Zone1 Do these verses go together?

[hobelim]

It's hilarious watching you backtrack.

Backtrack? You really are as clueless as a corpse without the breath of life.

First you say that Jewish people don't believe in hell and I agreed that they don't believe in what you define as hell and posted a quote from your link showing that they do believe in a hell but not in your comic book way. Then you posted the same quote including the clarification that they see it as sort of a washing machine to which I quoted Jesus and described his definition of hell.

Then you said both Christians and Jews believe that people can cleanse their sins to which I said

"And I believe that too, but things don't look so promising for you as you cling to your irrational superstitions, lies, idolatry, sorcery, perjury, false witness, and murders like a baby clings to its blankie. You lack substance in the fundamental disciplines of honesty and humility foundational to rise to eternal life out of the filth and stench of Gehenna where you still feast on the superstitious rubbish discarded by higher intelligences as your own mind, your very soul, rots from within."

So its not a place of eternal torment where unbelievers in your bullshit suffer for eternity and its not a washing machine because it hasn't cleansed anyone in thousands of years, its a smoldering garbage dump, an empty state of mind, the absence of God, intelligence, truth, peace, love, and understanding, where foul and loathsome creatures have been condemned to exist without life.

Feasting on bullshit, discarded by higher intelligences, imagining they have been blessed by God.

 

[hobelim]

You really are a fraud.

Says the guy who openly sets aside Divine Law to worship and eat a lifeless matzo MADE BY HUMAN HANDS for spiritual life and misleads others to do the same which amounts to MURDER, A sin, murder by idolatry, the abomination that causes desolation, under penalty of death.

You might not realize this (go figure) but YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL and have been for decades.
And your filthy soul has not been cleansed. You have been abandoned by God to your delusions

You defy the law of God religiously so, YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY

 

[ding]

Backtrack? You really are as clueless as a corpse without the breath of life.

First you say that Jewish people don't believe in hell and I agreed that they don't believe in what you define as hell and posted a quote from your link showing that they do believe in a hell but not in your comic book way. Then you posted the same quote including the clarification that they see it as sort of a washing machine to which I quoted Jesus and described his definition of hell.

Then you said both Christians and Jews believe that people can cleanse their sins to which I said

"And I believe that too, but things don't look so promising for you as you cling to your irrational superstitions, lies, idolatry, sorcery, perjury, false witness, and murders like a baby clings to its blankie. You lack substance in the fundamental disciplines of honesty and humility foundational to rise to eternal life out of the filth and stench of Gehenna where you still feast on the superstitious rubbish discarded by higher intelligences as your own mind, your very soul, rots from within."

So its not a place of eternal torment where unbelievers in your bullshit suffer for eternity and its not a washing machine because it hasn't cleansed anyone in thousands of years, its a smoldering garbage dump, an empty state of mind, the absence of God, intelligence, truth, peace, love, and understanding, where foul and loathsome creatures have been condemned to exist without life.

Feasting on bullshit, discarded by higher intelligences, imagining they have been blessed by God.

You really are an angry person.

 

[ding]

Says the guy who openly sets aside Divine Law to worship and eat a lifeless matzo MADE BY HUMAN HANDS for spiritual life and misleads others to do the same which amounts to MURDER, A sin, murder by idolatry, the abomination that causes desolation, under penalty of death.

You might not realize this (go figure) but YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL and have been for decades.
And your filthy soul has not been cleansed. You have been abandoned by God to your delusions

You defy the law of God religiously so, YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY

Go evangelize someone else, ya gay, secular angry Jew.

 

[hobelim]

You really are an angry person.

No, I am a wild and crazy guy just passing time, laughing my ass off at your inability to be honest

or

I am a childless cat lady doing my patriotic duty to insure the future rights of childless cat ladies.

or

I am a secular humanist, insuring there will never be a religious theocracy in America just because

or

I am a gay Jewish man flipping out over your homophobic rants and perverse religious hypocrisy.

or

I am an atheist just fucking with you because you are such a sanctimonious pretentious asshole.


Take your pick. You will never be right. There is only so much your tiny little mind can handle.

Pssst! You can't win with a losing hand.


So before you place your bet, before post time, before its too late, do yourself a favor and consider the highly unlikely impossible HARD TO SWALLOW possibility that I am just right.

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY. YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD AND IN HELL.

 

[ding]

No, I am a wild and crazy guy just passing time, laughing my ass off at your inability to be honest

or

I am a childless cat lady doing my patriotic duty to insure the future rights of childless cat ladies.

or

I am a secular humanist, insuring there will never be a religious theocracy in America just because

or

I am a gay Jewish man flipping out over your homophobic rants and perverse religious hypocrisy.

or

I am an atheist just fucking with you because you are such a sanctimonious pretentious asshole.


Take your pick. You will never be right. There is only so much your tiny little mind can handle.

Pssst! You can't win with a losing hand.


So before you place your bet, before post time, before its too late, do yourself a favor and consider the highly unlikely impossible HARD TO SWALLOW possibility that I am just right.

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY. YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD AND IN HELL.

I think you are sick in the head.

 

[hobelim]

I think you are sick in the head.

Oh My! That is very disconcerting! Coming from such a dedicated religious actor and lying fraud.

Woe is me!

What must I do to be "saved"?

 

[ding]

Oh My! That is very disconcerting! Coming from such a dedicated religious actor and lying fraud.

Woe is me!

What must I do to be "saved"?

If you saw a mad man on a corner ranting and raving at everyone that passes by that's what you look like to everyone here.

No one thinks badly of the people the mad man assaults and the people he assaults don't give his rants a second thought. So by all means keep making my point.

 

[ding]

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY. YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD AND IN HELL.

I'm at peace. You are the one who seems to be in hell.

