said crime is not worth the punishment. It does nothing to prevent those too willing, to stupid, or too evil from committing the crime.

Exactly my point which is why punishments must be absolute and draconian so as to remove those people who will commit violent crime from society for as long as possible.

I agree, but isn't that what we do now? I always assumed that a lot of criminals just assume they aren't going to get caught, because they're stupid.

No we really do not have absolute and draconian punishments.

A murderer can still be released from prison.

I've said it before, if you want to reduce violent gun crime then impose a life sentence without parole to anyone committing a crime with a gun.