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You dont see a problem with going to war over dust and rubble?
Hardly an accurate description of the crusades.
I guess you're not familiar with the campaign of Richard "The Lionheart" of England ot the Knights Templars ruthless acts. Or when Jerusalem were occupied by Christians the many innocent Jewish and Muslim occupants. If you have counter evidrnce please share it. I hardly call the crusades the will of God.
I don't see a problem with the crusades, per se. It's the atrocious acts some of them did as crusaders that's the problem. But the crusades themselves were designed to defend Europe and liberate the Holy Land.
You dont see a problem with going to war over dust and rubble?
Hardly an accurate description of the crusades.
You dont see a problem with going to war over dust and rubble?
Hardly an accurate description of the crusades.
Most people don't know the real story behind the crusades and the fact that the Muslims took over half of Europe before Europe fought back and threw them out is completely missing from most history books. Also the fact that the Muslims threw the Christians out of Jerusalem, no longer allowing them to worship at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, the place Christ is suppose to be buried...that's left out as well. I wish our schools would really teach history and not just pick and choose, or worse yet, make things up.
Hardly an accurate description of the crusades.
Most people don't know the real story behind the crusades and the fact that the Muslims took over half of Europe before Europe fought back and threw them out is completely missing from most history books. Also the fact that the Muslims threw the Christians out of Jerusalem, no longer allowing them to worship at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, the place Christ is suppose to be buried...that's left out as well. I wish our schools would really teach history and not just pick and choose, or worse yet, make things up.
Im pretty sure it's the place He wasnt buried
I wish people would stop being dependent on schools to learn and find a love for learning on their own as well.
Here is the problem some of you are missing.
There are many Christians, atheists, and some Jews including some Christian-based websites spend countless time and money to discredit Islam using the relationship between A'isha, and Muhammad. You see, people of the likes of Pat Robertson have no problem getting detailed using Islamic sources about Muhammad's relationship with A'isha, yet we dont talk about Mary and Joseph.
How do we know Mary was a virgin? I mean after all, the hymen can tear just by riding a camel. Or do we define her virginity based on what she said to Gabriel? Regardless why do we choose to forget the relationship ofan older man marrying a 13 or 14 year old girl? Someone here said it was apart of Jewish custom that men married younger women.
Ok if such is true the same can be said of Arabs and Europeans. After all, in those times a woman in her 20's was considered old. If we are going to judge Muhammad why not judge Joseph? Is it because he (Muhammad) married a 9 year-old girl or he may have had sexual relations? Why not Joseph? After all one could speculate that after Jesus' birth Joseph could've had wild sex with Mary. Just because it wasn't written doesn't mean it didn't happen
Very simple. Why do people discount Muhammad's relationship with a younger girl by labeling him a pedophile and not Joseph? Joseph was said to be in his 30's and and Mary (mother of Jesus) to be 13-14. Why do you guys talk about Muhammad and not Joseph who was such a desperate Jew he could only get a female that was between 13 and 14 years of age?
Here is the problem some of you are missing.
There are many Christians, atheists, and some Jews including some Christian-based websites spend countless time and money to discredit Islam using the relationship between A'isha, and Muhammad. You see, people of the likes of Pat Robertson have no problem getting detailed using Islamic sources about Muhammad's relationship with A'isha, yet we dont talk about Mary and Joseph.
How do we know Mary was a virgin? I mean after all, the hymen can tear just by riding a camel. Or do we define her virginity based on what she said to Gabriel? Regardless why do we choose to forget the relationship ofan older man marrying a 13 or 14 year old girl? Someone here said it was apart of Jewish custom that men married younger women.
Ok if such is true the same can be said of Arabs and Europeans. After all, in those times a woman in her 20's was considered old. If we are going to judge Muhammad why not judge Joseph? Is it because he (Muhammad) married a 9 year-old girl or he may have had sexual relations? Why not Joseph? After all one could speculate that after Jesus' birth Joseph could've had wild sex with Mary. Just because it wasn't written doesn't mean it didn't happen
As has already been pointed out, Joseph wasn't the leader of a religion. Muhammad was, Jesus was, but not Joseph. Somebody is comparing apples and oranges again.
Here is the problem some of you are missing.
There are many Christians, atheists, and some Jews including some Christian-based websites spend countless time and money to discredit Islam using the relationship between A'isha, and Muhammad. You see, people of the likes of Pat Robertson have no problem getting detailed using Islamic sources about Muhammad's relationship with A'isha, yet we dont talk about Mary and Joseph.
