CPS investigates "unsocialized" homeschoolers

[jillian]

Home schooled kids are ALWAYS scoring higher than their PS peers. Just the way things are.

it really isn't

Prove it

Every study out there has shown that home schooled kids outperform their public educated peers

that's false.

 

[jillian]

Funny how our "licensed" teachers promote kids to the next grade whether they know the material or not oh and let's not forget that teachers these days love to grade on a curve so as to make their pupils look less stupid and them look better

if a kid isn't grasping a grade level's material the parents are already failing them. no need to double down on that failure by having the parent be the sole educator

Funny how home schooled kids outperform their public school counterparts on every measure though isn't it?

HSLDA | Academic Statistics on Homeschooling

Public schools teach to the test, all they are doing is turning out little test taking machines.

at least they're taught something other than creationism.

which is why extremists generally homeschool.

Yeah no one home schools except religious fundamentalists

Maybe you should tell that to my atheist friends who home school their 3 kids

I think I used the word most.

and statistically that's true. unless your child has been bullied and you pull them out of school to homeschool.

most people have no other reason to keep their kids away from school.

 

[Unkotare]

Nope we shouldn't. Period. Your government controlling every aspect of our life will never happen. Keep dreaming though.

i just think it would be nice if we made sure that people wanting to teach their kids at home were actually capable and weren't just reying to "protect" their kids from actual knowledge

there's a lot of ignorant people out there that will do enough damage to their kids just being their parents without them also being their sole educators

Who are you to say?

just some asshole.

and it'll never happen. but can you imagine the disservice done to a child if say they have racist parents that never expose them to other people, teach them some insane ideas about the constitution and history, and never teach them science or health because that's not how god would want it?

what chance would that kid have at ever being anything other than trash like his parents?

Lots of kids in public school have racist parents and grow up to be racist pieces of shit so what's your point?

I figured I had the clown you were quoting on ignore for a reason and I was right but you can see right through their pathetic scheme. They want ALL kids to be brainwashed with the propaganda they are fed in public school and not taught actual facts at home. My kids attend public school unfortunately and my daughter and son know what a n!gger is and my daughter can't stand being around the Mexican kids at her school which is fine by me. Not a damn thing wrong with sticking with her own kind and ANY piece of anti white shit that says its wrong is shot down quickly. She makes me proud since the school she attends is majority Mexishit but my daughter attends the whitest classroom and is in the gifted program for bright kids. Fortunately we are moving to a MUCH whiter area next year.

You can't move away from YOUR own weakness, pussy.

 

[Unkotare]

if a kid isn't grasping a grade level's material the parents are already failing them. no need to double down on that failure by having the parent be the sole educator

Funny how home schooled kids outperform their public school counterparts on every measure though isn't it?

HSLDA | Academic Statistics on Homeschooling

Public schools teach to the test, all they are doing is turning out little test taking machines.

at least they're taught something other than creationism.

which is why extremists generally homeschool.

Yeah no one home schools except religious fundamentalists

Maybe you should tell that to my atheist friends who home school their 3 kids

I think I used the word most.

and statistically that's true. unless your child has been bullied and you pull them out of school to homeschool.

most people have no other reason to keep their kids away from school.

You have failed to prove your assertion.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Funny how our "licensed" teachers promote kids to the next grade whether they know the material or not oh and let's not forget that teachers these days love to grade on a curve so as to make their pupils look less stupid and them look better

if a kid isn't grasping a grade level's material the parents are already failing them. no need to double down on that failure by having the parent be the sole educator

Funny how home schooled kids outperform their public school counterparts on every measure though isn't it?

HSLDA | Academic Statistics on Homeschooling

it really isn't. it's a small sample size of kids with typically very involved parents.

kids with involved parents do generally do better.

It's a small sample because very few kids are home schooled
And in general parents who home school are very involved

Public education has nothing on home schooling

so you admit you can't do a straight comparison

The test results are the test results

You can't deny that. There are statistical methods that can compare a large population to a small one you know
If you think the studies are flawed it's up to you to prove your point

So prove it

 

[Skull Pilot]

My god....you are one dumb woman. Homeschooling always has been and always will be legal.

we really should require licenses.

we dont need generational stupidity.

Funny how our "licensed" teachers promote kids to the next grade whether they know the material or not oh and let's not forget that teachers these days love to grade on a curve so as to make their pupils look less stupid and them look better

that happens at times and it shouldn't.

i'm not sure what that has to do with the fact that an education is valuable.

at times?

More than ever I'll wager

And I never said anything about the value of an education did I?

My point that you missed is that home schooled children for the most part are better educated than their public school counterparts and t the fucking government investigating so called "unsocialized" children is pure unadulterated BULLSHIT

I didn't miss it. I pointed out that it's a false assertion.

I never mentioned the value of an education it's you who tries to divert here not me

But maybe you think the only thing that counts as an education only comes from government schools

 

[Skull Pilot]

Home schooled kids are ALWAYS scoring higher than their PS peers. Just the way things are.

it really isn't

Prove it

Every study out there has shown that home schooled kids outperform their public educated peers

no, they haven't

Prove your point.

