Do voters understand that GOP economics is a catastrophe in the making?

[Brain357]

Let’s put aside the merits of leftwing American politics. We’ll just agree to disagree on that for now. Let’s just discuss the viability of GOP economics which is the fantasy of trickledown/supply side economics. Sure that shit sounds good until - you know - one thinks about it from a logical standpoint. Giving corporations more capital to sell products doesn’t somehow translate into more demand from the consumers. That isn’t how economics work. Our economy is a CONSUMER driven economy. It depends on people spending money. That is how it has ALWAYS worked. Corporations in this day age are wealthier than ever before. That means that when they get big tax breaks, they don’t invest the money they save. Why? Because it’s easier to just keep it. Why invest in labor if they are already wealthier than ever before?

Doesn’t it bother republicans that the GOP does NOTHING for the middle class? A strong middle class is how you keep this economy viable because they are the biggest CONSUMERS. A time will come when this economy will fail because of GOP economics. Rich people can’t stay rich if the wages of the middle class and poor remain way behind on inflation.

How can one possibly justify GOP policy?

Trump economics as opposed to standardized republican economics is based on bringing jobs back to America

that beats handouts from the wipe-every-nose democats any day

No they don't. He has done nothing to do that other than say it. As far as actual actions go he has done nothing.

He likes to talk.

He’s done more to bring back jobs from china and mexico than any democrat in living memory

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

 

[Mac-7]

Cut spending to fund spending. Yeah, that is kind of how it works. Cut enough to fund the new expense.

Yeah, we certainly can't cut any social programs. We all know our social programs are run extremely efficiently with little or no waste.

Our entire military excursions are a waste.

You are against national defense?

We are harming national defense with what we are doing.

I agree in principal

we have been in afghanistan for 19 years and that is 18 1/2 years too long

but we need a strong military that might need to fight overseas sometimes

Being spread all around the world makes it weaker.

If you think its wise to become isolationist, fortress America you are mistaken

 

[Mac-7]

Let’s put aside the merits of leftwing American politics. We’ll just agree to disagree on that for now. Let’s just discuss the viability of GOP economics which is the fantasy of trickledown/supply side economics. Sure that shit sounds good until - you know - one thinks about it from a logical standpoint. Giving corporations more capital to sell products doesn’t somehow translate into more demand from the consumers. That isn’t how economics work. Our economy is a CONSUMER driven economy. It depends on people spending money. That is how it has ALWAYS worked. Corporations in this day age are wealthier than ever before. That means that when they get big tax breaks, they don’t invest the money they save. Why? Because it’s easier to just keep it. Why invest in labor if they are already wealthier than ever before?

Doesn’t it bother republicans that the GOP does NOTHING for the middle class? A strong middle class is how you keep this economy viable because they are the biggest CONSUMERS. A time will come when this economy will fail because of GOP economics. Rich people can’t stay rich if the wages of the middle class and poor remain way behind on inflation.

How can one possibly justify GOP policy?

Trump economics as opposed to standardized republican economics is based on bringing jobs back to America

that beats handouts from the wipe-every-nose democats any day

No they don't. He has done nothing to do that other than say it. As far as actual actions go he has done nothing.

He likes to talk.

He’s done more to bring back jobs from china and mexico than any democrat in living memory

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

 

[pknopp]

Our entire military excursions are a waste.

You are against national defense?

We are harming national defense with what we are doing.

I agree in principal

we have been in afghanistan for 19 years and that is 18 1/2 years too long

but we need a strong military that might need to fight overseas sometimes

Being spread all around the world makes it weaker.

If you think its wise to become isolationist, fortress America you are mistaken

You can engage with other countries without attacking them.

 

[pknopp]

Let’s put aside the merits of leftwing American politics. We’ll just agree to disagree on that for now. Let’s just discuss the viability of GOP economics which is the fantasy of trickledown/supply side economics. Sure that shit sounds good until - you know - one thinks about it from a logical standpoint. Giving corporations more capital to sell products doesn’t somehow translate into more demand from the consumers. That isn’t how economics work. Our economy is a CONSUMER driven economy. It depends on people spending money. That is how it has ALWAYS worked. Corporations in this day age are wealthier than ever before. That means that when they get big tax breaks, they don’t invest the money they save. Why? Because it’s easier to just keep it. Why invest in labor if they are already wealthier than ever before?

