Cons say the government doesn't create jobs....

[TooTall]

...Cons say Obama doesn't deserve credit for cutting unemployment in have, because the government can't create jobs.

But now Jeb Bush is promising to create 19 million jobs. And Trump is promising to create the most jobs of any previous POTUS.

Hypocrisy IS the GOP.

You are as usual, confused.

The government does NOT create jobs and both Bush and Trump would tell you that. If you had a functioning brain cell to your name, you'd know what they meant but you are an idiot so it has to be explained to you.

What they mean is to create an environment where private businesses can create jobs. Like reducing taxes, giving tax incentives, cutting regulations, and basically getting the goverent out if the way.

Another ignorant left wing nut thread killed. My job is done here.

Who created the millions of jobs in the defense department? Including the men and women in uniform?

Who created public school teaching and non-teaching jobs?

Who created the jobs in law enforcement?

Who created the jobs for every business that has business with the government?

It wasn't Obama.

 

[rightwinger]

200 years of court interpretation says you are wrong

.

Well... I guess we should round up all black people and put them back in shackles again because SCOTUS ruled they were property and held that decision until we passed a Constitutional amendment to override it. Then they ruled segregation and Jim Crow was Constitutional until Congress passed an Act to overturn that. So... IF the SCOTUS is the final decider... we need to enslave the blacks again, right?

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

Again... The SCOTUS ruling was that slaves are property and blacks can be segregated. IF, as you argue, the Court decides what the Constitution means... we need to enslave black again because this was their ruling. We had no right to override that and it remains the court's decision on the matter.

Also, I notice you have not addressed the previous argument that Federal government can "do what needs doing" under the general welfare clause. I assume you read what Madison had to say on the subject, so was Madison wrong? Do you have some kind of explanation for how the Constitution grants government unlimited power under "general welfare" but then turns around and specifies enumerated powers?

Sorry libertarian......but The Federalist Papers are not law
So much so that they were anonymously published

Madison had to edit and re-edit the constitution to satisfy all signatories. What is in there is the law.....not what Madison may have wanted

The courts decide....not the Federalist Papers

The General Welfare clause is not permission for the gov't to do anything and everything. If that were the case the Constitution would not have spelled out precisely what Congress' powers are.

Evidently, the courts disagree with you.
It hasn't been interpreted your way.....ever

 

[The Rabbi]

Well... I guess we should round up all black people and put them back in shackles again because SCOTUS ruled they were property and held that decision until we passed a Constitutional amendment to override it. Then they ruled segregation and Jim Crow was Constitutional until Congress passed an Act to overturn that. So... IF the SCOTUS is the final decider... we need to enslave the blacks again, right?

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

Again... The SCOTUS ruling was that slaves are property and blacks can be segregated. IF, as you argue, the Court decides what the Constitution means... we need to enslave black again because this was their ruling. We had no right to override that and it remains the court's decision on the matter.

Also, I notice you have not addressed the previous argument that Federal government can "do what needs doing" under the general welfare clause. I assume you read what Madison had to say on the subject, so was Madison wrong? Do you have some kind of explanation for how the Constitution grants government unlimited power under "general welfare" but then turns around and specifies enumerated powers?

Sorry libertarian......but The Federalist Papers are not law
So much so that they were anonymously published

Madison had to edit and re-edit the constitution to satisfy all signatories. What is in there is the law.....not what Madison may have wanted

The courts decide....not the Federalist Papers

The General Welfare clause is not permission for the gov't to do anything and everything. If that were the case the Constitution would not have spelled out precisely what Congress' powers are.

Evidently, the courts disagree with you.
It hasn't been interpreted your way.....ever

Wrong.
The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. That is basic ConLaw doctrine and every Court has recognized that.

 

[rightwinger]

200 years of court interpretation says you are wrong

.

Well... I guess we should round up all black people and put them back in shackles again because SCOTUS ruled they were property and held that decision until we passed a Constitutional amendment to override it. Then they ruled segregation and Jim Crow was Constitutional until Congress passed an Act to overturn that. So... IF the SCOTUS is the final decider... we need to enslave the blacks again, right?

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

I thought you said liberals worship communism
Two opposite ends of the political spectrum yet you seem to claim Liberals are all of them

 

[The Rabbi]

200 years of court interpretation says you are wrong

.

