Taz
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"it started as a tiny spec" can't see that yet. And if we could we would need to explain why that is... with science.You don't need to know. What we do know is that it started as a tiny spec and was hardwired to produce intelligence.It's really very simple. We don't know how the universe was made, by what/who, and why. You're locked into having already decided what the deal is, and it proves your position. I'm happy for you, but that doesn't work for thinking people.So then you agree that...God exists, god doesn't exist, and I don't know either way for lack of proof. It's an agnostic position. Deal with it.If that were the case, taz, you wouldn't deny that the only options which exist are God exists or God doesn't exist. Your reluctance to accept this simple binary proposition as well as your reluctance to accept the universe popping into existence from nothing being hardwired to produce intelligence proves you are lying. You fear examination because you want to reject God.lol, not reject, see no proof for. If I see real proof, I’ll accept it/him/her.Yes. Why not? He still loves you even though you reject Him.Does god still love me even if I see no proof of said god?
At the heart of this debate is whether or not the material world was created by spirit. If the material world were not created by spirit, then everything which has occurred since the beginning of space and time are products of the material world. Everything which is incorporeal proceeded from the corporeal. There is no middle ground. There is no other option. Either the material world was created by spirit or it wasn't. All other options will simplify to one of these two lowest common denominators which are mutually exclusive.