Zone1 Do you believe this account of Hell from a 20th century Catholic nun?

[notmyfault2020]

Hell is real for those who believe it is real, that’s my belief.

Hell is real, period. Again, God has revealed to me that Hell exists. But knowing that I am just a schmuck on the internet to ... other schmucks on the internet...

How about Our Lady of Fatima who not only mentioned Hell but showed the children a glimpse of it?

 

[notmyfault2020]

Sister Lucy of Fatima Describes the Vision of Hell | The Fatima Center

At Fatima, the Blessed Virgin Mary told the three child seers that many souls go to hell because they have no one to pray or make sacrifices for them. In her Memoirs, Sister Lucy describes the vision of hell that Our Lady showed the children at Fatima: "She opened Her hands once more, as She

fatima.org

 

[notmyfault2020]

From the above mentioned site RE Fatima:

Lucia gave the details of this extraordinary apparition. With the unbounded love of a mother bending over her sick child, wishing to strengthen and console the children in the truth of the apparitions, the beautiful Lady engulfed the three in Her immense light and rested Her loving eyes on Lucia. The girl could not speak for joy. Jacinta prodded her, “Lucia, go ahead, speak to Her. She is already speaking to you.” So Lucia, looking up towards Our Lady, her eyes filled with loving devotion, asked, “What do You want of me?” “I want you to return here on the thirteenth of next month,” the Lady said. “Continue to say the Rosary every day in honor of Our Lady of the Rosary to obtain peace for the world and the end of the war; for only She can help you.” Lucia, thinking of her mother and the words of the Pastor, wishing to clear up the doubts of people, spoke again in her own childish manner, “Will You please tell us who You are and perform a miracle so that everyone will believe that You really appear to us?” 1 Comadre or co-mother; a term expressing the relationship between the natural mother of a child and the child’s god-mother. 30 “Continue to come here every month. In October, I will say who I am and what I desire and I will perform a miracle all shall see, so that they believe.” Then Lucia spoke of the petitions of the people. Our Lady answered, “Some I will cure and others not. As to the crippled boy, I will not cure him or take him out of his poverty, but he must say the Rosary every day with his family.”

 

[notmyfault2020]

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From Sister Lucia, one of the children at Fatima who saw the Virgin Mary (people around the 3 children could not see her). My words are in brackets (emphasis added)


“As Our Lady said these words,” Lucia later described the scenes, “She opened Her hands again as She had done the two previous months. The light reflecting from them seemed to penetrate into the earth, and we saw as if into a sea of fire, and immersed in that fire were devils and souls with human form, as if they were transparent black or bronze embers floating in the fire and swayed by the flames that issued from within themselves along with great clouds of smoke, falling upon every side just like the falling of sparks in great fires, without weight or equilibrium, amidst wailing and cries of pain and despair that horrified and shook us with terror. We could distinguish the devils by their horrible and repulsive figures of frightful and unknown animals, but transparent as the black coals in a fire.” Frightened, deathly pale, the little ones raised their eyes to Our Lady for help as Lucia cried out. “Oh... Our Lady!” Our Lady explained: “You have seen Hell — where the souls of poor sinners go. To save [souls from Hell] God wills to establish throughout the world the devotion to My Immaculate Heart. “If people will do what I tell you, many souls will be saved, and there will be peace. The war [WW I] is going to end. “But if they do not stop offending God, another and worse war will break out in the reign of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that it is the great sign that God gives you, that He is going to punish the world for its crimes by means of war, hunger, persecution of the Church and of the Holy Father. “To forestall this, I shall come to ask for the Consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart and the Communion of Reparation on the First Saturdays. “If they heed My requests, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace. If not, she shall spread her errors throughout the world, promoting wars and persecutions of the Church; the good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer [It is rumored that Pius XII was murdered by poison], various nations will be annihilated; in the end, My Immaculate Heart shall triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to Me, which will be converted, and some time of peace will be given to the world. “In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved etc.

 

[Leo123]

Hell is real, period. Again, God has revealed to me that Hell exists. But knowing that I am just a schmuck on the internet to ... other schmucks on the internet...

How about Our Lady of Fatima who not only mentioned Hell but showed the children a glimpse of it?

All I did was give my opinion. I’m not trying ro tell you or anyone what to believe.

 

[Concerned American]

so someone cowardly came here and voted but left no comment..

I guess that person thinks that whatever he or she doesn't believe in disappears...

wow... kind of delusional, I would say..

I don't believe ANYTHING that is professed by ANY organized religion in the world with the single possible exception of Buddhism. Every other religion has violated their prime directive in the name of those religions. Believe in US or WE'LL KILL YOU.

