Condi Rice says No to possible VP nod fromTrump

[BIG YANK BAL 1976]

Want to save the GOP?

We dump Trump at the convention and go with Kasich who can still beat Hillary.

 

[BIG YANK BAL 1976]

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I really doubt that. He channeled anger that has been simmering in middle america. Bernie did the same thing but he ran into a much more polished party machine then Trump did.

They are angry because their interests have not been represented for a long time.

By speaking to their interests Trump is showing his support for THEM.

"Channeling anger"?


Maybe. Or maybe they've noticed that the same people who have nothing but contempt for Trump and the same people that have nothing but contempt for them.

Maybe their have noticed how similar the lies the libs says about Trump are to the lies the libs say about them.


Anger is the rational response to being shit on for long periods of time, by assholes.

I agree totally. The problem is the angry might not be enough to stop President Clinton II from being in a position to screw with things from 2nd amendment rights to religious fr

I really doubt that. He channeled anger that has been simmering in middle america. Bernie did the same thing but he ran into a much more polished party machine then Trump did.

They are angry because their interests have not been represented for a long time.

By speaking to their interests Trump is showing his support for THEM.

"Channeling anger"?


Maybe. Or maybe they've noticed that the same people who have nothing but contempt for Trump and the same people that have nothing but contempt for them.

Maybe their have noticed how similar the lies the libs says about Trump are to the lies the libs say about them.


Anger is the rational response to being shit on for long periods of time, by assholes.

They have every right to be angry, we have been getting 2 flavors of the same bullshit for a few decades now. Hell, Clinton I was more of a fiscal conservative than any of the last 2, and future 2.

Then why did Republicans lie and call him a socialist? Hard to take conservatives serious when 1 minute Clinton's a lib the next he's in bed with wallstreet

Some Republicans call everyone a socialist. Bernie is actually a socialist, Obama and Hillary are progressive statists, and Bill was a progressive statist with a smidge of conservative economic sense.

He was a triangulators that's for sure. The Clinton's give in too much to the GOP it's one of the things I don't love about her. It's why we went with Obama over hillary. But I liked the clintons

I also voted for Obama over Hillary in 2008, ( i didnt like her vote to invade Iraq) and looking back , she WOULD HAVE WON, but those superdelegates ditched her for Obamafor reasons we will never know, she would have beaten McCain silly...

That being said if Hillary is elected, I fully believe she will be a better President than Obama..

 

[JakeStarkey]

Of course we can dump him.

That's what for we have a rules committee.

 

[JimH52]

The celebrity effect gave him wins, however I don't see that carrying over enough into the general election, especially once the Dems really start laying into him.

And anyone they put in his place has the advantage of not being under the gun for the past 2-3 months.

The fact you won't vote for him proves the point.

The Celebrity Effect got him a hearing.

HIs polices and communication skills are what fueled his wins.

I really doubt that. He channeled anger that has been simmering in middle america. Bernie did the same thing but he ran into a much more polished party machine then Trump did.

They are angry because their interests have not been represented for a long time.

By speaking to their interests Trump is showing his support for THEM.

"Channeling anger"?


Maybe. Or maybe they've noticed that the same people who have nothing but contempt for Trump and the same people that have nothing but contempt for them.

Maybe their have noticed how similar the lies the libs says about Trump are to the lies the libs say about them.


Anger is the rational response to being shit on for long periods of time, by assholes.

Anger CANNOT win the General, but it will get a lot of crazies out.

Your characterization of the Working Class Whites and Middle Class Whites as "crazies" reflects the contempt I was referring to before, and is why Trump will win that demographic by large margin.

I hardly ever Ignore anyone. But honestly, your posts have convinced me that even attempting to take you seriously is out of the question. You seem to fabricate facts which run opposite to reality. Yet, I don't want to take away the feelings of excitement that thrills you when you post them, I will continue to see your name in my Alerts and realize that you are typing another fictitious day dream. They are not really worth my time to read anymore. So.....

GO DONALD!​

 

[martybegan]

And tr

T

I agree totally. The problem is the angry might not be enough to stop President Clinton II from being in a position to screw with things from 2nd amendment rights to religious fr
They have every right to be angry, we have been getting 2 flavors of the same bullshit for a few decades now. Hell, Clinton I was more of a fiscal conservative than any of the last 2, and future 2.

Then why did Republicans lie and call him a socialist? Hard to take conservatives serious when 1 minute Clinton's a lib the next he's in bed with wallstreet

Some Republicans call everyone a socialist. Bernie is actually a socialist, Obama and Hillary are progressive statists, and Bill was a progressive statist with a smidge of conservative economic sense.