Well... I guess we should round up all black people and put them back in shackles again because SCOTUS ruled they were property and held that decision until we passed a Constitutional amendment to override it. Then they ruled segregation and Jim Crow was Constitutional until Congress passed an Act to overturn that. So... IF the SCOTUS is the final decider... we need to enslave the blacks again, right?

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

I thought you said liberals worship communism
Two opposite ends of the political spectrum yet you seem to claim Liberals are all of them

Communism and fascism are not opposite ends. They are the same. Hitler preached National Socialism. Stalin preached International Socialism.

 

[rightwinger]

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

Again... The SCOTUS ruling was that slaves are property and blacks can be segregated. IF, as you argue, the Court decides what the Constitution means... we need to enslave black again because this was their ruling. We had no right to override that and it remains the court's decision on the matter.

Also, I notice you have not addressed the previous argument that Federal government can "do what needs doing" under the general welfare clause. I assume you read what Madison had to say on the subject, so was Madison wrong? Do you have some kind of explanation for how the Constitution grants government unlimited power under "general welfare" but then turns around and specifies enumerated powers?

Sorry libertarian......but The Federalist Papers are not law
So much so that they were anonymously published

Madison had to edit and re-edit the constitution to satisfy all signatories. What is in there is the law.....not what Madison may have wanted

The courts decide....not the Federalist Papers

The General Welfare clause is not permission for the gov't to do anything and everything. If that were the case the Constitution would not have spelled out precisely what Congress' powers are.

Evidently, the courts disagree with you.
It hasn't been interpreted your way.....ever

Wrong.
The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. That is basic ConLaw doctrine and every Court has recognized that.

The courts provide wide latitude on those powers
Only asshole libertarians look at the Constitution like a fundamentalist looks at the bible

 

[Redfish]

Well... I guess we should round up all black people and put them back in shackles again because SCOTUS ruled they were property and held that decision until we passed a Constitutional amendment to override it. Then they ruled segregation and Jim Crow was Constitutional until Congress passed an Act to overturn that. So... IF the SCOTUS is the final decider... we need to enslave the blacks again, right?

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

every day I am more convinced that liberalism is a mental disease. No sane person could think they way they do.

Liberals founded this country and are responsible for every major advance.

ALERT, ALERT, ALERT. WE HAVE THE FIRST DAILY CANDIDATE FOR DUMB POST OF THE DAY. POSTED BY ONE OF OUR DUMBEST POSTERS.

CONGRATULATIONS RW, IT IS DOUBTFUL THAT ANY OF YOUR FELLOW LIBS WILL OUTDO YOU TODAY, BUT THE DAY IS YOUNG,

BTW, DID YOU RETIRE YOUR SOCK JAKE SNARKEY?

 

[rightwinger]

Well... I guess we should round up all black people and put them back in shackles again because SCOTUS ruled they were property and held that decision until we passed a Constitutional amendment to override it. Then they ruled segregation and Jim Crow was Constitutional until Congress passed an Act to overturn that. So... IF the SCOTUS is the final decider... we need to enslave the blacks again, right?

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

I thought you said liberals worship communism
Two opposite ends of the political spectrum yet you seem to claim Liberals are all of them

Communism and fascism are not opposite ends. They are the same. Hitler preached National Socialism. Stalin preached International Socialism.

Hitler was a fascist and was bitter enemies with the communists. Politically they are at opposite sides of the spectrum

 

[The Rabbi]

Again... The SCOTUS ruling was that slaves are property and blacks can be segregated. IF, as you argue, the Court decides what the Constitution means... we need to enslave black again because this was their ruling. We had no right to override that and it remains the court's decision on the matter.

Also, I notice you have not addressed the previous argument that Federal government can "do what needs doing" under the general welfare clause. I assume you read what Madison had to say on the subject, so was Madison wrong? Do you have some kind of explanation for how the Constitution grants government unlimited power under "general welfare" but then turns around and specifies enumerated powers?

Sorry libertarian......but The Federalist Papers are not law
So much so that they were anonymously published

Madison had to edit and re-edit the constitution to satisfy all signatories. What is in there is the law.....not what Madison may have wanted

The courts decide....not the Federalist Papers

The General Welfare clause is not permission for the gov't to do anything and everything. If that were the case the Constitution would not have spelled out precisely what Congress' powers are.