Doesn’t it bother republicans that the GOP does NOTHING for the middle class? A strong middle class is how you keep this economy viable because they are the biggest CONSUMERS. A time will come when this economy will fail because of GOP economics. Rich people can’t stay rich if the wages of the middle class and poor remain way behind on inflation.

How can one possibly justify GOP policy?

Trump economics as opposed to standardized republican economics is based on bringing jobs back to America

that beats handouts from the wipe-every-nose democats any day

No they don't. He has done nothing to do that other than say it. As far as actual actions go he has done nothing.

He likes to talk.

He’s done more to bring back jobs from china and mexico than any democrat in living memory

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

The Chinese did nothing. Trump did it.

 

[Brain357]

Let’s put aside the merits of leftwing American politics. We’ll just agree to disagree on that for now. Let’s just discuss the viability of GOP economics which is the fantasy of trickledown/supply side economics. Sure that shit sounds good until - you know - one thinks about it from a logical standpoint. Giving corporations more capital to sell products doesn’t somehow translate into more demand from the consumers. That isn’t how economics work. Our economy is a CONSUMER driven economy. It depends on people spending money. That is how it has ALWAYS worked. Corporations in this day age are wealthier than ever before. That means that when they get big tax breaks, they don’t invest the money they save. Why? Because it’s easier to just keep it. Why invest in labor if they are already wealthier than ever before?

Doesn’t it bother republicans that the GOP does NOTHING for the middle class? A strong middle class is how you keep this economy viable because they are the biggest CONSUMERS. A time will come when this economy will fail because of GOP economics. Rich people can’t stay rich if the wages of the middle class and poor remain way behind on inflation.

How can one possibly justify GOP policy?

Trump economics as opposed to standardized republican economics is based on bringing jobs back to America

that beats handouts from the wipe-every-nose democats any day

No they don't. He has done nothing to do that other than say it. As far as actual actions go he has done nothing.

He likes to talk.

He’s done more to bring back jobs from china and mexico than any democrat in living memory

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel is having huge layoffs. You seem to ignore facts.

 

[Mac-7]

You are against national defense?

We are harming national defense with what we are doing.

I agree in principal

we have been in afghanistan for 19 years and that is 18 1/2 years too long

but we need a strong military that might need to fight overseas sometimes

Being spread all around the world makes it weaker.

If you think its wise to become isolationist, fortress America you are mistaken

You can engage with other countries without attacking them.

I agree

as I said the 19 year war in afghanistan lasted 18 1/2 years too long

and the iraq was was a total mistake along with US destabilization of libya and syria

but we have commitments in the far east that must be defended so the issue is not a simple one

 

[Mac-7]

Trump economics as opposed to standardized republican economics is based on bringing jobs back to America

that beats handouts from the wipe-every-nose democats any day

No they don't. He has done nothing to do that other than say it. As far as actual actions go he has done nothing.

He likes to talk.

He’s done more to bring back jobs from china and mexico than any democrat in living memory

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

The Chinese did nothing. Trump did it.

You are mistaken

they tried to hurt American farmers in hopes that would put pressure on trump to ease up on china

 

[pknopp]

We are harming national defense with what we are doing.

I agree in principal

we have been in afghanistan for 19 years and that is 18 1/2 years too long

but we need a strong military that might need to fight overseas sometimes

Being spread all around the world makes it weaker.

If you think its wise to become isolationist, fortress America you are mistaken

You can engage with other countries without attacking them.

I agree

as I said the 19 year war in afghanistan lasted 18 1/2 years too long

and the iraq was was a total mistake along with US destabilization of libya and syria

but we have commitments in the far east that must be defended so the issue is not a simple one

It's quite simple. By taking your position gets us a never ending involvement in places like Afghanistan. You know that.

 

[pknopp]

No they don't. He has done nothing to do that other than say it. As far as actual actions go he has done nothing.

He likes to talk.

He’s done more to bring back jobs from china and mexico than any democrat in living memory

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

The Chinese did nothing. Trump did it.

You are mistsken

they tried to hurt American farmers in hopes that would put pressure on trump to ease up on china

They simply retaliated in kind. That's how these things work.

 

[Brain357]

He’s done more to bring back jobs from china and mexico than any democrat in living memory

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

The Chinese did nothing. Trump did it.