He was a triangulators that's for sure. The Clinton's give in too much to the GOP it's one of the things I don't love about her. It's why we went with Obama over hillary. But I liked the clintons

Clinton I was president during my college years, and he was moderated by a Republican Congress (after the AW Ban disaster), but right now using precedent from Bush II and Obama the president wields too much power by way of federal agencies that expand their own power without going back to congress.

And Hillary to me is far more of a true blue lefty than Bill was or is.

And trumps your answer? You better dump him at the convention

I'm actually hoping for that. I was flopping between Jindal and Walker in the beginning, settled on Cruz at the end.

 

[martybegan]

And tr

T
Then why did Republicans lie and call him a socialist? Hard to take conservatives serious when 1 minute Clinton's a lib the next he's in bed with wallstreet

Some Republicans call everyone a socialist. Bernie is actually a socialist, Obama and Hillary are progressive statists, and Bill was a progressive statist with a smidge of conservative economic sense.

He was a triangulators that's for sure. The Clinton's give in too much to the GOP it's one of the things I don't love about her. It's why we went with Obama over hillary. But I liked the clintons

Clinton I was president during my college years, and he was moderated by a Republican Congress (after the AW Ban disaster), but right now using precedent from Bush II and Obama the president wields too much power by way of federal agencies that expand their own power without going back to congress.

And Hillary to me is far more of a true blue lefty than Bill was or is.

And trumps your answer? You better dump him at the convention

They can't just dump him, sorry he got the required amount of delegates, so all they can basically do is have regrets and buyers remorse, and prepare for a nasty hangover on November 9, the man isn't going anywhere..

He beat roughly 20 other people to win the whole enchilada, And to be honest with you none of those 20 other people can beat Clinton, she's just got too many weapons, money, support staff, and demographics, to lose..

They actually can, primaries and conventions don't really follow the same rules as a regular election.

 

[JimH52]

And tr

T
Then why did Republicans lie and call him a socialist? Hard to take conservatives serious when 1 minute Clinton's a lib the next he's in bed with wallstreet

Some Republicans call everyone a socialist. Bernie is actually a socialist, Obama and Hillary are progressive statists, and Bill was a progressive statist with a smidge of conservative economic sense.

He was a triangulators that's for sure. The Clinton's give in too much to the GOP it's one of the things I don't love about her. It's why we went with Obama over hillary. But I liked the clintons

Clinton I was president during my college years, and he was moderated by a Republican Congress (after the AW Ban disaster), but right now using precedent from Bush II and Obama the president wields too much power by way of federal agencies that expand their own power without going back to congress.

And Hillary to me is far more of a true blue lefty than Bill was or is.

And trumps your answer? You better dump him at the convention

I'm actually hoping for that. I was flopping between Jindal and Walker in the beginning, settled on Cruz at the end.

'
Dump Trump and his cult sits out the election. The GOP is in a bad spot.

 

[sealybobo]

And tr

T
Then why did Republicans lie and call him a socialist? Hard to take conservatives serious when 1 minute Clinton's a lib the next he's in bed with wallstreet

Some Republicans call everyone a socialist. Bernie is actually a socialist, Obama and Hillary are progressive statists, and Bill was a progressive statist with a smidge of conservative economic sense.

He was a triangulators that's for sure. The Clinton's give in too much to the GOP it's one of the things I don't love about her. It's why we went with Obama over hillary. But I liked the clintons

Clinton I was president during my college years, and he was moderated by a Republican Congress (after the AW Ban disaster), but right now using precedent from Bush II and Obama the president wields too much power by way of federal agencies that expand their own power without going back to congress.

And Hillary to me is far more of a true blue lefty than Bill was or is.

And trumps your answer? You better dump him at the convention

I'm actually hoping for that. I was flopping between Jindal and Walker in the beginning, settled on Cruz at the end.

You settled on crazy then

 

[Correll]

We need them to win, and we can get them, if we can successfully challenge the Left's narrative.

And I agree about Immigration being more important than trade, but both are important and together they are a powerful draw for working class white dems.

Because your candidate can't control his mouth, you can't get the votes you need. This is generational as much as anything else: the millennials and younger genx'rs realize how false is your narratie.

If that was true, you and your lib media allies would not spend so much time lying.

Bullshit, and the RepubliCON, Conservative fox news assholes never lie huh?? yea right

Want to cut and paste the complete quote where Trump said all Mexicans are racist?

Didn't think so.

What difference does that make Mexicans hate him and are not voting for him anyways...

He's probably gonna lose California (a state he thinks he has a chance)by 20-30 points!! LOL,....

The false accusation of racism, is scaring off millions of voters, white AND otherwise, that if they looked at Trump's policies would like them.

That is one of the reasons the Left makes so many False Accusation of Racism.