 

[Concerned American]

Why would anyone believe in such a God?

Just another way of controlling the minions through fear. Religious wars did that too.

 

[BackAgain]

Gee, what a shock!

Whoda thunk that??

Exactly. You’re catching on!

 

[ding]

I wouldn’t mind having a deeper faith. I’m just acknowledging that I don’t.

A lot of people see God like you do... asleep while they are going through their metaphorical storms of life.

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

 

[BackAgain]

A lot of people see God like you do... asleep while they are going through their metaphorical storms of life.

Rembrandt painted himself in his famous painting, "Christ in the Storm."

He's the one holding onto the mast for dear life.

In this account Jesus and the disciples were on the Sea of Galilee and a violent storm comes up suddenly. The Sea of Galilee is the lowest freshwater lake on earth at approximately 210 m (700 ft) below sea level. It is longer than it is wide. At its widest points, the lake measures 21 km (13 mi) from north to south and 12 km (7.5 mi) from east to west and is surrounded by hills. The elevation, shape and contour of the lake make it susceptible to storms. Violent storms do "roll" in there suddenly. They even have a name for it. They are called Sharkias.

"...Such storms result from differences in temperatures between the seacoast and the mountains beyond. The Sea of Galilee lies 680 feet below sea level. It is bounded by hills, especially on the east side where they reach 2000 feet high. These heights are a source of cool, dry air. In contrast, directly around the sea, the climate is semi-tropical with warm, moist air. The large difference in height between surrounding land and the sea causes large temperature and pressure changes. This results in strong winds dropping to the sea, funneling through the hills. The Sea of Galilee is small, and these winds may descend directly to the center of the lake with violent results. When the contrasting air masses meet, a storm can arise quickly and without warning. Small boats caught out on the sea are in immediate danger..."

In the account, Jesus is sleeping while His disciples are panicking. They couldn't understand how He could be sleeping while their lives were being threatened. That's how most people see God. He's not there when they are going through the storms of their lives.

God is a Master Gardner. He uses it all but does His best work when we are suffering. It's like pruning a bush. Some branches are thin and snap right off. Others are thicker and have to be sawed off. Some hurt more than others. At first it looks like crap. All sparse and twiggy, but then as the new growth occurs it comes in more full and looking better looking than before. He uses it all to progress us and for the one's who know how it works they have peace through the storms to the point they are not storms. But for everyone else they will be holding on for dear life like Rembrandt not understanding how God is working in their lives.

You got a bit of a preacher man in you, amigo.

 

[ding]

You got a bit of a preacher man in you, amigo.

Naw, not me. I like puzzles.

 

[BackAgain]

Naw, not me. I like puzzles.

Some good preacher men consider it a puzzle in how to bring a person to God by crafting a good sermon.

You can’t fool me.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Well, then I have to say I am concerned for your eternal soul. As it says in that account, most people in Hell didn't believe in Hell...

I'm concerned for yours as well.

 

[ding]

Some good preacher men consider it a puzzle in how to bring a person to God by crafting a good sermon.

You can’t fool me.

Clearly I did because that's not me. I just like figuring things out for the sake of knowing.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Hell is real, period. Again, God has revealed to me that Hell exists. But knowing that I am just a schmuck on the internet to ... other schmucks on the internet...

How about Our Lady of Fatima who not only mentioned Hell but showed the children a glimpse of it?

She had a dream. God did not inspire that dream.

Hell is the place of permanent DEATH, not eternal TORTURE

 

[K9Buck]

How about Our Lady of Fatima who not only mentioned Hell but showed the children a glimpse of it?

I believe these are demonic manifestations.

 

[notmyfault2020]

All I did was give my opinion. I’m not trying ro tell you or anyone what to believe.

I never accused you of that.

What kind of Christian would I be if I knew there was a Hell, that most people end up there, and never warn anyone?

 

[notmyfault2020]

I believe these are demonic manifestations.

Your beliefs do not matter compared to what God is and what God knows and the way God set things up. If people don't like those of us who know there is a Hell, they can take their arguments to God

Good luck with that

 

[notmyfault2020]

Why would a loving God who created the loving Mother of our Lord who is now also the Mother of us all...

allow her to be used by Satan for "demonic manifestation" purposes? and to young children?!

Watch out... Remember what Jesus said to the people who saw one of Jesus's miracles, yet said that He did such things by the power of the devil!

That is the passage that mentions the unforgivable sin

 

[notmyfault2020]

She had a dream. God did not inspire that dream.

Hell is the place of permanent DEATH, not eternal TORTURE

Wow... amazing... people arguing with God Himself...

See my last post (b4 this one) RE the unforgivable sin... which may involve calling what is good and holy Satanic?