Evidently, the courts disagree with you.
It hasn't been interpreted your way.....ever

Wrong.
The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. That is basic ConLaw doctrine and every Court has recognized that.

The courts provide wide latitude on those powers
Only asshole libertarians look at the Constitution like a fundamentalist looks at the bible

You acknowledgement of defeat on this issue is noted and accepted.
next.

 

[The Rabbi]

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

I thought you said liberals worship communism
Two opposite ends of the political spectrum yet you seem to claim Liberals are all of them

Communism and fascism are not opposite ends. They are the same. Hitler preached National Socialism. Stalin preached International Socialism.

Hitler was a fascist and was bitter enemies with the communists. Politically they are at opposite sides of the spectrum

They were bitter enemies because they were so similar. But ideology was not the basis of their enmity (they signed a peace treaty, after all). Political and practical considerations were.

 

[Redfish]

Sorry libertarian......but The Federalist Papers are not law
So much so that they were anonymously published

Madison had to edit and re-edit the constitution to satisfy all signatories. What is in there is the law.....not what Madison may have wanted

The courts decide....not the Federalist Papers

The General Welfare clause is not permission for the gov't to do anything and everything. If that were the case the Constitution would not have spelled out precisely what Congress' powers are.

Evidently, the courts disagree with you.
It hasn't been interpreted your way.....ever

Wrong.
The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. That is basic ConLaw doctrine and every Court has recognized that.

The courts provide wide latitude on those powers
Only asshole libertarians look at the Constitution like a fundamentalist looks at the bible

You acknowledgement of defeat on this issue is noted and accepted.
next.

RW is so stupid he does not even realize it when his ass has been kicked. I guess he needs some civil servant to tell him.

liberals are not only stupid, they are helpless.

 

[rightwinger]

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

every day I am more convinced that liberalism is a mental disease. No sane person could think they way they do.

Liberals founded this country and are responsible for every major advance.

ALERT, ALERT, ALERT. WE HAVE THE FIRST DAILY CANDIDATE FOR DUMB POST OF THE DAY. POSTED BY ONE OF OUR DUMBEST POSTERS.

CONGRATULATIONS RW, IT IS DOUBTFUL THAT ANY OF YOUR FELLOW LIBS WILL OUTDO YOU TODAY, BUT THE DAY IS YOUNG,

BTW, DID YOU RETIRE YOUR SOCK JAKE SNARKEY?

History does not support you...even in RED
Liberals gave us this country. They abolished slavery, women's rights, worker protections, civil rights, environmental protections, gay rights

ALL opposed by conservatives

 

[The Rabbi]

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

every day I am more convinced that liberalism is a mental disease. No sane person could think they way they do.

Liberals founded this country and are responsible for every major advance.

ALERT, ALERT, ALERT. WE HAVE THE FIRST DAILY CANDIDATE FOR DUMB POST OF THE DAY. POSTED BY ONE OF OUR DUMBEST POSTERS.

CONGRATULATIONS RW, IT IS DOUBTFUL THAT ANY OF YOUR FELLOW LIBS WILL OUTDO YOU TODAY, BUT THE DAY IS YOUNG,

BTW, DID YOU RETIRE YOUR SOCK JAKE SNARKEY?

History does not support you...even in RED
Liberals gave us this country. They abolished slavery, women's rights, worker protections, civil rights, environmental protections, gay rights

ALL opposed by conservatives

Today's conservatives hold the same values as the original liberals.
Todays liberals hold the same values as Stalin and Hitler.

 

[rightwinger]

Sorry libertarian......but The Federalist Papers are not law
So much so that they were anonymously published

Madison had to edit and re-edit the constitution to satisfy all signatories. What is in there is the law.....not what Madison may have wanted

The courts decide....not the Federalist Papers

The General Welfare clause is not permission for the gov't to do anything and everything. If that were the case the Constitution would not have spelled out precisely what Congress' powers are.

Evidently, the courts disagree with you.
It hasn't been interpreted your way.....ever

Wrong.
The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. That is basic ConLaw doctrine and every Court has recognized that.

