Explosive intervention by Pope Francis set to transform climate change debate

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I'm sexually attracted to me ...

No shit? There's a news flash.

Let's review... and you feel free to point to ANY part of "The ARGUMENT" that you find to be incorrect... then state the reason why you disagree:

Understand that what we're discussing here is sexual deviancy.

The notion that a sexual deviant; which is to say one whose sexual cravings deviate from the human sexual standard, to the point that they... say, crave sexual gratification through sexual interaction with the person of the same gender, would be limited to such, is fairly short cited.

This is because, in terms of the scope of deviating from the human sexual standard, homosexuality deviates as far from that standard as is possible, where the subjects at issue remain exclusively human.

Thus the subject: homo-sexual deviancy, spans the ENTIRE FIELD of possible deviations from the human sexual standard... . Therefore all bets with regard to any lines that they may draw, are off, as they've drawn no line between normality and the antithesis of such... ergo; they could't give a red rats ass about any lines. All they are concerned with is their own subjective needs and getting those would-be itches, scratched.

 

[Socialist]

What's he gonna do? Part the Red Sea?

He's going to call on catholics and others to realize the reality of climate change and the growing worldwide inequality.

So the pope is a climate expert?

He listens to scientists who actually study the climate, and looks at the evidence, while listening to what the bible says about taking care of the planet.

Nah..I think it's more likely the early onset of senility.

The climate change deniers are just like those who deny evolution...

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

All socialists promote is collective ownership of production...

The only viable means that the collective owns production, is where the individual owns their production and by natural extension, the sum of individuals OKA: the Collective owns production.

Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine, along with other examples of socialism. The collevtive is comprised of people making democratic decisions .=.

Democracy is the path socialism takes to communism.

 

[Socialist]

I'm sexually attracted to me ...

No shit? There's a news flash.

Let's review... and you feel free to point to ANY part of "The ARGUMENT" that you find to be incorrect... then state the reason why you disagree:

Understand that what we're discussing here is sexual deviancy.

The notion that a sexual deviant; which is to say one whose sexual cravings deviate from the human sexual standard, to the point that they... say, crave sexual gratification through sexual interaction with the person of the same gender, would be limited to such, is fairly short cited.

This is because, in terms of the scope of deviating from the human sexual standard, homosexuality deviates as far from that standard as is possible, where the subjects at issue remain exclusively human.

Thus the subject: homo-sexual deviancy, spans the ENTIRE FIELD of possible deviations from the human sexual standard... . Therefore all bets with regard to any lines that they may draw, are off, as they've drawn no line between normality and the antithesis of such... ergo; they could't give a red rats ass about any lines. All they are concerned with is their own subjective needs and getting those would-be itches, scratched.

I didn't say I'm sexually attracted to me, I said men. Fix your quote. Your entire little rant lacks any logical basis in reality, I don't choose to be sexually attracted to men, and your rhetoric is what millions of homosexuals worldwide have to deal with, and unfortunately, it leads to horrible things, including death, threats, and bullshit against the lgbt community.

 

[Socialist]

All socialists promote is collective ownership of production...

The only viable means that the collective owns production, is where the individual owns their production and by natural extension, the sum of individuals OKA: the Collective owns production.

Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine, along with other examples of socialism. The collevtive is comprised of people making democratic decisions .=.

Democracy is the path socialism takes to communism.

Hey, if socialism leads to actual communism, I'm all for it, a society with unlimited surplus, no hierarchical state?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What's he gonna do? Part the Red Sea?

He's going to call on catholics and others to realize the reality of climate change and the growing worldwide inequality.

So the pope is a climate expert?

He listens to scientists who actually study the climate, and looks at the evidence, while listening to what the bible says about taking care of the planet.

Nah..I think it's more likely the early onset of senility.

The climate change deniers are just like those who deny evolution...

I guess you'll have to discuss that with people who deny evolution.

 

[Rozman]

Christians better fall in line with climate change or they don't go to Heaven....

 

[kaz]

I'm starting to like this pope more and more..

Pope Francis will call for an ethical and economic revolution to prevent catastrophic climate change and growing inequality in a letter to the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics on Thursday.

