Elementary school shooting

[idb]

So you think all Isrealis are insane?

What hubris to think you have the right to judge an entire nation of people, not for failing, but to contradict your notions with things that actually work.

I.E. you are a typical libtard ass hat.

Do you think that "all Israeli's" find the situation depicted in that photo to be ideal? Do you think that "any Israeli's" do? I'm guessing they don't.

You have limited capacity, I know, but you could give things a little thought before you decide to respond.

It was the Isrealis that insisted that their government allow this to protect their kids, you stupid fuck.

Who are they protecting them from?

 

[LoneLaugher]

So you think all Isrealis are insane?

What hubris to think you have the right to judge an entire nation of people, not for failing, but to contradict your notions with things that actually work.

I.E. you are a typical libtard ass hat.

Do you think that "all Israeli's" find the situation depicted in that photo to be ideal? Do you think that "any Israeli's" do? I'm guessing they don't.

You have limited capacity, I know, but you could give things a little thought before you decide to respond.

It was the Isrealis that insisted that their government allow this to protect their kids, you stupid fuck.

Apart from the fact that you pulled that comment right out of your ass and have no idea what anyone asked anyone to allow.......you have not demonstrated that even a single Israeli considers this to be the ideal. You cannot point to even one Israeli mother would not prefer to be able to send their kid to school in a place that was absent of weapons. Can you? The situation depicted in the picture is not the ideal.....to anyone who is sane.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Do you think that "all Israeli's" find the situation depicted in that photo to be ideal? Do you think that "any Israeli's" do? I'm guessing they don't.

You have limited capacity, I know, but you could give things a little thought before you decide to respond.

It was the Isrealis that insisted that their government allow this to protect their kids, you stupid fuck.

Apart from the fact that you pulled that comment right out of your ass and have no idea what anyone asked anyone to allow.......you have not demonstrated that even a single Israeli considers this to be the ideal. You cannot point to even one Israeli mother would not prefer to be able to send their kid to school in a place that was absent of weapons. Can you? The situation depicted in the picture is not the ideal.....to anyone who is sane.

My daughter in law is Jewish and has an uncle and two aunts that live in Israel, and they would disagree with you.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No they won't

This was the last straw. Even the NRA would be advised to pick it's battles wisely. Republicans are starting to back away from their knee jerk support of the NRA agenda

Even NRA members are supporting enhanced background checks

Gun bans don't work, no firearms will be turned in. nothing will be accomplished people will continue to die at thew wrong end of a gun. While gun grabbers will path themselves on the back America will burn.

Personally, I would hyphenate 'gun grabber' thus - 'gun-grabber'.

Personally I could care less about what someone thinks who lives in a country that has a gun ban and they know that it has failed and supports it being pushed in another country.
Do we have an understanding on this?

 

[LoneLaugher]

It was the Isrealis that insisted that their government allow this to protect their kids, you stupid fuck.

Apart from the fact that you pulled that comment right out of your ass and have no idea what anyone asked anyone to allow.......you have not demonstrated that even a single Israeli considers this to be the ideal. You cannot point to even one Israeli mother would not prefer to be able to send their kid to school in a place that was absent of weapons. Can you? The situation depicted in the picture is not the ideal.....to anyone who is sane.

My daughter in law is Jewish and has an uncle and two aunts that live in Israel, and they would disagree with you.

No. No they wouldn't. Unless they are insane.

 

[jtpr312]

On arming teachers and/or staff...

May I remind you that when Ronald Reagan was shot, along with James Brady and Officer Tom Delahanty, there was a cadre of armed men and women present. All of them throughly trained and expertly proficient in the use of guns. All those experts could not prevent John Hinckley from firing six shots in 1.7 seconds and wounding three.

And you propose arming school staff. Are these armed school personnel better marksmen? Do they have keenly honed reaction times? Are they trained to be cool in a hot situation?

Because the Secret Service and the D.C. cops were at the scene and armed.

And who pays for the weaponry and training for school staff? Schools go hat in hand to state houses and are told the well has run dry. No additional funding for public schools. Don't tell me you think guns and not textbooks makes for a wise choice!

Apples and oranges slick. What you gave us was an assasinaiton attempt which like you showed us, takes but a few seconds of less to carry out. What the photo and SFC are proposing is arming teachers to stop a person from waliking through a school, for 5, 10, 15 20 minutes or more randomly shooting helpless and unarmed people like fish in a barrell.