 

[Kristian]

I was flopping between Jindal and Walker in the beginning, settled on Cruz at the end.

Real good your hopes on from early begin then in finsih lineup a Canada born.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Saw the headline; didn't care. I already knew she didn't resonate with the Trump message. I think Romney made a mistake picking Ryan over her though.

 

[mudwhistle]

The party will not ditch him, and deny him the nomination simply because he passed the 1237 mark, how are they going to steal it from him??

How is he unelectable when he beat 13 other people running against him, and had about roughly 13 Million + votes in the primaries..

If they deny, him his supporters will burn down Cleveland, I don't think the party wants to go down that road.

Who will they put in his place, Hillary will kill Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich Or anyone they wanna stick in his place..

I'm not voting for the asshole, but it's a little late in the game for substitution.

The celebrity effect gave him wins, however I don't see that carrying over enough into the general election, especially once the Dems really start laying into him.

And anyone they put in his place has the advantage of not being under the gun for the past 2-3 months.

The fact you won't vote for him proves the point.

The Celebrity Effect got him a hearing.

HIs polices and communication skills are what fueled his wins.

I really doubt that. He channeled anger that has been simmering in middle america. Bernie did the same thing but he ran into a much more polished party machine then Trump did.

They are angry because their interests have not been represented for a long time.

By speaking to their interests Trump is showing his support for THEM.

"Channeling anger"?


Maybe. Or maybe they've noticed that the same people who have nothing but contempt for Trump and the same people that have nothing but contempt for them.

Maybe their have noticed how similar the lies the libs says about Trump are to the lies the libs say about them.


Anger is the rational response to being shit on for long periods of time, by assholes.

This is what happens when Republicans convince their dumb constituents that all governments are evil.

Rather than appeal to common sense Republicans pray on stupidity

Replace R with a D and you'd be correct. Democrats pray on stupidity, and misinformation is their greatest tool in maintaining their power.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Crazy Ted may have a chance now.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Crazy Ted may have a chance now.

Lyin' Ted

 

[martybegan]

And tr

Some Republicans call everyone a socialist. Bernie is actually a socialist, Obama and Hillary are progressive statists, and Bill was a progressive statist with a smidge of conservative economic sense.

He was a triangulators that's for sure. The Clinton's give in too much to the GOP it's one of the things I don't love about her. It's why we went with Obama over hillary. But I liked the clintons

Clinton I was president during my college years, and he was moderated by a Republican Congress (after the AW Ban disaster), but right now using precedent from Bush II and Obama the president wields too much power by way of federal agencies that expand their own power without going back to congress.

And Hillary to me is far more of a true blue lefty than Bill was or is.

And trumps your answer? You better dump him at the convention

I'm actually hoping for that. I was flopping between Jindal and Walker in the beginning, settled on Cruz at the end.

'
Dump Trump and his cult sits out the election. The GOP is in a bad spot.

Maybe, maybe not. The masses might be rallied enough to go against Hillary if the Republicans pick the right person.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Because your candidate can't control his mouth, you can't get the votes you need. This is generational as much as anything else: the millennials and younger genx'rs realize how false is your narratie.

If that was true, you and your lib media allies would not spend so much time lying.

Bullshit, and the RepubliCON, Conservative fox news assholes never lie huh?? yea right

Want to cut and paste the complete quote where Trump said all Mexicans are racist?

Didn't think so.

What difference does that make Mexicans hate him and are not voting for him anyways...

He's probably gonna lose California (a state he thinks he has a chance)by 20-30 points!! LOL,....

The false accusation of racism, is scaring off millions of voters, white AND otherwise, that if they looked at Trump's policies would like them.

That is one of the reasons the Left makes so many False Accusation of Racism.

Correll engages in the age old racist tactic of saying he is not a racist but his enemies make false accusations against his racism. Correll's posting is typical of the faux defense by the racists of the far right.

Trump is losing the election because Americans have awoken to the danger he is truly to the country.

 

[martybegan]

And tr

Some Republicans call everyone a socialist. Bernie is actually a socialist, Obama and Hillary are progressive statists, and Bill was a progressive statist with a smidge of conservative economic sense.

He was a triangulators that's for sure. The Clinton's give in too much to the GOP it's one of the things I don't love about her. It's why we went with Obama over hillary. But I liked the clintons

Clinton I was president during my college years, and he was moderated by a Republican Congress (after the AW Ban disaster), but right now using precedent from Bush II and Obama the president wields too much power by way of federal agencies that expand their own power without going back to congress.

And Hillary to me is far more of a true blue lefty than Bill was or is.

And trumps your answer? You better dump him at the convention

I'm actually hoping for that. I was flopping between Jindal and Walker in the beginning, settled on Cruz at the end.