In an unprecedented encyclical on the subject of the environment, the pontiff is expected to argue that humanity’s exploitation of the planet’s resources has crossed the Earth’s natural boundaries, and that the world faces ruin without a revolution in hearts and minds. The much-anticipated message, which will be sent to the world’s 5,000 Catholic bishops, will be published online in five languages on Thursday and is expected to be the most radical statement yet from the outspoken pontiff.

However, it is certain to anger sections of Republican opinion in America by endorsing the warnings of climate scientists and admonishing rich elites, say cardinals and scientists who have advised the Vatican.

The Ghanaian cardinal, Peter Turkson, president of the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace and a close ally of the pope, will launch the encyclical. He has said it will address the root causes of poverty and the threats facing nature, or “creation”.

In a recent speech widely regarded as a curtain-raiser to the encyclical, Turkson said: “Much of the world remains in poverty, despite abundant resources, while a privileged global elite controls the bulk of the world’s wealth and consumes the bulk of its resources.”

The Argentinian pontiff is expected to repeat calls for a change in attitudes to poverty and nature. “An economic system centred on the god of money needs to plunder nature to sustain the frenetic rhythm of consumption that is inherent to it,” he told a meeting of social movements last year. “I think a question that we are not asking ourselves is: isn’t humanity committing suicide with this indiscriminate and tyrannical use of nature? Safeguard creation because, if we destroy it, it will destroy us. Never forget this.”

Explosive intervention by Pope Francis set to transform climate change debate Environment The Guardian

I thought you didn't care what religion thought government should do. Oh wait, that was when they disagreed with you...

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

All socialists promote is collective ownership of production...

The only viable means that the collective owns production, is where the individual owns their production and by natural extension, the sum of individuals OKA: the Collective owns production.

Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine, along with other examples of socialism. The collevtive is comprised of people making democratic decisions .=.

Democracy is the path socialism takes to communism.

Hey, if socialism leads to actual communism, I'm all for it, a society with unlimited surplus, no hierarchical state?

A homo communist? Boy you're all kinds of fucked up!

 

[Socialist]

All socialists promote is collective ownership of production...

The only viable means that the collective owns production, is where the individual owns their production and by natural extension, the sum of individuals OKA: the Collective owns production.

Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine, along with other examples of socialism. The collevtive is comprised of people making democratic decisions .=.

Democracy is the path socialism takes to communism.

Hey, if socialism leads to actual communism, I'm all for it, a society with unlimited surplus, no hierarchical state?

A homo communist? Boy you're all kinds of fucked up!

Democratic socialist, not once in that post did I admit I was a communist, however, if socialism did lead to communism, nothing wrong with that. In all reality, communism is a stateless utopia, unrealistic, but if it happened, hell yeah.

 

[Socialist]

I'm starting to like this pope more and more..

Pope Francis will call for an ethical and economic revolution to prevent catastrophic climate change and growing inequality in a letter to the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics on Thursday.

In an unprecedented encyclical on the subject of the environment, the pontiff is expected to argue that humanity’s exploitation of the planet’s resources has crossed the Earth’s natural boundaries, and that the world faces ruin without a revolution in hearts and minds. The much-anticipated message, which will be sent to the world’s 5,000 Catholic bishops, will be published online in five languages on Thursday and is expected to be the most radical statement yet from the outspoken pontiff.

However, it is certain to anger sections of Republican opinion in America by endorsing the warnings of climate scientists and admonishing rich elites, say cardinals and scientists who have advised the Vatican.

The Ghanaian cardinal, Peter Turkson, president of the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace and a close ally of the pope, will launch the encyclical. He has said it will address the root causes of poverty and the threats facing nature, or “creation”.

In a recent speech widely regarded as a curtain-raiser to the encyclical, Turkson said: “Much of the world remains in poverty, despite abundant resources, while a privileged global elite controls the bulk of the world’s wealth and consumes the bulk of its resources.”

The Argentinian pontiff is expected to repeat calls for a change in attitudes to poverty and nature. “An economic system centred on the god of money needs to plunder nature to sustain the frenetic rhythm of consumption that is inherent to it,” he told a meeting of social movements last year. “I think a question that we are not asking ourselves is: isn’t humanity committing suicide with this indiscriminate and tyrannical use of nature? Safeguard creation because, if we destroy it, it will destroy us. Never forget this.”