 

[jtpr312]

Do you think that "all Israeli's" find the situation depicted in that photo to be ideal? Do you think that "any Israeli's" do? I'm guessing they don't.

You have limited capacity, I know, but you could give things a little thought before you decide to respond.

It was the Isrealis that insisted that their government allow this to protect their kids, you stupid fuck.

Apart from the fact that you pulled that comment right out of your ass and have no idea what anyone asked anyone to allow.......you have not demonstrated that even a single Israeli considers this to be the ideal. You cannot point to even one Israeli mother would not prefer to be able to send their kid to school in a place that was absent of weapons. Can you? The situation depicted in the picture is not the ideal.....to anyone who is sane.

Nobody considers this ideal, but the FACT is that there are murderous scum in Israel that have shown us that they have no problem murdering Israeli children. In this nation, Columbine, VA Tech, CT, etc has shown us that we have murderous scum in this nation that have no problem going into schools and murdering our children, so yeah, you can poiint to many Israeli mothers that prefer seeing an armed school teacher than seeing their kids being slaughtered because there is NOT an armed teacher nearby, just as there would be many American mothers who would be thankful today if Sandy Hook, VA Tech, Columbine, etc, had some armed teachers. Nobody is saying it's the ideal but it is reality, your "ideal" is not.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It was the Isrealis that insisted that their government allow this to protect their kids, you stupid fuck.

Apart from the fact that you pulled that comment right out of your ass and have no idea what anyone asked anyone to allow.......you have not demonstrated that even a single Israeli considers this to be the ideal. You cannot point to even one Israeli mother would not prefer to be able to send their kid to school in a place that was absent of weapons. Can you? The situation depicted in the picture is not the ideal.....to anyone who is sane.

Nobody considers this ideal, but the FACT is that there are murderous scum in Israel that have shown us that they have no problem murdering Israeli children. In this nation, Columbine, VA Tech, CT, etc has shown us that we have murderous scum in this nation that have no problem going into schools and murdering our children, so yeah, you can poiint to many Israeli mothers that prefer seeing an armed school teacher than seeing their kids being slaughtered because there is NOT an armed teacher nearby, just as there would be many American mothers who would be thankful today if Sandy Hook, VA Tech, Columbine, etc, had some armed teachers. Nobody is saying it's the ideal but it is reality, your "ideal" is not.

In a moment of sanity, this lunatic acknowledges that arming teachers is not the ideal. Wonderful.

 

[jtpr312]

Apart from the fact that you pulled that comment right out of your ass and have no idea what anyone asked anyone to allow.......you have not demonstrated that even a single Israeli considers this to be the ideal. You cannot point to even one Israeli mother would not prefer to be able to send their kid to school in a place that was absent of weapons. Can you? The situation depicted in the picture is not the ideal.....to anyone who is sane.

Nobody considers this ideal, but the FACT is that there are murderous scum in Israel that have shown us that they have no problem murdering Israeli children. In this nation, Columbine, VA Tech, CT, etc has shown us that we have murderous scum in this nation that have no problem going into schools and murdering our children, so yeah, you can poiint to many Israeli mothers that prefer seeing an armed school teacher than seeing their kids being slaughtered because there is NOT an armed teacher nearby, just as there would be many American mothers who would be thankful today if Sandy Hook, VA Tech, Columbine, etc, had some armed teachers. Nobody is saying it's the ideal but it is reality, your "ideal" is not.

In a moment of sanity, this lunatic acknowledges that arming teachers is not the ideal. Wonderful.

In a moment of sanity this moron may acknowledge that we don't live in his ideal utopia but rather in the real world, where predators prey on our children at our schools and where we should give those responsible for their safety and well being the means to defend our kids and themselves. How many teachers have died in these mass shooting trying to protect our kids with words while the bad guys had semi-automatic weapons?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Nobody considers this ideal, but the FACT is that there are murderous scum in Israel that have shown us that they have no problem murdering Israeli children. In this nation, Columbine, VA Tech, CT, etc has shown us that we have murderous scum in this nation that have no problem going into schools and murdering our children, so yeah, you can poiint to many Israeli mothers that prefer seeing an armed school teacher than seeing their kids being slaughtered because there is NOT an armed teacher nearby, just as there would be many American mothers who would be thankful today if Sandy Hook, VA Tech, Columbine, etc, had some armed teachers. Nobody is saying it's the ideal but it is reality, your "ideal" is not.

In a moment of sanity, this lunatic acknowledges that arming teachers is not the ideal. Wonderful.

