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The defense of liberalism BY liberals in this thread, is nothing short of inane leftard rhetoric and psycho babble. A good example of why they're incapable of governing... they don't even have the where with all and gray matter to realize that THEY are the problem.
There's only one word to describe them... "stupid."
I said that municipal water should be funded by the local taxes, like the police and fire department and other public works.
What's your argument against that?
If only you had an education and a sense of character, you'd know the answer.
This might help:
1. As Thomas Jefferson once wrote regarding the "general Welfare" clause:
To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." US Department of the Treasury
2. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.
a. Joseph gathered very much grain: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).
b. That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33
My, what is it with you guys, that you trot out these self-loathing Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemimas and you think you have an argument.
What does that have to do with anything I said.
I got let go from a job after 6 years of hard work because I slipped on some ice and busted up my knee and required tens of thousands of dollars to fix.
Didn't matter I worked 60 hours a week for them sometimes, coming in on Saturdays to take care of things. Didn't matter that I had seniority on the rest of the office, didn't matter that I developed processes and procedures they are using to this very day.
The minute it looked like i might cost them more than their obscene profit margin, they were pretty keen to get me off the payroll.
So seriously, fuck the rich, fuck capitalism.
I don't want to see people on welfare, but I'd rather give it to welfare people than rich people.
I have no desire to disparage your personal experience, and anxieties.
This is about policies and their effect on a societal level.
The evidence is clear, and except for the filter of your personal situation, it is convincing.
The vast majority of delinquent individuals could pay...but were allowed to believe- due to Liberal indoctrination- that some illusory 'rich guys' should be dunned to take care of their bill.
Liberals/Progressives/Democrats, whatever have been able to use envy and jealousy to have huge numbers of low-character individuals rationalize that they 'deserve' what other people have earned.
Was that the same kind of liberal propaganda that made Clive Bundy think he didn't have to pay grazing fees?
The defense of liberalism BY liberals in this thread, is nothing short of inane leftard rhetoric and psycho babble. A good example of why they're incapable of governing... they don't even have the where with all and gray matter to realize that THEY are the problem.
There's only one word to describe them... "stupid."
I said that municipal water should be funded by the local taxes, like the police and fire department and other public works.
What's your argument against that?
If only you had an education and a sense of character, you'd know the answer.
This might help:
1. As Thomas Jefferson once wrote regarding the "general Welfare" clause:
To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." US Department of the Treasury
2. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.
a. Joseph gathered very much grain: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).
b. That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33
I have no desire to disparage your personal experience, and anxieties.
This is about policies and their effect on a societal level.
The evidence is clear, and except for the filter of your personal situation, it is convincing.
The vast majority of delinquent individuals could pay...but were allowed to believe- due to Liberal indoctrination- that some illusory 'rich guys' should be dunned to take care of their bill.
Liberals/Progressives/Democrats, whatever have been able to use envy and jealousy to have huge numbers of low-character individuals rationalize that they 'deserve' what other people have earned.
Was that the same kind of liberal propaganda that made Clive Bundy think he didn't have to pay grazing fees?
He was wrong, he paid the fines.
Now, if the people in Detroit don't want to pay for their city water, they can just walk down to the Detroit river with a bucket and get their own water--------and its free.
Detroit is a perfect example of what happens when democrats, liberals, and minorities control a government.
I said that municipal water should be funded by the local taxes, like the police and fire department and other public works.
What's your argument against that?
If only you had an education and a sense of character, you'd know the answer.
This might help:
1. As Thomas Jefferson once wrote regarding the "general Welfare" clause:
To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." US Department of the Treasury
2. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.
a. Joseph gathered very much grain: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).
b. That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33
Your post, as usual, doesn't address my post.
If municipal water was "free" (included in the tax base), then taxes would be higher and those same people would not pay their taxes--------same result but with more govt beaurocracy.
If municipal water was "free" (included in the tax base), then taxes would be higher and those same people would not pay their taxes--------same result but with more govt beaurocracy.
If it's in property taxes they'd either pay them or lose their homes. If they rented it would be in their rent. If it's in sales tax, they'd pay it when they bought stuff.
If only you had an education and a sense of character, you'd know the answer.
This might help:
1. As Thomas Jefferson once wrote regarding the "general Welfare" clause:
To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." US Department of the Treasury
2. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.
a. Joseph gathered very much grain: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).
b. That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33
Your post, as usual, doesn't address my post.
Leave her alone. She could not find a cut and paste that worked. Not that this ever stops her.
I said that municipal water should be funded by the local taxes, like the police and fire department and other public works.
What's your argument against that?
If only you had an education and a sense of character, you'd know the answer.
This might help:
1. As Thomas Jefferson once wrote regarding the "general Welfare" clause:
To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." US Department of the Treasury
2. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.
a. Joseph gathered very much grain: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).
b. That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33
And Thomas Paine argued for a basic income as a right for all citizens,
if you want to play dueling founders.
Two arguments for Basic Income: Thomas Paine (1737-1809) and Thomas Spence (1750-1814) | John Marangos - Academia.edu
Your post, as usual, doesn't address my post.
Leave her alone. She could not find a cut and paste that worked. Not that this ever stops her.
I don't understand why some people let their hatred of the poor rot their brains.
And notice that they never have any better ideas? Other than, of course, cutting off help to the poor and starving them into the middle class...
If municipal water was "free" (included in the tax base), then taxes would be higher and those same people would not pay their taxes--------same result but with more govt beaurocracy.
If it's in property taxes they'd either pay them or lose their homes. If they rented it would be in their rent. If it's in sales tax, they'd pay it when they bought stuff.
Yes, and thats exactly what would happen (and has happened) homes would be foreclosed, renters would be evicted, and sales would decline.
The water problem is just a symptom of a much bigger problem in the once great city of Detroit. Unions, liberalism, corruption, and high taxes on business have destroyed the economy of this city.
Leave her alone. She could not find a cut and paste that worked. Not that this ever stops her.
I don't understand why some people let their hatred of the poor rot their brains.
And notice that they never have any better ideas? Other than, of course, cutting off help to the poor and starving them into the middle class...
Who has ever said that they hate the poor? Who?
Holding people responsible for their own lives is not hating them. Helping those truly in need and expecting others to pull their own weight is love, not hate.
making people slaves to the government is the ultimate form of hate. Its you on the left who hate the poor, the rich, the middle, corporations, oil, and freedom. YOU are the haters.
And what's the alternative you have to offer?
Work hard all your life to make the 1% richer? And if you get old, get sick, bust up your knee on some ice, well, seriously, tough on you?
This is the "alternative"? And you wonder why Obama wins elections?
I got yer alternative right here!
1. In her book, "Uncle Sam's Plantation," Star Parker recounts her journey from life as a hustler and welfare addict to freedom. The following gives one version of the path to success.
She's talking about you, ErroneousJoe
My, what is it with you guys, that you trot out these self-loathing Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemimas and you think you have an argument.
What does that have to do with anything I said.
I got let go from a job after 6 years of hard work because I slipped on some ice and busted up my knee and required tens of thousands of dollars to fix.
Didn't matter I worked 60 hours a week for them sometimes, coming in on Saturdays to take care of things. Didn't matter that I had seniority on the rest of the office, didn't matter that I developed processes and procedures they are using to this very day.
The minute it looked like i might cost them more than their obscene profit margin, they were pretty keen to get me off the payroll.
So seriously, fuck the rich, fuck capitalism.
I don't want to see people on welfare, but I'd rather give it to welfare people than rich people.
If only you had an education and a sense of character, you'd know the answer.
This might help:
1. As Thomas Jefferson once wrote regarding the "general Welfare" clause:
To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." US Department of the Treasury
2. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.
a. Joseph gathered very much grain: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).
b. That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33
And Thomas Paine argued for a basic income as a right for all citizens,
if you want to play dueling founders.
