Did President Obama separate families at the border? Yes!

[JakeStarkey]

Where's the wall?

Only the best walls.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

It was crickets when Obama did it... And he had every right to do it. These people are illegal aliens they have no constitutional rights here. So fuck them

But Obama didn't want to deport illegals -- under Obama, he personally drove illegals across the border and fired border patrol agents for even attempting to stop illegals..

But...he also was tough on illegals, ripped families apart to deter them from coming -- deported more illegals than the previous admin


But....he didn't lift a finger to stop illegals, paid illegals to vote for him in his re-election campaign..

But....he totally loved to be hard on illegals and their children -- it's complicated

 

[jc456]

well fund the wall

We’re still waiting for the check from Mexico.

you asked for a solution, one was given, provide funding for the wall and you pay for the wall by not separating children from their parents at the border. why are you against saving the children?

 

[jc456]

It was crickets when Obama did it... And he had every right to do it. These people are illegal aliens they have no constitutional rights here. So fuck them

But Obama didn't want to deport illegals -- under Obama, he personally drove illegals across the border and fired border patrol agents for even attempting to stop illegals..

But...he also was tough on illegals, ripped families apart to deter them from coming -- deported more illegals the his previous admin


But....he didn't lift a finger to stop illegals, paid illegals to vote for him in his re-election campaign..

But....he totally loved to be hard on illegals and their children -- it's complicated

And?

 

[rightwinger]

It's pointless, I know, since there is no active listening ability where conservatives are concerned.

Obama did separate kids from parents but not as a hard and fast policy. Sometimes they did, some times (most times according to reports) they did not.
Trump is doing it as a hard and fast policy. So much so, a new center in El Paso is being opened to hold, I believe 4,100 boys. For how long? Nobody knows.

Those are simply the facts of the matter.

build the wall and no one has to worry any longer. Trump already has a solution. why do you wish to keep him from implementing it?

Build a wall or the children get it!

 

[candycorn]

Does anyone remember any of the boards libs starting any threads and being outraged, years ago about the issue of separating families during Obama's presidency ?



Before Jeff Sessions Separated Immigrant Families, Obama Did It
May 8, 2018, 6:16pm Tina Vasquez

A program that detains male Mexican migrants near the border and repatriates them far from their area of origin ramped up under the Obama administration—and often led to family separation.


The Alien Transfer Exit Program

The United States since 2008 has had a policy called the Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP), which detains male Mexican migrants near the border and, instead of repatriating them to their area of origin, leaves them hundreds—and sometimes thousands—of miles away at the opposite end of the U.S.-Mexico border. They are often released from custody at unusual times of day in completely unfamiliar areas where they have no family or other support system. The practice is supposed to deter further border crossing attempts, but instead it subjects migrants to crime and danger.

In 2011, the Alien Transfer Exit Program affected an estimated one-fifth of migrants detained by Border Patrol along the southwest border. That’s because ATEP ramped up under the Obama administration as a way to handle the spike in Mexican migrants attempting to enter the United States.

That story state
s the Obama administration dumped the males in an inconvenient location but does not indicate where they dumped the remainder of the family. In fact it gives no indication that the remainder of the family was detained at all or was ever with the illegal immigrants at any time during their stay in America. While I have no horse in this race in comparing Obama and Trump, it does seem to me that you've been taken in by a headline.

what the story shows is the hypocrisy of the leftists in america. plain and simple. your choice to agree with it or not. but when obammy was president the practice didn't bother anyone. so what's changed?

The zero tolerance and separating kids when it’s not mandatory.
Imprisoning kids who are no threat to anyone on an industrial scale.


Obama was successful at controlling illegals according to your orange messiah.

 

[jc456]

The tactic here, obviously, is to lay it ALL on Trump, even though things were already bad enough.
As usual, both parties fail us, and as usual, they just point the finger at the other guys.

Name one jail that puts children in with adults.

Why?
.

can you? That was a great post.

Can't think of any, and that has nothing to do with my point.
.

who cares about your point, you never answered the post you responded to, you asked a question to question. how white of you.

 

[jc456]

Does anyone remember any of the boards libs starting any threads and being outraged, years ago about the issue of separating families during Obama's presidency ?



Before Jeff Sessions Separated Immigrant Families, Obama Did It
May 8, 2018, 6:16pm Tina Vasquez

A program that detains male Mexican migrants near the border and repatriates them far from their area of origin ramped up under the Obama administration—and often led to family separation.


The Alien Transfer Exit Program

The United States since 2008 has had a policy called the Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP), which detains male Mexican migrants near the border and, instead of repatriating them to their area of origin, leaves them hundreds—and sometimes thousands—of miles away at the opposite end of the U.S.-Mexico border. They are often released from custody at unusual times of day in completely unfamiliar areas where they have no family or other support system. The practice is supposed to deter further border crossing attempts, but instead it subjects migrants to crime and danger.

In 2011, the Alien Transfer Exit Program affected an estimated one-fifth of migrants detained by Border Patrol along the southwest border. That’s because ATEP ramped up under the Obama administration as a way to handle the spike in Mexican migrants attempting to enter the United States.