The courts provide wide latitude on those powers
Only asshole libertarians look at the Constitution like a fundamentalist looks at the bible

You acknowledgement of defeat on this issue is noted and accepted.
next.

If the Rabbi did not have self proclamed victories, he would have nothing

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

every day I am more convinced that liberalism is a mental disease. No sane person could think they way they do.

Liberals founded this country and are responsible for every major advance.

ALERT, ALERT, ALERT. WE HAVE THE FIRST DAILY CANDIDATE FOR DUMB POST OF THE DAY. POSTED BY ONE OF OUR DUMBEST POSTERS.

CONGRATULATIONS RW, IT IS DOUBTFUL THAT ANY OF YOUR FELLOW LIBS WILL OUTDO YOU TODAY, BUT THE DAY IS YOUNG,

BTW, DID YOU RETIRE YOUR SOCK JAKE SNARKEY?

History does not support you...even in RED
Liberals gave us this country. They abolished slavery, women's rights, worker protections, civil rights, environmental protections, gay rights

ALL opposed by conservatives

Today's conservatives hold the same values as the original liberals.
Todays liberals hold the same values as Stalin and Hitler.

Conservatives are stuck in the eighteenth century?
Seems about right

 

[rightwinger]

Well... I guess we should round up all black people and put them back in shackles again because SCOTUS ruled they were property and held that decision until we passed a Constitutional amendment to override it. Then they ruled segregation and Jim Crow was Constitutional until Congress passed an Act to overturn that. So... IF the SCOTUS is the final decider... we need to enslave the blacks again, right?

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

I thought you said liberals worship communism
Two opposite ends of the political spectrum yet you seem to claim Liberals are all of them

Communism and fascism are not opposite ends. They are the same. Hitler preached National Socialism. Stalin preached International Socialism.

 

[The Rabbi]

The General Welfare clause is not permission for the gov't to do anything and everything. If that were the case the Constitution would not have spelled out precisely what Congress' powers are.

Evidently, the courts disagree with you.
It hasn't been interpreted your way.....ever

Wrong.
The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. That is basic ConLaw doctrine and every Court has recognized that.

The courts provide wide latitude on those powers
Only asshole libertarians look at the Constitution like a fundamentalist looks at the bible

You acknowledgement of defeat on this issue is noted and accepted.
next.

If the Rabbi did not have self proclamed victories, he would have nothing

You are deluded. That much is clear.

 

[The Rabbi]

That puts you at 150 years ago

You have a long way to go. No court is going to agree with the simplistic interpretation that the Constitution is a be all and end all established 200 years ago

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

I thought you said liberals worship communism
Two opposite ends of the political spectrum yet you seem to claim Liberals are all of them

Communism and fascism are not opposite ends. They are the same. Hitler preached National Socialism. Stalin preached International Socialism.

Liberals are easily swayed by clever graphics that support their point of view. Calling Bush a conservative is one of the biggest laughs of all time.

 

[rightwinger]

I just don't understand why you want a bunch of beauocrats running every aspect of your life. Are you so incompetent that you cannot care for yourself. Why are you willing to turn your individual freedom over to a bunch of assholes in DC? and before you answer, those assholes may all be conservative republicans in a couple of years.

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

I thought you said liberals worship communism
Two opposite ends of the political spectrum yet you seem to claim Liberals are all of them

Communism and fascism are not opposite ends. They are the same. Hitler preached National Socialism. Stalin preached International Socialism.

Liberals are easily swayed by clever graphics that support their point of view. Calling Bush a conservative is one of the biggest laughs of all time.

Conservative Party candidate in 2000 and 2004

 

[The Rabbi]

Liberals worship fascism and yearn for the day Big Daddy will tell them what to do and take care of them.

I thought you said liberals worship communism
Two opposite ends of the political spectrum yet you seem to claim Liberals are all of them

Communism and fascism are not opposite ends. They are the same. Hitler preached National Socialism. Stalin preached International Socialism.

Liberals are easily swayed by clever graphics that support their point of view. Calling Bush a conservative is one of the biggest laughs of all time.

Conservative Party candidate in 2000 and 2004

We dont have a Conservative Party. Not one that amounts to anything.
Wrong again, Nutjobber. I wonder how you can come on here and post incorrect information over and over and not be embarassed.