I posted a link to a very well referenced article with multiple sources listed in the end notes

You have posted nothing but your worthless opinion

 

[Skull Pilot]

Who are you to say?

just some asshole.

and it'll never happen. but can you imagine the disservice done to a child if say they have racist parents that never expose them to other people, teach them some insane ideas about the constitution and history, and never teach them science or health because that's not how god would want it?

what chance would that kid have at ever being anything other than trash like his parents?

Again, who are you to say? Who are you to say who is "trash"? Probably millions of Americans who would consider the likes of you to be trash.

nope. I'm a functioning member of society with his shit together. some people may not agree with me or my views, but nobody is honestly calling me trash.

as has been said, extremists like to homeschool for a reason. i just wish we'd license people first to maybe give some of those kids a chance

although maybe we'd really be better off if we licensed who could have kids...

FYI parents who home school have to submit the coursework to the local board of education and as I have shown you these kids do far better than public school kids

I find it funny that in this list of pros and cons the cons say nothing about the quality of the education of the kids being home schooled because there is no dispute that home schooled kids on average are better educated than public school kids
Benefits and Disadvantages of Homeschooling

Why do you think that is?

It's obvious that home schooled kids in general beat their public school counterparts and multiple studies bear that out

 

[Skull Pilot]

Home schooled kids are ALWAYS scoring higher than their PS peers. Just the way things are.

it really isn't

Prove it

Every study out there has shown that home schooled kids outperform their public educated peers

that's false.

Where is your proof?

Post a referenced study that says so

I would think a lawyer would know that opinions don't mean shit

 

[Skull Pilot]

if a kid isn't grasping a grade level's material the parents are already failing them. no need to double down on that failure by having the parent be the sole educator

Funny how home schooled kids outperform their public school counterparts on every measure though isn't it?

HSLDA | Academic Statistics on Homeschooling

Public schools teach to the test, all they are doing is turning out little test taking machines.

at least they're taught something other than creationism.

which is why extremists generally homeschool.

Yeah no one home schools except religious fundamentalists

Maybe you should tell that to my atheist friends who home school their 3 kids

I think I used the word most.

and statistically that's true. unless your child has been bullied and you pull them out of school to homeschool.

most people have no other reason to keep their kids away from school.

There are a hell of a lot of reasons to keep kids out of public school.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Home schooled kids are ALWAYS scoring higher than their PS peers. Just the way things are.

it really isn't

Prove it

Every study out there has shown that home schooled kids outperform their public educated peers

that's false.

Where is your proof?

Post a referenced study that says so

I would think a lawyer would no that opinions don't mean shit

Research Facts on Homeschooling | Research

Academic Performance

• The home-educated typically score 15 to 30 percentile points above public-school students on standardized academic achievement tests. (The public school average is the 50th percentile; scores range from 1 to 99.)

• Homeschool students score above average on achievement tests regardless of their parents’ level of formal education or their family’s household income.

• Whether homeschool parents were ever certified teachers is not related to their children’s academic achievement.

• Degree of state control and regulation of homeschooling is not related to academic achievement.

• Home-educated students typically score above average on the SAT and ACT tests that colleges consider for admissions.

• Homeschool students are increasingly being actively recruited by colleges

 

[ogibillm]

if a kid isn't grasping a grade level's material the parents are already failing them. no need to double down on that failure by having the parent be the sole educator

Funny how home schooled kids outperform their public school counterparts on every measure though isn't it?

HSLDA | Academic Statistics on Homeschooling

it really isn't. it's a small sample size of kids with typically very involved parents.

kids with involved parents do generally do better.

It's a small sample because very few kids are home schooled
And in general parents who home school are very involved

Public education has nothing on home schooling

so you admit you can't do a straight comparison

The test results are the test results

You can't deny that. There are statistical methods that can compare a large population to a small one you know
If you think the studies are flawed it's up to you to prove your point

So prove it

you haven't shown any studies

 

[ogibillm]

Home schooled kids are ALWAYS scoring higher than their PS peers. Just the way things are.

it really isn't

Prove it

Every study out there has shown that home schooled kids outperform their public educated peers

that's false.

Where is your proof?

Post a referenced study that says so

I would think a lawyer would no that opinions don't mean shit

Research Facts on Homeschooling | Research

Academic Performance

• The home-educated typically score 15 to 30 percentile points above public-school students on standardized academic achievement tests. (The public school average is the 50th percentile; scores range from 1 to 99.)

• Homeschool students score above average on achievement tests regardless of their parents’ level of formal education or their family’s household income.

• Whether homeschool parents were ever certified teachers is not related to their children’s academic achievement.

• Degree of state control and regulation of homeschooling is not related to academic achievement.

• Home-educated students typically score above average on the SAT and ACT tests that colleges consider for admissions.

• Homeschool students are increasingly being actively recruited by colleges

none of that proves that homeschooled kids do better because they are homeschooled. surely you realize this

 

[Skull Pilot]

Funny how home schooled kids outperform their public school counterparts on every measure though isn't it?

HSLDA | Academic Statistics on Homeschooling

it really isn't. it's a small sample size of kids with typically very involved parents.

kids with involved parents do generally do better.

