Erasing Southern Pride: U.S. Army War College Removing Confederate Generals Portraits

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The article said that those portraits were to be moved, not removed from the War College.

But those confederate generals fought for one of the most despicable causes ever fought for.

grant said the same thing in his memoirs. Courage and bravery in the most horrible cause imaginable. But he put the portraits up. the are american soldiers.

Sherman marched through georgia, but let them up when it was over
 
which is not convenient to PPC neoMarxist historical revisionists like you dear.

(1) JB does not know what "PPC neoMarxist historical revisionists" means; it is simply TeaParty talk.

(2) JB has no idea how to relate it to the discussion.

(3) A good portion of the South hated the Confederacy.

A good portion of the South hated the Confederacy.

Really? If that were true there would not have been a war.
Stop burping out bull shit.

Disagree. There were obvious portions of the South like northern Alabama, Eastern Tennessee, and West Virginia that did not want to leave the union.

But you are right; anything Jake the Fake posts is bullshit from the git-go.
 
ummm...... I still don't see a source there JimCrowie1958 :eusa_eh: Also, you skipped over the Fort Sumter matter which preceded all of the baloney you just mentioned War of Southern Rebellion boi.

It's seems to annoy the JimCrowie that I provide backup references and occasional illustration for what I post.

That, in itself, is revealing.

rw'ers, like JimCrowie1958, think that doing research & posting sources is nerdy.


Where did she do that in response to anything I have posted that had an argument to it and a rebuttal to my post?

no, she cant be bothered because she doesn't understand my posts apparently, because she is a fraud.

The primary driving force to the instigation of the Civil War was Lincolns invasion of the South that he repeatedly stated was to restore the union and had nothing to do with freeing slaves unless he thought that could help restore the union.

The Southerners repeatedly stated that they fought to defend themselves from this invasion.

But to idiots like you and frauds like paperview, what the actors of history say they do things for is irrelevant. She knows the real hidden Truth, roflmao.
 
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I read that book 10+ yrs ago. Wonder if bigrebnc or JimCrowie1958 have? :eusa_whistle: :doubt:

Conservative estimate = over 100,000 White Southerners left the CSA to fight for the Union.

Every Southern state except South Carolina raised at least a battalion of Southern Unionists.

[Lincoln's Loyalists: Union Soldiers from the Confederacy]

[Also: "...some 100,000 white southerners (along with 150,000 blacks) — at least one battalion of white troops from every Confederate state except South Carolina — served in Union armies during the course of the war. " ]
Mackubin Thomas Owens on Cold Mountain on National Review Online

Other estimates place it well over a quarter million.

I stay away from skewed opinionated books. I deal more with reference research information.
 
The article said that those portraits were to be moved, not removed from the War College.

But those confederate generals fought for one of the most despicable causes ever fought for.

grant said the same thing in his memoirs. Courage and bravery in the most horrible cause imaginable. But he put the portraits up. the are american soldiers.

Sherman marched through georgia, but let them up when it was over

Grant owned two slaves through the whole war, so that despicable cause would not be slavery would it? Grant despised himself?

roflmao
 
ummm...... I still don't see a source there JimCrowie1958 :eusa_eh: Also, you skipped over the Fort Sumter matter War of Southern Rebellion boi.

rw'ers, like JimCrowie1958, think that doing research & posting sources is nerdy.


Where did she do that in response to anything I have posted that had an argument to it and a rebuttal to my post?

no, she cant be bothered because she doesn't understand my posts apparently, because she is a fraud.

The primary driving force to the instigation of the Civil War was Lincolns invasion of the South that he repeatedly stated was to restore the union and had nothing to do with freeing slaves unless he thought that could help restore the union.

The Southerners repeatedly stated that they fought to defend themselves from this invasion.

But to idiots like you and frauds like paperview, what the actors of history say they do things for is irrelevant. She knows the real hidden Truth, roflmao.

Which of my fact of the public domain do you question, idiot?
 
(1) JB does not know what "PPC neoMarxist historical revisionists" means; it is simply TeaParty talk.

(2) JB has no idea how to relate it to the discussion.