You are mistsken

they tried to hurt American farmers in hopes that would put pressure on trump to ease up on china

They simply retaliated in kind. That's how these things work.

Tariffs never work. Repubs are really stupid to think they will when they have a long history of failure.

 

[Mac-7]

Trump economics as opposed to standardized republican economics is based on bringing jobs back to America

that beats handouts from the wipe-every-nose democats any day

No they don't. He has done nothing to do that other than say it. As far as actual actions go he has done nothing.

He likes to talk.

He’s done more to bring back jobs from china and mexico than any democrat in living memory

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel is having huge layoffs. You seem to ignore facts.

Were those steel products being exported to china?

no

So can you explain why the layoffs happened?

 

[toobfreak]

Let’s put aside the merits of leftwing American politics. How can one possibly justify GOP policy?

To save us from the even worse DNC policy?

The Democrats' Economic Message Is Preposterous | RealClearPolitics!

 

[Mac-7]

I agree in principal

we have been in afghanistan for 19 years and that is 18 1/2 years too long

but we need a strong military that might need to fight overseas sometimes

Being spread all around the world makes it weaker.

If you think its wise to become isolationist, fortress America you are mistaken

You can engage with other countries without attacking them.

I agree

as I said the 19 year war in afghanistan lasted 18 1/2 years too long

and the iraq was was a total mistake along with US destabilization of libya and syria

but we have commitments in the far east that must be defended so the issue is not a simple one

It's quite simple. By taking your position gets us a never ending involvement in places like Afghanistan. You know that.

What is my position as you see it?

 

[Mac-7]

He’s done more to bring back jobs from china and mexico than any democrat in living memory

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

The Chinese did nothing. Trump did it.

You are mistsken

they tried to hurt American farmers in hopes that would put pressure on trump to ease up on china

They simply retaliated in kind. That's how these things work.

And trump parried their thrust by protecting the farmers

 

[pknopp]

Being spread all around the world makes it weaker.

If you think its wise to become isolationist, fortress America you are mistaken

You can engage with other countries without attacking them.

I agree

as I said the 19 year war in afghanistan lasted 18 1/2 years too long

and the iraq was was a total mistake along with US destabilization of libya and syria

but we have commitments in the far east that must be defended so the issue is not a simple one

It's quite simple. By taking your position gets us a never ending involvement in places like Afghanistan. You know that.

What is my position as you see it?

Whatever you have to say to defend your party.

 

[pknopp]

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

The Chinese did nothing. Trump did it.

You are mistsken

they tried to hurt American farmers in hopes that would put pressure on trump to ease up on china

They simply retaliated in kind. That's how these things work.

And trump parried their thrust by protecting the farmers

Taking money from one person to give to another. In other scenario's what is that called?

 

[Mac-7]

He has hurt manufacturing. Steel has lots of layoffs. He’s done more damage than good. How about that huge farmer bailout?

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

The Chinese did nothing. Trump did it.

You are mistsken

they tried to hurt American farmers in hopes that would put pressure on trump to ease up on china

They simply retaliated in kind. That's how these things work.

Tariffs never work. Repubs are really stupid to think they will when they have a long history of failure.

If tariffs never work then why does every country have tariffs?

this is not a new invention of trump

 

[Mac-7]

The chinese targeted farmers as a vulnerability and trump responded

The Chinese did nothing. Trump did it.

You are mistsken

they tried to hurt American farmers in hopes that would put pressure on trump to ease up on china

They simply retaliated in kind. That's how these things work.

And trump parried their thrust by protecting the farmers

Taking money from one person to give to another. In other scenario's what is that called?

I compare it to the japanese attack on Pearl Harbor

thankfully FDR did not dismiss it as a local problem for the Hawaiians to deal with

 

[Mac-7]

If you think its wise to become isolationist, fortress America you are mistaken

You can engage with other countries without attacking them.

I agree

as I said the 19 year war in afghanistan lasted 18 1/2 years too long

and the iraq was was a total mistake along with US destabilization of libya and syria

but we have commitments in the far east that must be defended so the issue is not a simple one

It's quite simple. By taking your position gets us a never ending involvement in places like Afghanistan. You know that.

What is my position as you see it?

Whatever you have to say to defend your party.

Thats a non reply