Explosive intervention by Pope Francis set to transform climate change debate Environment The Guardian

I thought you didn't care what religion thought government should do. Oh wait, that was when they disagreed with you...

What are you on about now? Go back to your bubble.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The only viable means that the collective owns production, is where the individual owns their production and by natural extension, the sum of individuals OKA: the Collective owns production.

Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine, along with other examples of socialism. The collevtive is comprised of people making democratic decisions .=.

Democracy is the path socialism takes to communism.

Hey, if socialism leads to actual communism, I'm all for it, a society with unlimited surplus, no hierarchical state?

A homo communist? Boy you're all kinds of fucked up!

Democratic socialist, not once in that post did I admit I was a communist, however, if socialism did lead to communism, nothing wrong with that. In all reality, communism is a stateless utopia, unrealistic, but if it happened, hell yeah.

If it wasnt for that pesky thing called human nature.
And of course the ruling elite.

 

[Socialist]

He's going to call on catholics and others to realize the reality of climate change and the growing worldwide inequality.

So the pope is a climate expert?

He listens to scientists who actually study the climate, and looks at the evidence, while listening to what the bible says about taking care of the planet.

Nah..I think it's more likely the early onset of senility.

The climate change deniers are just like those who deny evolution...

I guess you'll have to discuss that with people who deny evolution.

I've found many climate change deniers also deny evolution, or atleast homo-sapien evolution.

 

[Socialist]

Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine, along with other examples of socialism. The collevtive is comprised of people making democratic decisions .=.

Democracy is the path socialism takes to communism.

Hey, if socialism leads to actual communism, I'm all for it, a society with unlimited surplus, no hierarchical state?

A homo communist? Boy you're all kinds of fucked up!

Democratic socialist, not once in that post did I admit I was a communist, however, if socialism did lead to communism, nothing wrong with that. In all reality, communism is a stateless utopia, unrealistic, but if it happened, hell yeah.

If it wasnt for that pesky thing called human nature.
And of course the ruling elite.

"Observes humans under capitalism for several centuries, ignores the majority of human history where we essentially had "pritimitve communism." Claims to understand human nature. Quit kidding yourself. The ruling elite? Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine.

 

[Socialist]

Christians better fall in line with climate change or they don't go to Heaven....

Hey, the bible says we need to take care of the planet..

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Democracy is the path socialism takes to communism.

Hey, if socialism leads to actual communism, I'm all for it, a society with unlimited surplus, no hierarchical state?

A homo communist? Boy you're all kinds of fucked up!

Democratic socialist, not once in that post did I admit I was a communist, however, if socialism did lead to communism, nothing wrong with that. In all reality, communism is a stateless utopia, unrealistic, but if it happened, hell yeah.

If it wasnt for that pesky thing called human nature.
And of course the ruling elite.

"Observes humans under capitalism for several centuries, ignores the majority of human history where we essentially had "pritimitve communism." Claims to understand human nature. Quit kidding yourself. The ruling elite? Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine.

How about you show me those wildly successful communist countries?
Which failed because of human nature by the way.

 

[Socialist]

Hey, if socialism leads to actual communism, I'm all for it, a society with unlimited surplus, no hierarchical state?

A homo communist? Boy you're all kinds of fucked up!

Democratic socialist, not once in that post did I admit I was a communist, however, if socialism did lead to communism, nothing wrong with that. In all reality, communism is a stateless utopia, unrealistic, but if it happened, hell yeah.

If it wasnt for that pesky thing called human nature.
And of course the ruling elite.

"Observes humans under capitalism for several centuries, ignores the majority of human history where we essentially had "pritimitve communism." Claims to understand human nature. Quit kidding yourself. The ruling elite? Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine.

How about you show me those wildly successful communist countries?
Which failed because of human nature by the way.

A "communist" society would have no state, so you're referring to leninist/maoist states, etc, and can you define what human nature is for me? It seems to be the go to copout people use that only works if you ignore anthropology, history, and lack common sense, which is true of most morons throwing out two words and failing to examine actual examples of anarchist/socialist societies, along with most of human history, but none the less, when you claim "wildly successful" what measures are we going off of? Life expectancy? Women's rights? GDP? Poverty reduction? Housing? