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What's wrong with water being taxpayer funded as a municipal service, specifically?
For starters: it would jack up the price, encourage waste and likely lead to shortages. But those are just the infrastructural costs. Didn't you learn anything from the OP about the societal costs? Geez louise!
Detroit is right on one of the Great Lakes. They aren't about to run out of water.
Did Polivinyl chic mention that 60% of the late water accounts were from business accounts?
Municipal water supplies should be taxpayer funded, like police and fire departments, and street maintenance, and waste disposal/treatment.
... and food, and medical care, and housing, and cell phones, and clothing, and cars, and drugs, and booze, and Xboxes, and televisions, and dental care, and gold chains, and switchblades, and condoms, and education, and more education, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and ...
I think the stinking working class OWES the entitlement class BIG TIME. It's simply not fair that workers should be allowed to keep their money and plan for retirement. Filthy middle class!!!
For starters: it would jack up the price, encourage waste and likely lead to shortages. But those are just the infrastructural costs. Didn't you learn anything from the OP about the societal costs? Geez louise!
Detroit is right on one of the Great Lakes. They aren't about to run out of water.
Check. I know the geography. Let's talk the European continent next, starting with the Danube. What nations does that river run through and into what body of water does it empty?
Seriously?
That's the extent of your understanding of the economic and infrastructural realities of supply and demand? Geez louise!
Don't pretend to be an idiot.
Clearly this is not about 'poor people.'
It is about those who simply refuse to pay for the water.
Now provide a more honest post.
They aren't "refusing to pay". they can't.
What is happening in Detroit is that they are letting some big corporations pick the last few bits of meat off the bone.
Frankly, what's in store for all of us if we don't get this stuff under control.
We've been tirelessly working to stave off the destructive policies of leftists morons for decades. We'd fix Detroit too if you leftists would get out of the way. What more do you want from us?
Check out these morons:
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Them Poor People Don't deserve Water!
Don't pretend to be an idiot.
Clearly this is not about 'poor people.'
It is about those who simply refuse to pay for the water.
Now provide a more honest post.
They aren't "refusing to pay". they can't.
What is happening in Detroit is that they are letting some big corporations pick the last few bits of meat off the bone.
Frankly, what's in store for all of us if we don't get this stuff under control.
Municipal water supplies should be taxpayer funded, like police and fire departments, and street maintenance, and waste disposal/treatment.
Why stop there???
"Employment, with a living wage
Food, clothing and leisure
Farmers' rights to a fair income
Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies
Housing
Medical care
Social security
Education"
Franklin Roosevelt
And, the list comes with music:
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And what's the alternative you have to offer?
Work hard all your life to make the 1% richer? And if you get old, get sick, bust up your knee on some ice, well, seriously, tough on you?
This is the "alternative"? And you wonder why Obama wins elections?
Detroit is a hotbed for houses sitting empty due to foreclosure. I'm wondering if this has something to do with delinquent water bills?
Why stop there???
"Employment, with a living wage
Food, clothing and leisure
Farmers' rights to a fair income
Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies
Housing
Medical care
Social security
Education"
Franklin Roosevelt
And, the list comes with music:
l]
And what's the alternative you have to offer?
Work hard all your life to make the 1% richer? And if you get old, get sick, bust up your knee on some ice, well, seriously, tough on you?
This is the "alternative"? And you wonder why Obama wins elections?
I got yer alternative right here!
1. In her book, "Uncle Sam's Plantation," Star Parker recounts her journey from life as a hustler and welfare addict to freedom. The following gives one version of the path to success.
She's talking about you, ErroneousJoe
Why stop there???
"Employment, with a living wage
Food, clothing and leisure
Farmers' rights to a fair income
Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies
Housing
Medical care
Social security
Education"
Franklin Roosevelt
And, the list comes with music:
l]
And what's the alternative you have to offer?
Work hard all your life to make the 1% richer? And if you get old, get sick, bust up your knee on some ice, well, seriously, tough on you?
This is the "alternative"? And you wonder why Obama wins elections?
I got yer alternative right here!
1. In her book, "Uncle Sam's Plantation," Star Parker recounts her journey from life as a hustler and welfare addict to freedom. The following gives one version of the path to success.
2. 'My first post-welfare job was hardly a dream job. Assigned to a sterile basement room in a huge office building, I had to hand-write the orders called in by salesmen, and send it to the shipping department. Since, the more orders they called in, the more money they made, the salesman talked fast and were rushed. The shippers, union laborers, on the other hand, received the same wage no matter how much work they did, so they talked slowly and made no effort to be efficient.
a. I acted as if it was my own customer, and the order that I was receiving was worth a million dollars to my business. My view was that hard work would open up opportunities to leave welfare behind, and poverty forever.
3. The only other black in the department was a 32-year-old female who had been there 15 years. On my first day at work she was eager to give me the scoop, including how to get away with the least amount of work for the maximum financial benefit- by paying $260 to join the labor union. Every day she would say I was "uppity" because I worked fast and actually enjoyed it! The more I fulfilled my tasks with vigor, the more dislike I engendered from the union workers.
a. I didn't now about unions, but as an ex-street hustler and con artist, it sounded a lot like paying for protection. Actually, I had no plans to remain for long, and intended to start my own business as soon as I finished writhing a business plan.
4. One particularly busy day, calls were coming in furiously! But I responded by making each feel that they were the most important call I had received that day. My supervisor asked me "Have you ever considered sales and marketing?" He went on to tell me about a full-time position in the marketing department that paid much more than my current wage. And, provided benefits without having to join a union!
a. I declined, as I had my sights set on finishing college, and owning my own business. When the union went on strike, I saw it as the right time to try my hand as an entrepreneur.
5. I began publishing a monthly magazine with a calendar of events from churches around Los Angeles. I added editorials that addressed inner city needs. The spotlight was on wholesome entertainment for single Christians. What began as 16 black-and-white pages, eventually became 64 full color pages of professional layout and some 80 advertisements 8 years later. Exciting, yes, but it was hard work to sell enough ads to cover costs, my personal overhead, and the needs of my daughter.
a. A major pitfall occurred the first time I received the ubiquitous "congratulations, you have qualified" letter from a credit card company. Wow...a symbol of accomplishment and prestige! Before long I had 10 credit cards. Six years after starting my business, I went into bankruptcy. A year later, California went into severe recession. Two years later, the L.A. riots wiped out what was left, as many of my advertisers were burned to the ground. In the middle of all that...I was divorced.
6. But my determination never wavered. I refused to go back on welfare or listen to the leftist lies that sought to discourage me from even trying! I used my talkng/selling experience to cohosting a talk show on a small Christian radio station in Long Beach. It didn't quite pay minimum wage, and had no benefits....so I made money based on commissions from advertisers of the show. So, no guarantees.....but hard work and a positive attitude paid off: soon, I was offered the opportunity to host my own three-hour daily radio talk show with and ABC affiliate in San Francisco. Not only a good salary, but they put a studio in my home!'
Nothing new here.....the same works and worked for everyone.
" But my determination never wavered. I refused to go back on welfare or listen to the leftist lies that sought to discourage me from even trying!
She's talking about you, ErroneousJoe
And what's the alternative you have to offer?
Work hard all your life to make the 1% richer? And if you get old, get sick, bust up your knee on some ice, well, seriously, tough on you?
This is the "alternative"? And you wonder why Obama wins elections?
I got yer alternative right here!
1. In her book, "Uncle Sam's Plantation," Star Parker recounts her journey from life as a hustler and welfare addict to freedom. The following gives one version of the path to success.
She's talking about you, ErroneousJoe
My, what is it with you guys, that you trot out these self-loathing Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemimas and you think you have an argument.
What does that have to do with anything I said.
I got let go from a job after 6 years of hard work because I slipped on some ice and busted up my knee and required tens of thousands of dollars to fix.
Didn't matter I worked 60 hours a week for them sometimes, coming in on Saturdays to take care of things. Didn't matter that I had seniority on the rest of the office, didn't matter that I developed processes and procedures they are using to this very day.
The minute it looked like i might cost them more than their obscene profit margin, they were pretty keen to get me off the payroll.
So seriously, fuck the rich, fuck capitalism.
I don't want to see people on welfare, but I'd rather give it to welfare people than rich people.
The defense of liberalism BY liberals in this thread, is nothing short of inane leftard rhetoric and psycho babble. A good example of why they're incapable of governing... they don't even have the where with all and gray matter to realize that THEY are the problem.
There's only one word to describe them... "stupid."
And what's the alternative you have to offer?
Work hard all your life to make the 1% richer? And if you get old, get sick, bust up your knee on some ice, well, seriously, tough on you?
This is the "alternative"? And you wonder why Obama wins elections?
I got yer alternative right here!
1. In her book, "Uncle Sam's Plantation," Star Parker recounts her journey from life as a hustler and welfare addict to freedom. The following gives one version of the path to success.
2. 'My first post-welfare job was hardly a dream job. Assigned to a sterile basement room in a huge office building, I had to hand-write the orders called in by salesmen, and send it to the shipping department. Since, the more orders they called in, the more money they made, the salesman talked fast and were rushed. The shippers, union laborers, on the other hand, received the same wage no matter how much work they did, so they talked slowly and made no effort to be efficient.
a. I acted as if it was my own customer, and the order that I was receiving was worth a million dollars to my business. My view was that hard work would open up opportunities to leave welfare behind, and poverty forever.
3. The only other black in the department was a 32-year-old female who had been there 15 years. On my first day at work she was eager to give me the scoop, including how to get away with the least amount of work for the maximum financial benefit- by paying $260 to join the labor union. Every day she would say I was "uppity" because I worked fast and actually enjoyed it! The more I fulfilled my tasks with vigor, the more dislike I engendered from the union workers.
a. I didn't now about unions, but as an ex-street hustler and con artist, it sounded a lot like paying for protection. Actually, I had no plans to remain for long, and intended to start my own business as soon as I finished writhing a business plan.
4. One particularly busy day, calls were coming in furiously! But I responded by making each feel that they were the most important call I had received that day. My supervisor asked me "Have you ever considered sales and marketing?" He went on to tell me about a full-time position in the marketing department that paid much more than my current wage. And, provided benefits without having to join a union!
a. I declined, as I had my sights set on finishing college, and owning my own business. When the union went on strike, I saw it as the right time to try my hand as an entrepreneur.
5. I began publishing a monthly magazine with a calendar of events from churches around Los Angeles. I added editorials that addressed inner city needs. The spotlight was on wholesome entertainment for single Christians. What began as 16 black-and-white pages, eventually became 64 full color pages of professional layout and some 80 advertisements 8 years later. Exciting, yes, but it was hard work to sell enough ads to cover costs, my personal overhead, and the needs of my daughter.
a. A major pitfall occurred the first time I received the ubiquitous "congratulations, you have qualified" letter from a credit card company. Wow...a symbol of accomplishment and prestige! Before long I had 10 credit cards. Six years after starting my business, I went into bankruptcy. A year later, California went into severe recession. Two years later, the L.A. riots wiped out what was left, as many of my advertisers were burned to the ground. In the middle of all that...I was divorced.
6. But my determination never wavered. I refused to go back on welfare or listen to the leftist lies that sought to discourage me from even trying! I used my talkng/selling experience to cohosting a talk show on a small Christian radio station in Long Beach. It didn't quite pay minimum wage, and had no benefits....so I made money based on commissions from advertisers of the show. So, no guarantees.....but hard work and a positive attitude paid off: soon, I was offered the opportunity to host my own three-hour daily radio talk show with and ABC affiliate in San Francisco. Not only a good salary, but they put a studio in my home!'
Nothing new here.....the same works and worked for everyone.
" But my determination never wavered. I refused to go back on welfare or listen to the leftist lies that sought to discourage me from even trying!
She's talking about you, ErroneousJoe
Your alternative is that poor people should go into show business?
lol. Don't try to think for yourself, it appears to be a dangerous exercise for you.
What about the 1000 people that line up for 100 jobs at a new Walmart? Ten times the number of people than jobs,
and low paying jobs at that. What's your alternative for the other 900? That 900 times all the 900's that show up all across the country when 100 such jobs come up.
Rightwingers have been blaming poverty on the poor for as long as there have been rightwingers and poor people;
your act isn't even novel.
The defense of liberalism BY liberals in this thread, is nothing short of inane leftard rhetoric and psycho babble. A good example of why they're incapable of governing... they don't even have the where with all and gray matter to realize that THEY are the problem.
There's only one word to describe them... "stupid."
I said that municipal water should be funded by the local taxes, like the police and fire department and other public works.
What's your argument against that?
I got yer alternative right here!
1. In her book, "Uncle Sam's Plantation," Star Parker recounts her journey from life as a hustler and welfare addict to freedom. The following gives one version of the path to success.
She's talking about you, ErroneousJoe
My, what is it with you guys, that you trot out these self-loathing Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemimas and you think you have an argument.
What does that have to do with anything I said.
I got let go from a job after 6 years of hard work because I slipped on some ice and busted up my knee and required tens of thousands of dollars to fix.
Didn't matter I worked 60 hours a week for them sometimes, coming in on Saturdays to take care of things. Didn't matter that I had seniority on the rest of the office, didn't matter that I developed processes and procedures they are using to this very day.
The minute it looked like i might cost them more than their obscene profit margin, they were pretty keen to get me off the payroll.
So seriously, fuck the rich, fuck capitalism.
I don't want to see people on welfare, but I'd rather give it to welfare people than rich people.
I have no desire to disparage your personal experience, and anxieties.
This is about policies and their effect on a societal level.
The evidence is clear, and except for the filter of your personal situation, it is convincing.
The vast majority of delinquent individuals could pay...but were allowed to believe- due to Liberal indoctrination- that some illusory 'rich guys' should be dunned to take care of their bill.
Liberals/Progressives/Democrats, whatever have been able to use envy and jealousy to have huge numbers of low-character individuals rationalize that they 'deserve' what other people have earned.
Then Jesus must have been a big liberal since he believes that it is a sin to be rich....