In a moment of sanity this moron may acknowledge that we don't live in his ideal utopia but rather in the real world, where predators prey on our children at our schools and where we should give those responsible for their safety and well being the means to defend our kids and themselves. How many teachers have died in these mass shooting trying to protect our kids with words while the bad guys had semi-automatic weapons?

There are no words to describe how stupid that is. Do yourself a favor. Spend a few minutes playing the Devil's advocate. Make a list of all the negatives associated with arming our teachers. If you are sane, you will convince yourself that it is not the way to go.

 

[rightwinger]

Just try that crap & Dem's will lose the Senate & House next election. Democrats only got where they are because they dropped the gun control plank. They will pay dearly if they try to pick it back up again.

No they won't

This was the last straw. Even the NRA would be advised to pick it's battles wisely. Republicans are starting to back away from their knee jerk support of the NRA agenda

Even NRA members are supporting enhanced background checks

Lol, you are a fucking loonatic.

The handwriting is on the wall

Unlike our other massacres which the NRA led Republicans shooed away....this one is not going away

You will still have your guns, but your AR-15s, Glocks, 40 round magazines will be gone. Gun shows will be regulated as they always should have been. And guess what? Your life will go along just fine without them

 

[JoeB131]

On arming teachers and/or staff...

May I remind you that when Ronald Reagan was shot, along with James Brady and Officer Tom Delahanty, there was a cadre of armed men and women present. All of them throughly trained and expertly proficient in the use of guns. All those experts could not prevent John Hinckley from firing six shots in 1.7 seconds and wounding three.

And you propose arming school staff. Are these armed school personnel better marksmen? Do they have keenly honed reaction times? Are they trained to be cool in a hot situation?

Because the Secret Service and the D.C. cops were at the scene and armed.

And who pays for the weaponry and training for school staff? Schools go hat in hand to state houses and are told the well has run dry. No additional funding for public schools. Don't tell me you think guns and not textbooks makes for a wise choice!

Hinkley wounded FOUR people. Timothy McCarthy, a Secret Service Agent, was also wounded.

Other than that small oversight, your point is excellent. Despite being heavily guarded and precautions being taken, one crazy person was able to nearly kill the POTUS because he was able to get a gun. And if he isn't safe, what chance do the rest of us have?

 

[jtpr312]

In a moment of sanity, this lunatic acknowledges that arming teachers is not the ideal. Wonderful.

In a moment of sanity this moron may acknowledge that we don't live in his ideal utopia but rather in the real world, where predators prey on our children at our schools and where we should give those responsible for their safety and well being the means to defend our kids and themselves. How many teachers have died in these mass shooting trying to protect our kids with words while the bad guys had semi-automatic weapons?

There are no words to describe how stupid that is. Do yourself a favor. Spend a few minutes playing the Devil's advocate. Make a list of all the negatives associated with arming our teachers. If you are sane, you will convince yourself that it is not the way to go.

Negatives in arming teachers.
O
Positives in arming teachers.
1. They will be able to protect our children from the lunatics in this world that go to schools to slaughter helpless people KNOWING nobody there can stop them.



The Positives have it. As a matter of fact, even you you could make up some negatives, which is what you would have to do, for there isn't a single valid negative in the world, the ONE positive would outweight ALL the false negatives you could come up with.

 

[LoneLaugher]

In a moment of sanity this moron may acknowledge that we don't live in his ideal utopia but rather in the real world, where predators prey on our children at our schools and where we should give those responsible for their safety and well being the means to defend our kids and themselves. How many teachers have died in these mass shooting trying to protect our kids with words while the bad guys had semi-automatic weapons?

There are no words to describe how stupid that is. Do yourself a favor. Spend a few minutes playing the Devil's advocate. Make a list of all the negatives associated with arming our teachers. If you are sane, you will convince yourself that it is not the way to go.

Negatives in arming teachers.
O
Positives in arming teachers.
1. They will be able to protect our children from the lunatics in this world that go to schools to slaughter helpless people KNOWING nobody there can stop them.



The Positives have it. As a matter of fact, even you you could make up some negatives, which is what you would have to do, for there isn't a single valid negative in the world, the ONE positive would outweight ALL the false negatives you could come up with.

Let me guess. You have a hard time getting people to carry on a discussion with you for an extended period of time. That happens to people who are flatly dishonest.

 

[JoeB131]

Negatives in arming teachers.
O
Positives in arming teachers.
1. They will be able to protect our children from the lunatics in this world that go to schools to slaughter helpless people KNOWING nobody there can stop them.