It's a small sample because very few kids are home schooled
And in general parents who home school are very involved

Public education has nothing on home schooling

so you admit you can't do a straight comparison

The test results are the test results

You can't deny that. There are statistical methods that can compare a large population to a small one you know
If you think the studies are flawed it's up to you to prove your point

So prove it

you haven't shown any studies

Hey idiot read the links I posted the studies are all referenced in the end notes the articles are a summary of the studies

 

[jillian]

we really should require licenses.

we dont need generational stupidity.

Funny how our "licensed" teachers promote kids to the next grade whether they know the material or not oh and let's not forget that teachers these days love to grade on a curve so as to make their pupils look less stupid and them look better

that happens at times and it shouldn't.

i'm not sure what that has to do with the fact that an education is valuable.

at times?

More than ever I'll wager

And I never said anything about the value of an education did I?

My point that you missed is that home schooled children for the most part are better educated than their public school counterparts and t the fucking government investigating so called "unsocialized" children is pure unadulterated BULLSHIT

I didn't miss it. I pointed out that it's a false assertion.

I never mentioned the value of an education it's you who tries to divert here not me

But maybe you think the only thing that counts as an education only comes from government schools

no. I think private schools can be good too.

 

[Skull Pilot]

it really isn't

Prove it

Every study out there has shown that home schooled kids outperform their public educated peers

that's false.

Where is your proof?

Post a referenced study that says so

I would think a lawyer would no that opinions don't mean shit

Research Facts on Homeschooling | Research

Academic Performance

• The home-educated typically score 15 to 30 percentile points above public-school students on standardized academic achievement tests. (The public school average is the 50th percentile; scores range from 1 to 99.)

• Homeschool students score above average on achievement tests regardless of their parents’ level of formal education or their family’s household income.

• Whether homeschool parents were ever certified teachers is not related to their children’s academic achievement.

• Degree of state control and regulation of homeschooling is not related to academic achievement.

• Home-educated students typically score above average on the SAT and ACT tests that colleges consider for admissions.

• Homeschool students are increasingly being actively recruited by colleges

none of that proves that homeschooled kids do better because they are homeschooled. surely you realize this

Then what does it prove? It proves that home schooled kids outperform public school kids on the same standardized tests and that result has nothing to do with the financial or educational status of the parents doing the home schooling

 

[ogibillm]

it really isn't. it's a small sample size of kids with typically very involved parents.

kids with involved parents do generally do better.

It's a small sample because very few kids are home schooled
And in general parents who home school are very involved

Public education has nothing on home schooling

so you admit you can't do a straight comparison

The test results are the test results

You can't deny that. There are statistical methods that can compare a large population to a small one you know
If you think the studies are flawed it's up to you to prove your point

So prove it

you haven't shown any studies

Hey idiot read the links I posted the studies are all referenced in the end notes the articles are a summary of the studies

nope. I'm not digging through propaganda. you can link the studies if you want to discuss them

 

[ogibillm]

Prove it

Every study out there has shown that home schooled kids outperform their public educated peers

that's false.

Where is your proof?

Post a referenced study that says so

I would think a lawyer would no that opinions don't mean shit

Research Facts on Homeschooling | Research

Academic Performance

• The home-educated typically score 15 to 30 percentile points above public-school students on standardized academic achievement tests. (The public school average is the 50th percentile; scores range from 1 to 99.)

• Homeschool students score above average on achievement tests regardless of their parents’ level of formal education or their family’s household income.

• Whether homeschool parents were ever certified teachers is not related to their children’s academic achievement.

• Degree of state control and regulation of homeschooling is not related to academic achievement.

• Home-educated students typically score above average on the SAT and ACT tests that colleges consider for admissions.

• Homeschool students are increasingly being actively recruited by colleges

none of that proves that homeschooled kids do better because they are homeschooled. surely you realize this

Then what does it prove? It proves that home schooled kids outperform public school kids on the same standardized tests and that result has nothing to do with the financial or educational status of the parents doing the home schooling

it proves nothing
you think those are the only variables?

 

[Skull Pilot]

It's a small sample because very few kids are home schooled
And in general parents who home school are very involved

Public education has nothing on home schooling

so you admit you can't do a straight comparison

The test results are the test results

You can't deny that. There are statistical methods that can compare a large population to a small one you know
If you think the studies are flawed it's up to you to prove your point

So prove it

you haven't shown any studies

Hey idiot read the links I posted the studies are all referenced in the end notes the articles are a summary of the studies

nope. I'm not digging through propaganda. you can link the studies if you want to discuss them

Then we have nothing to discuss but your opinion and I already told you what I think of that

 

[ogibillm]

so you admit you can't do a straight comparison

The test results are the test results

You can't deny that. There are statistical methods that can compare a large population to a small one you know
If you think the studies are flawed it's up to you to prove your point

So prove it

you haven't shown any studies

Hey idiot read the links I posted the studies are all referenced in the end notes the articles are a summary of the studies

nope. I'm not digging through propaganda. you can link the studies if you want to discuss them

Then we have nothing to discuss but your opinion and I already told you what I think of that

can't produce the 'studies,' can you