That story state
s the Obama administration dumped the males in an inconvenient location but does not indicate where they dumped the remainder of the family. In fact it gives no indication that the remainder of the family was detained at all or was ever with the illegal immigrants at any time during their stay in America. While I have no horse in this race in comparing Obama and Trump, it does seem to me that you've been taken in by a headline.

what the story shows is the hypocrisy of the leftists in america. plain and simple. your choice to agree with it or not. but when obammy was president the practice didn't bother anyone. so what's changed?

The zero tolerance and separating kids when it’s not mandatory.
Imprisoning kids who are no threat to anyone on an industrial scale.


Obama was successful at controlling illegals according to your orange messiah.

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dude, I give two shits about your obammy and trump's comments. you all want a solution, it has been given, build the wall and this goes away. and you all fight against the wall, so you all must be ok with separating children from parents.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump is just goofy.

 

[jc456]

What are they supposed to do, people?

Not act like ass holes. Just because we can act like ass holes.

So do you suggest ignoring law?
Give me an actual solution and save your partisan rhetoric for a dumbfuck.

Trump has a solution, build a wall. He builds the wall this goes away. not sure why everyone wishes to detain children rather than save them.

 

[candycorn]

Trump is just goofy.

 

[jc456]

What are they supposed to do, people?

Not act like ass holes. Just because we can act like ass holes.

So do you suggest ignoring law?
Give me an actual solution and save your partisan rhetoric for a dumbfuck.

The government ignores laws all the time; for example, the Feds allow states to sell pot even though there is a federal law against it. True or false fuckface?

So your "solution" to this "problem" is "ignore law"

Get the fk outta here

they've all said as much. they want open borders dude. they don't want a country.

 

[jc456]

Trump is just goofy.

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build a wall it goes away.

 

[jasonnfree]

If Mexico would hurry up and build that damn wall, we wouldn't be having this problem. Remember, a big beautiful wall and who's gonna pay for it? MEXICO!!!! USA USA USA

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

so it's a very simple question. why didn't it bother you when obammy was president and now it does? come deary give the class an answer.

It did bother them -- which is why most progressives laughed when republicans called Obama a radical leftist -- he was anything but -- he was not progressive ENOUGH --

Also, to believe Obama did anything to the extent of what is currently happening -- is comical. Remember when conservatives cried about catch and release -- that is when Obama elected not to separate the families and instead released them?

Also, why were you Trump lovers not cheering from the highest mountain if you feel Obama was doing the same thing then? Because all I heard you conservatives say was that Obama was doing nothing to stop illegal immigration --

Cant have it both ways -- unless you suffer from cognitive dissonance -- which most cult members are -- and like Bob Corker said, trump lovers are a cult.

 

[jc456]

17 year old American girl in Texas separated from her family, when a drunk ass illegal killed her and her father. Where's the outrage?

How about Kate Steinle?

 

[jc456]

so it's a very simple question. why didn't it bother you when obammy was president and now it does? come deary give the class an answer.

It did bother them -- which is why most progressives laughed when republicans called Obama a radical leftist -- he was anything but -- he was not progressive ENOUGH --

Also, to believe Obama did anything to the extent of what is currently happening -- is comical. Remember when conservatives cried about catch and release -- that is when Obama elected not to separate the families and instead released them?

Also, why were you Trump lovers not cheering from the highest mountain if you feel Obama was doing the same thing then? Because all I heard you conservatives say was that Obama was doing nothing to stop illegal immigration --

Cant have it both ways -- unless you suffer from cognitive dissonance -- which most cult members are -- and like Bob Corker said, trump lovers are a cult.

no the left didn't. At least you answered it. ignorantly and stoopidly, but you answered. Build a wall and this goes away.

 

[candycorn]

It's pointless, I know, since there is no active listening ability where conservatives are concerned.

Obama did separate kids from parents but not as a hard and fast policy. Sometimes they did, some times (most times according to reports) they did not.
Trump is doing it as a hard and fast policy. So much so, a new center in El Paso is being opened to hold, I believe 4,100 boys. For how long? Nobody knows.

Those are simply the facts of the matter.

The really sad thing is that once they really ratchet up the body count….this will be remembered as the good old days. Soon there will be no room for the 1” thick mat and thermal saran wrap blanket:

 

[Moonglow]

so it's a very simple question. why didn't it bother you when obammy was president and now it does? come deary give the class an answer.

It did bother them -- which is why most progressives laughed when republicans called Obama a radical leftist -- he was anything but -- he was not progressive ENOUGH --

Also, to believe Obama did anything to the extent of what is currently happening -- is comical. Remember when conservatives cried about catch and release -- that is when Obama elected not to separate the families and instead released them?

Also, why were you Trump lovers not cheering from the highest mountain if you feel Obama was doing the same thing then? Because all I heard you conservatives say was that Obama was doing nothing to stop illegal immigration --

Cant have it both ways -- unless you suffer from cognitive dissonance -- which most cult members are -- and like Bob Corker said, trump lovers are a cult.

They be a cult of personality.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

And?

You do understand that both dynamics can't be true unless you are a partisan hack who is devoid of any type of intellectual honesty -- i.e. a Trump supporter