 

[hobelim]

I'm at peace.

Sure you are. Thats why you're coming undone, stalking my every post like a deranged zombie, with the blood of creepy creatures that creep dripping from your unclean lips, who sets aside the Law of God to seek spiritual life from a lifeless matzo made by human hands, even though your own holy book teaches that your vile and degrading practice of idolatry results in death, a curse.

Dying every single time you brazenly defy the law of God at mass, never finding peace in death.

 

[BreezeWood]

I wasn't speaking, I was asking. I asked you 4 pertinent questions, and you didn't answer one of them.
On what do you base your knowledge of Jesus? You seem to know all the people in the desert religion, yet your narrative of those people is contrary to what the Bible say about them. Is that a correct assumption? If not the Bible, then where did you hear about these people?

i have replied to your spoken questions - jesus reiterated the heavenly religion of antiquity granted a&e to become equals to those in the heavens for admission to the everlasting that itself was reinforced at the time of noah -

jesus's message, in the 1st century is liberation theology, self determination the refutation of judaism, false commandments, heredity idolatry - no where found in the 4th century christian bible.

provide the archive of all the documents they used to write their 4th century document required to be preserved for authenticity - of which not even that, the primary document written has been preserved and is the state religion of the roman empire - the rcc.

 

[ding]

Sure you are.

More than you will ever be. Just look at your rants.

 

[hobelim]

More than you will ever be. Just look at your rants.

Rants? Like this one?



"Says the guy who openly sets aside Divine Law to worship and eat a lifeless matzo MADE BY HUMAN HANDS for spiritual life and misleads others to do the same which amounts to MURDER, A sin, murder by idolatry, the abomination that causes desolation, under penalty of death.

You might not realize this (go figure) but YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL and have been for decades.
And your filthy soul has not been cleansed. You have been abandoned by God to your delusions

You defy the law of God religiously so, YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY!"



No truth there? No valid points made? Nothing of substance or value to take to the bank?

You pretending that you have found peace defying the law of God at mass and me pointing out your folly is an expression of anger? Not pity? Even though your delusions don't affect me? At all.

You can tell yourself that if it helps ease the terrible pain of the burning as the truth comes to light

Its a damn shame. All you had to do was admit the obvious. Now what can be done for you? Nada

 

[ding]

Rants? Like this one?



"Says the guy who openly sets aside Divine Law to worship and eat a lifeless matzo MADE BY HUMAN HANDS for spiritual life and misleads others to do the same which amounts to MURDER, A sin, murder by idolatry, the abomination that causes desolation, under penalty of death.

You might not realize this (go figure) but YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL and have been for decades.
And your filthy soul has not been cleansed. You have been abandoned by God to your delusions

You defy the law of God religiously so, YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY!"



No truth there? No valid points made? Nothing of substance or value to take to the bank?

You pretending that you have found peace defying the law of God at mass and me pointing out your folly is an expression of anger? Not pity? Even though your delusions don't affect me? At all.

You can tell yourself that if it helps ease the terrible pain of the burning as the truth comes to light

Its a damn shame. All you had to do was admit the obvious. Now what can be done for you? Nada

Yes, your rants have lost all effect. Everyone has been desensitized to your level of crazy.

 

[The Irish Ram]

jesus reiterated the heavenly religion of antiquity granted a&e to become equals to those in the heavens for admission to the everlasting that itself was reinforced at the time of noah -

Jesus who? Did you use parts of a desert religion for your introduction to Jesus? If not, where did you first hear about the man? Where can I read about Jesus' self-determination without picking up a Bible? Where did Jesus reiterate his heavenly religion?
Noah who? The only place I have ever seen Noah referred to is in the desert religion. Where did you first hear about Noah, aside from the desert religion?

 

[hobelim]

Everyone has been desensitized to your level of crazy.

Everyone? lol...Cool.

When they all recover from the shock maybe they will realize that they have been the crazy ones.

Maybe not. Oh well. Even so now anyone can obtain salvation. I have shown how its done. Its easy

The high way of the Lord has been made straight. There is no longer any excuse for your sins.

What was hidden has been revealed. What was closed has been opened. It can't be undone.

My hands have been washed clean.

 

[ding]

Everyone? lol...Cool.

When they all recover from the shock maybe they will realize that they have been the crazy ones.

Maybe not. Oh well. Even so now anyone can obtain salvation. I have shown how its done. Its easy

The high way of the Lord has been made straight. There is no longer any excuse for your sins.

What was hidden has been revealed. What was closed has been opened. It can't be undone.

My hands have been washed clean.

your rants have lost all effect.

 

[kjw47]

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; ...

Matthew 10:35-36
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Are unbelievers today the "seed" of the Devil?

Matthew is speaking-spiritual division.
The woman = The anointed bride=144,000=The little flock-her seed =the true followers.
Thy seed( satans) = all unbelievers and babylon the great.

 

[Foxfyre]

I believe that most of humanity is under the influence of Satan and the demons, although most don't realize it.

Maybe but I don't often sense the presence of pure evil that I associate with Satan. Usually it is just wrong or indifferent or brainwashed or lazy thinking due to what Michael Savage used to described as a 'mental disorder.' But every now and then I do sense the presence of that evil and my skin crawls.

 

[BreezeWood]

Where can I read about Jesus' self-determination without picking up a Bible?

you will never read your way into the everlasting ...

- passed down through the centuries by those that gave their lives during the 1st century events before their sacrifice, jesus among them from the very beginning - their goal of self determination being equal to those already in heaven than a religion of servitude and denial ...

provide the archive of all the documents they used to write their 4th century document required to be preserved for authenticity - of which not even that, the primary document written has been preserved and is the state religion of the roman empire - the rcc.

you seem immune to respond to simplest of inquiries, one must wonder.