How do we know Mary was a virgin? I mean after all, the hymen can tear just by riding a camel. Or do we define her virginity based on what she said to Gabriel? Regardless why do we choose to forget the relationship ofan older man marrying a 13 or 14 year old girl? Someone here said it was apart of Jewish custom that men married younger women.
Ok if such is true the same can be said of Arabs and Europeans. After all, in those times a woman in her 20's was considered old. If we are going to judge Muhammad why not judge Joseph? Is it because he (Muhammad) married a 9 year-old girl or he may have had sexual relations? Why not Joseph? After all one could speculate that after Jesus' birth Joseph could've had wild sex with Mary. Just because it wasn't written doesn't mean it didn't happen
As has already been pointed out, Joseph wasn't the leader of a religion. Muhammad was, Jesus was, but not Joseph. Somebody is comparing apples and oranges again.
What does Muhammad's leadership have to do with anything? Noah was saved by God when the floor happened and he had sex with his daughters because he was drunk--I would say after the world was destroyed according to your logic, Noah wae a leader of his faith. Being the leader of a religious faith has nothing to do with anything that is common in semitic culture.
Here is the problem some of you are missing.
There are many Christians, atheists, and some Jews including some Christian-based websites spend countless time and money to discredit Islam using the relationship between A'isha, and Muhammad. You see, people of the likes of Pat Robertson have no problem getting detailed using Islamic sources about Muhammad's relationship with A'isha, yet we dont talk about Mary and Joseph.
How do we know Mary was a virgin? I mean after all, the hymen can tear just by riding a camel. Or do we define her virginity based on what she said to Gabriel? Regardless why do we choose to forget the relationship ofan older man marrying a 13 or 14 year old girl? Someone here said it was apart of Jewish custom that men married younger women.
Ok if such is true the same can be said of Arabs and Europeans. After all, in those times a woman in her 20's was considered old. If we are going to judge Muhammad why not judge Joseph? Is it because he (Muhammad) married a 9 year-old girl or he may have had sexual relations? Why not Joseph? After all one could speculate that after Jesus' birth Joseph could've had wild sex with Mary. Just because it wasn't written doesn't mean it didn't happen
As has already been pointed out, Joseph wasn't the leader of a religion. Muhammad was, Jesus was, but not Joseph. Somebody is comparing apples and oranges again.
What does Muhammad's leadership have to do with anything? Noah was saved by God when the floor happened and he had sex with his daughters because he was drunk--I would say after the world was destroyed according to your logic, Noah wae a leader of his faith. Being the leader of a religious faith has nothing to do with anything that is common in semitic culture.
Here is the problem some of you are missing.
There are many Christians, atheists, and some Jews including some Christian-based websites spend countless time and money to discredit Islam using the relationship between A'isha, and Muhammad. You see, people of the likes of Pat Robertson have no problem getting detailed using Islamic sources about Muhammad's relationship with A'isha, yet we dont talk about Mary and Joseph.
How do we know Mary was a virgin? I mean after all, the hymen can tear just by riding a camel. Or do we define her virginity based on what she said to Gabriel? Regardless why do we choose to forget the relationship ofan older man marrying a 13 or 14 year old girl? Someone here said it was apart of Jewish custom that men married younger women.
Ok if such is true the same can be said of Arabs and Europeans. After all, in those times a woman in her 20's was considered old. If we are going to judge Muhammad why not judge Joseph? Is it because he (Muhammad) married a 9 year-old girl or he may have had sexual relations? Why not Joseph? After all one could speculate that after Jesus' birth Joseph could've had wild sex with Mary. Just because it wasn't written doesn't mean it didn't happen
As has already been pointed out, Joseph wasn't the leader of a religion. Muhammad was, Jesus was, but not Joseph. Somebody is comparing apples and oranges again.
What does Muhammad's leadership have to do with anything? Noah was saved by God when the floor happened and he had sex with his daughters because he was drunk--I would say after the world was destroyed according to your logic, Noah wae a leader of his faith. Being the leader of a religious faith has nothing to do with anything that is common in semitic culture.
As has already been pointed out, Joseph wasn't the leader of a religion. Muhammad was, Jesus was, but not Joseph. Somebody is comparing apples and oranges again.
What does Muhammad's leadership have to do with anything? Noah was saved by God when the floor happened and he had sex with his daughters because he was drunk--I would say after the world was destroyed according to your logic, Noah wae a leader of his faith. Being the leader of a religious faith has nothing to do with anything that is common in semitic culture.
Read a Bible. At least try to know what you are talking about before making yourself look like a fool.
As has already been pointed out, Joseph wasn't the leader of a religion. Muhammad was, Jesus was, but not Joseph. Somebody is comparing apples and oranges again.