The Positives have it. As a matter of fact, even you you could make up some negatives, which is what you would have to do, for there isn't a single valid negative in the world, the ONE positive would outweight ALL the false negatives you could come up with.

No Negatives?

Really?

Frankly, thinking back to some of the idiot teachers I had in HS, I don't picture any of them having guns being a good thing.

And unless they are going to have their guns holstered on them at all times, you always have the possibility a kid might get one of those guns.

More to the point, as another poster pointed out, a single crazy person with a gun was able to shoot four people despite one of those people being the President and the others being armed and precautions being taken.

 

[rightwinger]

In a moment of sanity this moron may acknowledge that we don't live in his ideal utopia but rather in the real world, where predators prey on our children at our schools and where we should give those responsible for their safety and well being the means to defend our kids and themselves. How many teachers have died in these mass shooting trying to protect our kids with words while the bad guys had semi-automatic weapons?

There are no words to describe how stupid that is. Do yourself a favor. Spend a few minutes playing the Devil's advocate. Make a list of all the negatives associated with arming our teachers. If you are sane, you will convince yourself that it is not the way to go.

Negatives in arming teachers.
O
Positives in arming teachers.
1. They will be able to protect our children from the lunatics in this world that go to schools to slaughter helpless people KNOWING nobody there can stop them.



The Positives have it. As a matter of fact, even you you could make up some negatives, which is what you would have to do, for there isn't a single valid negative in the world, the ONE positive would outweight ALL the false negatives you could come up with.

Negatives of arming teachers
1. Unqualified armed people running around our children
2. Guns getting into the hands of children
3. Unqualified teacher making a wrong decision and shooting a student
4. Poorly trained teacher getting killed unnecessarily
5. Poorly trained teacher turning a hostage situation into a killing zone

Positives of arming teachers
1. Gun rights advocates wet dream

 

[Zoom-boing]

If someone at a school is going to be armed it should be hired, trained professional security personnel. Imagine if Sandy Hook had an armed security person or two. Chances of those killed being alive would be so much greater.

 

[JoeB131]

If someone at a school is going to be armed it should be hired, trained professional security personnel. Imagine if Sandy Hook had an armed security person or two. Chances of those killed being alive would be so much greater.

I find it amusing that the people who want to reduce the number of government employees are now calling for MORE government employees... if the alternative is giving up their penis subsitutes....

 

[Si modo]

There are no words to describe how stupid that is. Do yourself a favor. Spend a few minutes playing the Devil's advocate. Make a list of all the negatives associated with arming our teachers. If you are sane, you will convince yourself that it is not the way to go.

Negatives in arming teachers.
O
Positives in arming teachers.
1. They will be able to protect our children from the lunatics in this world that go to schools to slaughter helpless people KNOWING nobody there can stop them.



The Positives have it. As a matter of fact, even you you could make up some negatives, which is what you would have to do, for there isn't a single valid negative in the world, the ONE positive would outweight ALL the false negatives you could come up with.

Negatives of arming teachers
1. Unqualified armed people running around our children
2. Guns getting into the hands of children
3. Unqualified teacher making a wrong decision and shooting a student
4. Poorly trained teacher getting killed unnecessarily
5. Poorly trained teacher turning a hostage situation into a killing zone

Positives of arming teachers
1. Gun rights advocates wet dream

1. Easy solution...train them.
2. Easy solution...trigger locks and/or locked cabinets
3. Proper training would prevent that.
4. Ditto
5. Ditto


Not that I agree all teachers should be armed, but I am all for a few teachers and/or administrators being armed. Even better, have armed security in all schools.

These assholes don't go into cop stations to massacre. They know they wouldn't get too far. They don't go into malls too often to do so, either, at least in states with conceal carry laws. They go to gun free zones. Arm a few folks in the gun free zones, and maybe this shit will stop.

At the high school down the road, there are three cops there every day. They have guns.

 

[Zoom-boing]

If someone at a school is going to be armed it should be hired, trained professional security personnel. Imagine if Sandy Hook had an armed security person or two. Chances of those killed being alive would be so much greater.

I find it amusing that the people who want to reduce the number of government employees are now calling for MORE government employees... if the alternative is giving up their penis subsitutes....

Are you saying that if Sandy Hook had trained and armed security it wouldn't have made any difference?

Getting rid of redundant and useless gov't employees is good. Why do you have a problem with that?