(3) A good portion of the South hated the Confederacy.

A good portion of the South hated the Confederacy.

Really? If that were true there would not have been a war.
Stop burping out bull shit.

Disagree. There were obvious portions of the South like northern Alabama, Eastern Tennessee, and West Virginia that did not want to leave the union.

But you are right; anything Jake the Fake posts is bullshit from the git-go.

What I was calling bull shit on was the good portion of the south part. it's bull shit and you know it is.
 
ummm..... footnotes are footnotes. Do you dispute them? You can't because you, & JimCrowie1958 for that matter, haven't troubled yourselves w/ providing any sources here so why would you seek out sourced material anyway (not that I think either of you are able) Both of you retards stop wasting our time w/ your "opinions". :eusa_hand:

I read that book 10+ yrs ago. Wonder if bigrebnc or JimCrowie1958 have? :eusa_whistle: :doubt:

Conservative estimate = over 100,000 White Southerners left the CSA to fight for the Union.

Every Southern state except South Carolina raised at least a battalion of Southern Unionists.

[Lincoln's Loyalists: Union Soldiers from the Confederacy]

[Also: "...some 100,000 white southerners (along with 150,000 blacks) — at least one battalion of white troops from every Confederate state except South Carolina — served in Union armies during the course of the war. " ]
Mackubin Thomas Owens on Cold Mountain on National Review Online

Other estimates place it well over a quarter million.

I stay away from skewed opinionated books. I deal more with reference research information.
 
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[What I was calling bull shit on was the good portion of the south part. it's bull shit and you know it is.

Well, I am sure 99% of the blacks in the South then would think you are full of shit. 4.5 million

Probably a quarter of whites were against secession, so that would equal another 1.25 million

So 5.75 million of 9 million opposed secession.

Yup, probably a slight majority of southerners opposed secession and the CSA.

bigreb writes, "I deal more with reference research information" without having the slightest idea what it means.
 
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Really? If that were true there would not have been a war.
Stop burping out bull shit.

Disagree. There were obvious portions of the South like northern Alabama, Eastern Tennessee, and West Virginia that did not want to leave the union.

But you are right; anything Jake the Fake posts is bullshit from the git-go.

What I was calling bull shit on was the good portion of the south part. it's bull shit and you know it is.

It is the kind of weasel wording that liars like Jake use for evasion later.

I was surprised decades ago when I first read about so many areas being pro-union that I would have thought it a 'good portion of the South', but there is no definition of such a phrase. What is a good portion; 20% 40%?

Like I said, Jake uses that kind of ambiguous phrase to use to evade being pinned down later. He depends on it meaning something else to you than it would necessarily mean to anyone else.

I am not going to waste a lot of time on that kind of ambiguous bullshit.

But there were enough pro-Union Southerners to break away a whole new state, and some areas where large groups of counties were anti-Confederacy, and some of them still are unpopular with the rest of their state due to that old 'betrayal'. I was surprised to see the Civil War referenced in some articles I read about how east Tennessee gets politically treated like a red-headed step child in that states politics.

They can still smell the powder burning.
 
[What I was calling bull shit on was the good portion of the south part. it's bull shit and you know it is.

Well, I am sure 99% of the blacks in the South then would think you are full of shit. 4.5 million

Probably a quarter of whites were against secession, so that would equal another 1.25 million

So 5.75 million of 9 million opposed secession.

Yup, probably a slight majority of southerners opposed secession and the CSA.

bigreb writes, "I deal more with reference research information" without having the slightest idea what it means.

Starkey you wouldn't know the Truth if it bit you in the ass, you fucking lying piece of shyte.
 
[What I was calling bull shit on was the good portion of the south part. it's bull shit and you know it is.

Well, I am sure 99% of the blacks in the South then would think you are full of shit. 4.5 million

Probably a quarter of whites were against secession, so that would equal another 1.25 million

So 5.75 million of 9 million opposed secession.

Yup, probably a slight majority of southerners opposed secession and the CSA.

bigreb writes, "I deal more with reference research information" without having the slightest idea what it means.

Starkey you wouldn't know the Truth if it bit you in the ass, you fucking lying piece of shyte.

