Down in the Dumps- The Grand Illusion

[Ringel05]

AGREE If you are talking to me Ringel .

Looks to me like you were the one I was quoting.

 

[Ringel05]

When I was young, I believed in this:



I really, really did.... and I thought everybody felt the same, warm and fuzzy yet goose bumpy, comforting peace inside that we Americans, were generous, awesome people! IF anyone could bring world peace, it was us...I just knew it!

Maybe it was because my circle of family, friends, and coworkers all seemed to have the same proud of their country feelings? So much of life was all ahead of me! I hadn't even met Matthew yet!

Maybe it was not really knowing the underbelly of my own country?

Maybe it was just being young and naive and foolish?

Whatever it was....

I miss those days....

Don't feel alone, most people and Americans in particular think that people everywhere think like we do and want what we want. Think that ALL people that matter are inherently good, generous and altruistic but have no clue what the real world is like, what evil motivates many people from a multitude of backgrounds and cultures.
I grew up military, I knew We are the World was a pipe dream.

I was an Air force Brat and grew up Military as well, and I thought we were the greatest! I had lived overseas in Puerto Rico and Italy and Germany for a little bit, and truly felt and thought, "there is no place like home"! And thought my dad, serving his country for 22 years, was the best(est) dad ever, in the best(est) nation ever!

just simply naive, I suppose.....

You wanted to believe, no problem with that.

I was raised in the Orient, major difference than Europe or even Puerto Rico. The poverty in much of Asia makes Puerto Ricans look rich.

No I was with here we had that and farm aid..it was cool times in the 80's ..so full of hope and dreams

I was young and idealistic once........

 

[Wyatt earp]

When I was young, I believed in this:



I really, really did.... and I thought everybody felt the same, warm and fuzzy yet goose bumpy, comforting peace inside that we Americans, were generous, awesome people! IF anyone could bring world peace, it was us...I just knew it!

Maybe it was because my circle of family, friends, and coworkers all seemed to have the same proud of their country feelings? So much of life was all ahead of me! I hadn't even met Matthew yet!

Maybe it was not really knowing the underbelly of my own country?

Maybe it was just being young and naive and foolish?

Whatever it was....

I miss those days....

Don't feel alone, most people and Americans in particular think that people everywhere think like we do and want what we want. Think that ALL people that matter are inherently good, generous and altruistic but have no clue what the real world is like, what evil motivates many people from a multitude of backgrounds and cultures.
I grew up military, I knew We are the World was a pipe dream.

I was an Air force Brat and grew up Military as well, and I thought we were the greatest! I had lived overseas in Puerto Rico and Italy and Germany for a little bit, and truly felt and thought, "there is no place like home"! And thought my dad, serving his country for 22 years, was the best(est) dad ever, in the best(est) nation ever!

just simply naive, I suppose.....

You wanted to believe, no problem with that.

I was raised in the Orient, major difference than Europe or even Puerto Rico. The poverty in much of Asia makes Puerto Ricans look rich.

No I was with here we had that and farm aid..it was cool times in the 80's ..so full of hope and dreams

I was young and idealistic once........

Of course we were all liberals back then..

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Ringel05]

Don't feel alone, most people and Americans in particular think that people everywhere think like we do and want what we want. Think that ALL people that matter are inherently good, generous and altruistic but have no clue what the real world is like, what evil motivates many people from a multitude of backgrounds and cultures.
I grew up military, I knew We are the World was a pipe dream.

I was an Air force Brat and grew up Military as well, and I thought we were the greatest! I had lived overseas in Puerto Rico and Italy and Germany for a little bit, and truly felt and thought, "there is no place like home"! And thought my dad, serving his country for 22 years, was the best(est) dad ever, in the best(est) nation ever!

just simply naive, I suppose.....

You wanted to believe, no problem with that.

I was raised in the Orient, major difference than Europe or even Puerto Rico. The poverty in much of Asia makes Puerto Ricans look rich.

No I was with here we had that and farm aid..it was cool times in the 80's ..so full of hope and dreams

I was young and idealistic once........

Of course we were all liberals back then..

I was a democratic socialist before it was cool........ Then I grew up........

 

[pismoe]

i was always Conservative , my style of Conservative which includes a bit of small L libertarian thinking . -------------- just saying .

 

[Care4all]

Not to sideline your great OP too much, but did you see Daddy's Home 2? There's an hysterical scene where they all break into your favorite song. You should see it if you haven't.

no, hadn't seen it!

 

[williepete]

just simply naive, I suppose

We all were thank goodness. That innocence was a fragile gift with an expiration date. Something to look back on.

Then we went out and saw the world. We saw that evil walks the Earth. We saw what humans are capable and eager to do to other humans. We saw what weapons can do to frail human frames.

And the scales fall from our eyes. We should be thankful for that initial naïve, innocent vision.

Good post. Not sure what prompted you to write it but thanks.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Not to sideline your great OP too much, but did you see Daddy's Home 2? There's an hysterical scene where they all break into your favorite song. You should see it if you haven't.

no, hadn't seen it!

Thanks for this thread though. . I agree

 

[Wyatt earp]

 

[williepete]

Maybe it was not really knowing the underbelly of my own country?

Not the underbelly of your country. The human condition existed long before.

 

[Erinwltr]

When I was young, I believed in this:



I really, really did.... and I thought everybody felt the same, warm and fuzzy yet goose bumpy, comforting peace inside that we Americans, were generous, awesome people! IF anyone could bring world peace, it was us...I just knew it!

Maybe it was because my circle of family, friends, and coworkers all seemed to have the same proud of their country feelings? So much of life was all ahead of me! I hadn't even met Matthew yet!

Maybe it was not really knowing the underbelly of my own country?

Maybe it was just being young and naive and foolish?

Whatever it was....

I miss those days....

I think I just drank too much liquor and came across your thread.? Are U serious? "Take another valium like a normal person!"

 

[Wyatt earp]

When I was young, I believed in this:



I really, really did.... and I thought everybody felt the same, warm and fuzzy yet goose bumpy, comforting peace inside that we Americans, were generous, awesome people! IF anyone could bring world peace, it was us...I just knew it!

Maybe it was because my circle of family, friends, and coworkers all seemed to have the same proud of their country feelings? So much of life was all ahead of me! I hadn't even met Matthew yet!

Maybe it was not really knowing the underbelly of my own country?

Maybe it was just being young and naive and foolish?

Whatever it was....

I miss those days....

I think I just drank too much liquor and came across your thread.? Are U serious? "Take another valium like a normal person!"

No this thread is like tiny dancers Camelot thread... I love it..


I want it back: it was Camelot

 

[Care4all]

ahhh, yes! a girlfriend of mine and I used to play Let's go Crazy off of that album every weekend before we went out dancing and bar hopping!

 

[Wyatt earp]

ahhh, yes! a girlfriend of mine and I used to play Let's go Crazy off of that album every weekend before we went out dancing and bar hopping!

Why didn't you invite me

 

[Wyatt earp]

ahhh, yes! a girlfriend of mine and I used to play Let's go Crazy off of that album every weekend before we went out dancing and bar hopping!

Purple rain has to be my number one greatest song ever, better then the Beatles hey Jude. Or stair way to heaven

 

[Care4all]

ahhh, yes! a girlfriend of mine and I used to play Let's go Crazy off of that album every weekend before we went out dancing and bar hopping!

Why didn't you invite me

who knows, I probably did? Were you in Miami in the 80's??

 

[Care4all]

ahhh, yes! a girlfriend of mine and I used to play Let's go Crazy off of that album every weekend before we went out dancing and bar hopping!

Purple rain has to be my number one greatest song ever, better then the Beatles hey Jude. Or stair way to heaven

I think I agree with you! I was devastated when he died....

 

[Wyatt earp]

ahhh, yes! a girlfriend of mine and I used to play Let's go Crazy off of that album every weekend before we went out dancing and bar hopping!

Why didn't you invite me

who knows, I probably did? Were you in Miami in the 80's??

Was in clear water/ saint pete.. I hit on this girl hard , used every move I had, got her the first night , second night..she moved on..

 

[Wyatt earp]

ahhh, yes! a girlfriend of mine and I used to play Let's go Crazy off of that album every weekend before we went out dancing and bar hopping!

Why didn't you invite me

who knows, I probably did? Were you in Miami in the 80's??

Was in clear water/ saint pete.. I hit on this girl hard , used every move I had, got her the first night , second night..she moved on..

I don't think it was you though , you probably would of held my hand and argue with me about Bill Clinton..

Lol...