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The crime laid out in the law I posted was what Trump was charged with. So that’s the crime. The trial determined his guilt or innocence relating to that crime after both sides presented their cases.It looks like this is only valid when a crime has taken place though. Using money for your own campaign that you earned (if that's indeed what happened that is) is not a crime.
Haha, you knew it was going to get spicy when you started the threadUgh!! I'm trying SO had to keep myself from losing it with you guys but so far I still don't understand where the crime was and I'm just getting frustrated now. Especially since you guys are both friends of mine on here.
Back when Christian disapproved of men fucking round on all their wives, it was looked at as unrepentant sin, a definite sign of the worst character imaginable, and a politician that cannot be trusted to honor vows before God, was certainly not to be trusted to honor an oath of office. Officers have be kicked out of the military for this reason, and the president is commander and chief of the military. In local elections, credible sex scandal goeth before the big loss. Lying about it, is further proof, as it is like eating peanuts, you can't tell just one, so a proven liar is not to be trusted, as you do not know what they will lie about next.Again how does the covering up affect the election?
Haha, you knew it was going to get spicy when you started the thread
Let me make sure I understand your question. You acknowledge that Trump was charged for a real crime, right? I posted the NY state statute, and cited Cohens arrest… but your issue is you don’t think there is evidence that Trump was involved in that crime. Is that correct?
Back when Christian disapproved of men fucking round on all their wives, it was looked at as unrepentant sin, a definite sign of the worst character imaginable, and a politician that cannot be trusted to honor vows before God, was certainly not to be trusted to honor an oath of office. Officers have be kicked out of the military for this reason, and the president is commander and chief of the military. In local elections, credible sex scandal goeth before the big loss. Lying about it, is further proof, as it is like eating peanuts, you can't tell just one, so a proven liar is not to be trusted, as you do not know what they will lie about next.
Maybe you are different and would still think well of a husband that repeatedly cheated on you, but I doubt it.
Although, it is more popular and accepted now, so probably something you have to put up with, even Christians don't mind, and we see sex scandals in the churches and church leadership with alarming frequency.
Are you of the "the rich and powerful are just like that, not being able to control their glands, so it's ok) crowd?
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That's pretty much all I can think of actually. So, anyways, how did Trump violate the law by having sex with a porn star? Also, how does this even have anything to do with falsifying business records?
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That's pretty much all I can think of actually. So, anyways, how did Trump violate the law by having sex with a porn star? Also, how does this even have anything to do with falsifying business records?
If you don't understand now, you are probably not going to. Like I said, he got himself breaking the law, in the cover up, whether it needed to be covered up or not, and the money was run through corporate accounts as a business expense, falsifying business records. It is a law, you are not allowed to freely break in New York, possibly because they are the financial capital of the US, if not the world. What else do you want to know?True, but I really don't want to blow up at either one of you but it's getting to the point of feeling like I'm about to pull my hair out. My question right now doesn't have to do with whether or not Trump did what he is accused of doing, it's I just don't understand where the crime is as that is Trump's own money now that he is using towards his campaign so where is the crime? That is if he actually did it.
It would be different if somebody else was paying for him to win the election as that has to be illegal, but if the affair with Stormy Daniels actually happened that is his own money. Does that make sense now?
How is any of that relevant to my question?
If you don't understand now, you are probably not going to. Like I said, he got himself breaking the law, in the cover up, whether it needed to be covered up or not, and the money was run through corporate accounts as a business expense, falsifying business records. It is a law, you are not allowed to freely break in New York, possibly because they are the financial capital of the US, if not the world. What else do you want to know?
You can contribute as much as you like to your own campaign if you declare it. If you don't, it is against campaign finance laws, especially if you decide to count money spent on the campaign as legitimate business expense to be counted against state and federal taxes.I want to know why it's a law that you can't use your own money to help you with your campaign because that's a load of BS right there.
Btw a HUGE thank you to you and Slade3200 for actually wanting to try and answer my questions. If more liberals were like that we would have less problems as how freaking hard is that? Or even a simple I don't know. Jeez!!
You can contribute as much as you like to your own campaign if you declare it.
He says it was not a campaign contribution or expense. He cannot legally have both ways, and when you try, it is and will be illegal.So then what's the problem? Isn't that what he allegedly did? He didn't contribute to anybody else's campaign.
When running a political campaign there are laws around where funds come from and how they are disclosed. Cohen paid the $130k to stormy for Trump and then was reimbursed by Trump in a manner to hide the payments and skirt the process. That violated the law. Cohen was caught and arrested for it a few years ago while Trump was president. This latest trial was NY state prosecuting Trump for his part in that situation. The law was clearly laid out to the jury and the evidence presented. So that’s the law he was accused of violating and whether he broke it or not was what the trial coveredTrue, but I really don't want to blow up at either one of you but it's getting to the point of feeling like I'm about to pull my hair out. My question right now doesn't have to do with whether or not Trump did what he is accused of doing, it's I just don't understand where the crime is as that is Trump's own money now that he is using towards his campaign so where is the crime? That is if he actually did it.
It would be different if somebody else was paying for him to win the election as that has to be illegal, but if the affair with Stormy Daniels actually happened that is his own money. Does that make sense now?
He says it was not a campaign contribution or expense. He cannot legally have both ways, and when you try, it is and will be illegal.
When running a political campaign there are laws around where funds come from and how they are disclosed. Cohen paid the $130k to stormy for Trump and then was reimbursed by Trump in a manner to hide the payments and skirt the process. That violated the law. Cohen was caught and arrested for it a few years ago while Trump was president. This latest trial was NY state prosecuting Trump for his part in that situation. The law was clearly laid out to the jury and the evidence presented. So that’s the law he was accused of violating and whether he broke it or not was what the trial covered
Having sex with a porn star was not one of the charges and is not against the law.Rules:
1. Stay on topic. (This means no deflection in changing the subject. Even if you can't answer a question.)
2. No lying and saying that a poster said something that they didn't and take their words out of context.
That's pretty much all I can think of actually. So, anyways, how did Trump violate the law by having sex with a porn star? Also, how does this even have anything to do with falsifying business records?
Having sex with a porn star was not one of the charges and is not against the law.
They trying the John Edwards thing. But John Edwards used campaign money to pay off. Trump self funding so that is not legit.Then why did they make it such a big deal at the trial? Oh yeah and supposedly Daniels "blacked out" yet how did she know that Trump fucked her then? Also why is she so traumatized when she's a freaking porn star? So yeah, many things about this trial aren't adding up but I was just trying to figure out if Trump is guilty then what exactly is he guilty of?
So far Slade3200 is the only one who is helping me get to the bottom of this if there actually are some kind of campaign donation rules or something as that I was not aware of. Although I still don't understand how there has to be rules as long as you're donating to your own campaign and not trying to cheat by paying for somebody else to win.