Ad hom when you can't refute the facts.

The CSA was a criminal state, it was apprehended, and it was executed.
 
[What I was calling bull shit on was the good portion of the south part. it's bull shit and you know it is.

Well, I am sure 99% of the blacks in the South then would think you are full of shit. 4.5 million

Probably a quarter of whites were against secession, so that would equal another 1.25 million

So 5.75 million of 9 million opposed secession.

Yup, probably a slight majority of southerners opposed secession and the CSA.

you said a good portion hated the Confederacy
Jake the south only had 5,447,220 whites in 1860
 
ummm..... footnotes are footnotes. Do you dispute them? You can't because you, & JimCrowie1958 for that matter, haven't troubled yourselves w/ providing any sources here so why would you seek out sourced material anyway (not that I think either of you are able) Both of you retards stop wasting our time w/ your "opinions". :eusa_hand:

I read that book 10+ yrs ago. Wonder if bigrebnc or JimCrowie1958 have? :eusa_whistle: :doubt:

I stay away from skewed opinionated books. I deal more with reference research information.

Using words like "lost cause" gives the mentality of the author
 
At the end of the day the hill billies lost the war and received an embarrassing beat down. Their idea that they could hold Black people in bondage failed miserably. Hopefully the portraits will be burned and destroyed fitting with their status of traitors and lazy cowards. I think its a good thing to remove the portraits since they should have been shot for being traitors instead of being hung in a war college. Please let me know when this is done so I can celebrate by throwing darts at recreations of the portraits.
 
[What I was calling bull shit on was the good portion of the south part. it's bull shit and you know it is.

Well, I am sure 99% of the blacks in the South then would think you are full of shit. 4.5 million

Probably a quarter of whites were against secession, so that would equal another 1.25 million

So 5.75 million of 9 million opposed secession.

Yup, probably a slight majority of southerners opposed secession and the CSA.

you said a good portion hated the Confederacy
Jake the south only had 5,447,220 whites in 1860

Son, the 4.5 million blacks were part of the south, so, yes, on number a small majority hated the CSA.

Do you see how your racialism skews your thinking, my boy?
 
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Well, I am sure 99% of the blacks in the South then would think you are full of shit. 4.5 million

Probably a quarter of whites were against secession, so that would equal another 1.25 million

So 5.75 million of 9 million opposed secession.

Yup, probably a slight majority of southerners opposed secession and the CSA.

you said a good portion hated the Confederacy
Jake the south only had 5,447,220 whites in 1860

Son, the 4.5 million blacks were part of the south, so, yes, on number a small majority hated the CSA.

Do you see how your racialism skews your thinking, my boy?

Why would slaves care about secession one way or the other? stay in the union the federal government protected slavery
Yes I see how racism skews your thinking.
 
Conservative estimate = over 100,000 White Southerners left the CSA to fight for the Union.

Every Southern state except South Carolina raised at least a battalion of Southern Unionists.

[Lincoln's Loyalists: Union Soldiers from the Confederacy]

[Also: "...some 100,000 white southerners (along with 150,000 blacks) — at least one battalion of white troops from every Confederate state except South Carolina — served in Union armies during the course of the war. " ]
Mackubin Thomas Owens on Cold Mountain on National Review Online

Other estimates place it well over a quarter million.

When I see someone use the phrase "lost cause" I see a skewed view. From my research I can't see any where near 100,000 leaving their home and country to fight for another country.
er, the phrase "Lost Cause" in reference to the CW originated from a Confederate writer, just a year after the war ended.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/The-Lost-Cause-Southern-Confederates/dp/1410215660"]The Lost Cause: A New Southern History of the War of the Confederates: Edward A. Pollard: 9781410215666: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]

The term "Lost Cause" is not a product of today's historians; rather, it appears to have been coined by Edward A. Pollard, an influential wartime editor of the Richmond Examiner. In 1866 Pollard published The Lost Cause: A New Southern History of the War of the Confederates, a justification of the Confederate war effort, prompting the popular use of the term.

Encyclopedia Virginia: Lost Cause, The
 
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