What does Muhammad's leadership have to do with anything? Noah was saved by God when the floor happened and he had sex with his daughters because he was drunk--I would say after the world was destroyed according to your logic, Noah wae a leader of his faith. Being the leader of a religious faith has nothing to do with anything that is common in semitic culture.
Sorry, I believe you mean Lot had sex with his daughters. And my feeling is that this was the influence of Sodom and Gomorrah even after the fact... It appears that Noah's grandson either viewed the nakedness of his drunken grandfather and make light of it...
What does Muhammad's leadership have to do with anything? Noah was saved by God when the floor happened and he had sex with his daughters because he was drunk--I would say after the world was destroyed according to your logic, Noah wae a leader of his faith. Being the leader of a religious faith has nothing to do with anything that is common in semitic culture.
Sorry, I believe you mean Lot had sex with his daughters. And my feeling is that this was the influence of Sodom and Gomorrah even after the fact... It appears that Noah's grandson either viewed the nakedness of his drunken grandfather and make light of it...
Well the point I was that one questioned Muhammad's relationship with A'isha on the basis that he (Muhammad) was a religious leader. My response thereafter was that Muhammad's leadership has nothing to do with a common Semitic custom. But if we are to find Muhammad's character questionable theb we should also question david, Solomon, Samson (who blame his bad luck on a woman). All Biblical and Quranic characteristics have questionable characteristics
Sorry, I believe you mean Lot had sex with his daughters. And my feeling is that this was the influence of Sodom and Gomorrah even after the fact... It appears that Noah's grandson either viewed the nakedness of his drunken grandfather and make light of it...
Well the point I was that one questioned Muhammad's relationship with A'isha on the basis that he (Muhammad) was a religious leader. My response thereafter was that Muhammad's leadership has nothing to do with a common Semitic custom. But if we are to find Muhammad's character questionable theb we should also question david, Solomon, Samson (who blame his bad luck on a woman). All Biblical and Quranic characteristics have questionable characteristics
Major difference being, no one will kill you if you point out that David committed adultery and murder in order to marry the wife of a friend.
Here is the problem some of you are missing.
There are many Christians, atheists, and some Jews including some Christian-based websites spend countless time and money to discredit Islam using the relationship between A'isha, and Muhammad. You see, people of the likes of Pat Robertson have no problem getting detailed using Islamic sources about Muhammad's relationship with A'isha, yet we dont talk about Mary and Joseph.
How do we know Mary was a virgin? I mean after all, the hymen can tear just by riding a camel. Or do we define her virginity based on what she said to Gabriel? Regardless why do we choose to forget the relationship ofan older man marrying a 13 or 14 year old girl? Someone here said it was apart of Jewish custom that men married younger women.
Ok if such is true the same can be said of Arabs and Europeans. After all, in those times a woman in her 20's was considered old. If we are going to judge Muhammad why not judge Joseph? Is it because he (Muhammad) married a 9 year-old girl or he may have had sexual relations? Why not Joseph? After all one could speculate that after Jesus' birth Joseph could've had wild sex with Mary. Just because it wasn't written doesn't mean it didn't happen
Well the point I was that one questioned Muhammad's relationship with A'isha on the basis that he (Muhammad) was a religious leader. My response thereafter was that Muhammad's leadership has nothing to do with a common Semitic custom. But if we are to find Muhammad's character questionable theb we should also question david, Solomon, Samson (who blame his bad luck on a woman). All Biblical and Quranic characteristics have questionable characteristics
Major difference being, no one will kill you if you point out that David committed adultery and murder in order to marry the wife of a friend.
Actually I know if I spat on the wailing wall and curse the prophets of Israel an Israeli mob of Jews would want to kill me
Well the point I was that one questioned Muhammad's relationship with A'isha on the basis that he (Muhammad) was a religious leader. My response thereafter was that Muhammad's leadership has nothing to do with a common Semitic custom. But if we are to find Muhammad's character questionable theb we should also question david, Solomon, Samson (who blame his bad luck on a woman). All Biblical and Quranic characteristics have questionable characteristics
Major difference being, no one will kill you if you point out that David committed adultery and murder in order to marry the wife of a friend.
Actually I know if I spat on the wailing wall and curse the prophets of Israel an Israeli mob of Jews would want to kill me
Major difference being, no one will kill you if you point out that David committed adultery and murder in order to marry the wife of a friend.
Actually I know if I spat on the wailing wall and curse the prophets of Israel an Israeli mob of Jews would want to kill me
There is a bit of a difference between pointing something out and disagreeing with someone else on a matter, and then being a rude @$$ to someone.
