DOMA ruled unconstitutional

Sexual orientation is as immutable as race. Maybe that's the point you have failed to understand.

No it is not
If that's all the further you are willing to go to learn something you obviously know nothing about, then there is no point arguing any further. It's too bad that you lack the intellectual flexibility to learn what by now is widely known and accepted as true.

But the fact is sexual orientation is not a choice but an immutable factor in human beings. I know this flies in the face of whatever source you used to understand human nature. But it's true.

People choose to be gay It's all a choice. People cannot choose what the color of their skin will be they are born that way.
 
They are technically invalidated

And that means that they are not valid. If they are technically invalid, in what way are they valid?

Doesn't change the fact people are still being arrested that is what technically invalidated means.

You have been given source after source after source showing the anti-sodomy laws are invalid and that sodomy is not illegal.

But because you find this one source saying people are being arrested on laws that are technically invalid, you think you have found something?

Sodomy is not illegal. The actions of cops does not change the laws. In fact, in the article you linked they talked about the cases being dismissed or thrown out.
 
No it is not
If that's all the further you are willing to go to learn something you obviously know nothing about, then there is no point arguing any further. It's too bad that you lack the intellectual flexibility to learn what by now is widely known and accepted as true.

But the fact is sexual orientation is not a choice but an immutable factor in human beings. I know this flies in the face of whatever source you used to understand human nature. But it's true.

People choose to be gay It's all a choice. People cannot choose what the color of their skin will be they are born that way.

Once again you seem proud to show off your ignorance. Its funny you insist your opinion is fact, when plenty of highly trained specialists disagree with you.
 
And that means that they are not valid. If they are technically invalid, in what way are they valid?

Doesn't change the fact people are still being arrested that is what technically invalidated means.

You have been given source after source after source showing the anti-sodomy laws are invalid and that sodomy is not illegal.

But because you find this one source saying people are being arrested on laws that are technically invalid, you think you have found something?

Sodomy is not illegal. The actions of cops does not change the laws. In fact, in the article you linked they talked about the cases being dismissed or thrown out.

I used a pro gay source stating that those laws were still being enforced if you have a beef about the source contact the source.
 
If that's all the further you are willing to go to learn something you obviously know nothing about, then there is no point arguing any further. It's too bad that you lack the intellectual flexibility to learn what by now is widely known and accepted as true.

But the fact is sexual orientation is not a choice but an immutable factor in human beings. I know this flies in the face of whatever source you used to understand human nature. But it's true.

People choose to be gay It's all a choice. People cannot choose what the color of their skin will be they are born that way.

Once again you seem proud to show off your ignorance. Its funny you insist your opinion is fact, when plenty of highly trained specialists disagree with you.

I am proud that I am smart enough too see through bullshit and you aren't

People have no choice in what the color of their skin will be. They have a choice in how they live their life.

Are pedophiles born the way they are?
 
Doesn't change the fact people are still being arrested that is what technically invalidated means.

You have been given source after source after source showing the anti-sodomy laws are invalid and that sodomy is not illegal.

But because you find this one source saying people are being arrested on laws that are technically invalid, you think you have found something?

Sodomy is not illegal. The actions of cops does not change the laws. In fact, in the article you linked they talked about the cases being dismissed or thrown out.

I used a pro gay source stating that those laws were still being enforced if you have a beef about the source contact the source.

I am not disputing that people are being arrested. I am saying the anti-sodomy laws are invalid. Wrongful arrests happen all the time. It does not change the laws.
 
You have been given source after source after source showing the anti-sodomy laws are invalid and that sodomy is not illegal.

But because you find this one source saying people are being arrested on laws that are technically invalid, you think you have found something?

Sodomy is not illegal. The actions of cops does not change the laws. In fact, in the article you linked they talked about the cases being dismissed or thrown out.

I used a pro gay source stating that those laws were still being enforced if you have a beef about the source contact the source.

I am not disputing that people are being arrested. I am saying the anti-sodomy laws are invalid. Wrongful arrests happen all the time. It does not change the laws.

That's where the technically invalidated part comes into play. Technically invalidated does not mean that the laws are not enforced any longer.
 

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maybe winterborn enjoys saying the same thing over and over to someone with all the intellectual capacity of a doorknob, but i've got a sock drawer to alphabetize.

have a nice day

You are right, of course. I have to get another chapter polished before I send it to my editor, so this is wasting valuable time.

The main reason I continue to argue with the doorknob is not to get him to admit he is wrong. I think he is incapable of that. But others read these posts and do not respond. Hopefully one or two of those people will learn something.
 
People choose to be gay It's all a choice. People cannot choose what the color of their skin will be they are born that way.

Once again you seem proud to show off your ignorance. Its funny you insist your opinion is fact, when plenty of highly trained specialists disagree with you.

I am proud that I am smart enough too see through bullshit and you aren't

People have no choice in what the color of their skin will be. They have a choice in how they live their life.

Are pedophiles born the way they are?

Don't be proud, lildeb. People are pointing and laughing, and telling their friends about the shit you say as though it were true. ;)
 
I used a pro gay source stating that those laws were still being enforced if you have a beef about the source contact the source.

I am not disputing that people are being arrested. I am saying the anti-sodomy laws are invalid. Wrongful arrests happen all the time. It does not change the laws.

That's where the technically invalidated part comes into play. Technically invalidated does not mean that the laws are not enforced any longer.

No it doesn't. But it does mean that the law is invalid and therefore sodomy is not illegal.
 
I used a pro gay source stating that those laws were still being enforced if you have a beef about the source contact the source.

I am not disputing that people are being arrested. I am saying the anti-sodomy laws are invalid. Wrongful arrests happen all the time. It does not change the laws.

That's where the technically invalidated part comes into play. Technically invalidated does not mean that the laws are not enforced any longer.
I'm curious to know why you aren't up in arms at these cops that are arresting people illegally.
 

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