Two arguments for Basic Income: Thomas Paine (1737-1809) and Thomas Spence (1750-1814) | John Marangos - Academia.edu
'The Power to Tax Is the Power to Destroy'
John Marshall
Leave her alone. She could not find a cut and paste that worked. Not that this ever stops her.
I don't understand why some people let their hatred of the poor rot their brains.
And notice that they never have any better ideas? Other than, of course, cutting off help to the poor and starving them into the middle class...
Who has ever said that they hate the poor? Who?
Holding people responsible for their own lives is not hating them. Helping those truly in need and expecting others to pull their own weight is love, not hate.
making people slaves to the government is the ultimate form of hate. Its you on the left who hate the poor, the rich, the middle, corporations, oil, and freedom. YOU are the haters.
If it's in property taxes they'd either pay them or lose their homes. If they rented it would be in their rent. If it's in sales tax, they'd pay it when they bought stuff.
Yes, and thats exactly what would happen (and has happened) homes would be foreclosed, renters would be evicted, and sales would decline.
The water problem is just a symptom of a much bigger problem in the once great city of Detroit. Unions, liberalism, corruption, and high taxes on business have destroyed the economy of this city.
Ah yes the Right's other favorite scapegoats.
San Jose, California is the richest city in America, and Brownsville, Texas is the poorest.
The next four richest?
Washington, DC
Bridgeport, CT
San Francisco
Boston
The other poorest?
Dalton, Ga
McAllen, Texas
Gadsden, Alabama
Kingman, Arizona
Where do liberals get the credit/blame for that? lol
Looks to me like quite a distinct red state/blue state pattern there...
America's richest and poorest cities- MSN Money
I don't understand why some people let their hatred of the poor rot their brains.
And notice that they never have any better ideas? Other than, of course, cutting off help to the poor and starving them into the middle class...
Who has ever said that they hate the poor? Who?
Holding people responsible for their own lives is not hating them. Helping those truly in need and expecting others to pull their own weight is love, not hate.
making people slaves to the government is the ultimate form of hate. Its you on the left who hate the poor, the rich, the middle, corporations, oil, and freedom. YOU are the haters.
If it's up to people to pull their own weight (using YOUR reasoning here), then people without kids shouldn't have to pay school taxes, and that burden should be shifted to the people who have kids.
You like that idea?
Who has ever said that they hate the poor? Who?
Holding people responsible for their own lives is not hating them. Helping those truly in need and expecting others to pull their own weight is love, not hate.
making people slaves to the government is the ultimate form of hate. Its you on the left who hate the poor, the rich, the middle, corporations, oil, and freedom. YOU are the haters.
If it's up to people to pull their own weight (using YOUR reasoning here), then people without kids shouldn't have to pay school taxes, and that burden should be shifted to the people who have kids.
You like that idea?
Yes, and a person with a well does not have to pay for city water.
Should a family of 2 pay the same water bill as a family of 10? or should we pay for what we use?
Yes, and thats exactly what would happen (and has happened) homes would be foreclosed, renters would be evicted, and sales would decline.
The water problem is just a symptom of a much bigger problem in the once great city of Detroit. Unions, liberalism, corruption, and high taxes on business have destroyed the economy of this city.
Ah yes the Right's other favorite scapegoats.
San Jose, California is the richest city in America, and Brownsville, Texas is the poorest.
The next four richest?
Washington, DC
Bridgeport, CT
San Francisco
Boston
The other poorest?
Dalton, Ga
McAllen, Texas
Gadsden, Alabama
Kingman, Arizona
Where do liberals get the credit/blame for that? lol
Looks to me like quite a distinct red state/blue state pattern there...
America's richest and poorest cities- MSN Money
that study compares the average incomes of the residents of the cities, not the fiscal health of the city governments.
But we get it, liberals lie, you are a liberal---------------------