You settled on crazy then

I don't see him as crazy, he's religious.

 

[Correll]

There have been a few black Republican congressmen, but when such a high percentage of a population is in the other party, you wouldn't expect to see many.


And the Colin Powell polls of the 90s, showed that Republicans would be happy to support a black President, if he wasn't Obama.

Mention his name now and see shudders from the GOP RWers...

Which is based on the fact that he has since betrayed us.

My point about those polls still stands.

He was black back in the 90s and the Republican voters supported him.

Which disproves sealy's claim that white gop voters would not vote for a black guy.

They supported him or bush? Because as soon as he didn't support bush Republicans stopped supporting him.

And what election did Powell win to prove republicans voters will support a black? What did Herman Cain or Ben carson win? Tokens.

Is there a black Republican governor? Has there ever been?

THey supported Powell for the Presidency long after Bush was retired.

He refused to run. He didn't WANT to be President.

But the polls verified that Republicans, white republican voters, would have strongly supported POwell, if he had accepted that support.

Pretending that that didn't happen because he refused to run is disingenuous.


Carson? Cain? Tokens?

Tokens are when jobs they don't deserve are given to people because of skin color or some such "identity".


Cain and Carson both ran in large pacts and gathered various levels of support from, in their particular cases, the Conservative wing of the GOP.

They lose against fierce competition.

IMO, Cain was robbed, mostly be the lying Lefty press.


BUT, that is not what "tokens" are.

Who are your black Republican future stars? Why don't Cain and carson try to win office they are qualified for like mayor?

That's the problem with you guys. You think bush bachmann Cain carson fiorino trump are qualified.

1. You didn't address my point that the polls showed very strong support for Powell from Republican voters.

2. You didn't address my point that Cain and Carson were NOT tokens.

3. Who are future black Republican Stars? I have no idea even if there are any right now. Black republicans are unfortunately a small population. Black republicans tend to be social conservative and hard liners. Those have never been nurtured and celebrated by the Country Club Republicans in charge of the party. So you are looking for bright stars iN small segment of a small segment of a small percentage of the party. Thus the lack of "future black stars" is not a reflection on Republican voters.

4.a. Not qualified? Are you referring to the inexperience of Cain and Carson? That's a fair issue. But we on the Right were not getting what we wanted from the more mainstream candidates. You see the same mechanism at work with Trump's rise.

4b NOt qualified? Are you referring to the fact you don't agree with Bachmann? You don't have to. Republican voters do.

 

[Unkotare]

Because your candidate can't control his mouth, you can't get the votes you need. This is generational as much as anything else: the millennials and younger genx'rs realize how false is your narratie.

If that was true, you and your lib media allies would not spend so much time lying.

Bullshit, and the RepubliCON, Conservative fox news assholes never lie huh?? yea right

Want to cut and paste the complete quote where Trump said all Mexicans are racist?

Didn't think so.

What difference does that make Mexicans hate him and are not voting for him anyways...

He's probably gonna lose California (a state he thinks he has a chance)by 20-30 points!! LOL,....

The false accusation of racism, is scaring off millions of voters...

Proof?

 

[JakeStarkey]

None of that means anything, Correll.

Proof? Correll does not do proof.

 

[Correll]

Mention his name now and see shudders from the GOP RWers...

Which is based on the fact that he has since betrayed us.

My point about those polls still stands.

He was black back in the 90s and the Republican voters supported him.

Which disproves sealy's claim that white gop voters would not vote for a black guy.

He was never VOTED into anything. Yes, they supported him, but that is often very different from voting for him.

They supported bush not Powell.

Fact is they'd vote for ANYONE over hillary so doesn't really matter. But the party knows many whites would stay home if they nominated a black. They aren't ready yes. That goes for women too.

Nothing supports that except all the lies you have been told by the lib press.

The exit polls at the time showed Powell beating Bill Clinton by a comfortable margin.

Same polls showed Romney winning

No, they didn't.

The Gold Standard of Polls are Exit polls, taken from people who have just voted, so you don't get ANY non voters in the mix, nor get an answer from ANYONE that would have changed their mind by the actual voting time.

Powell crushed Clinton in the Exit polls, 50 to 38%. Also, Powell would have won the race because of the support of white voters — Bill Clinton outpolled him 2 to 1 among the blacks surveyed.

No exit poll showed Romney winning.

AND regardless, an error of 4 or 5% can make a poll WRONG in who wins an election, but would still show that the vast majority of a party would have supported it's candidate.


The idea that Republicans won't vote for blacks is a lie you have been told, over and over and over again.



The GOP is not racist. This is good news. Why are you so resistant to it?

It means that the differences in policy ARE ACTUAL differences in policy, that could be worked out, not an unending battle between GOOD and EVUL.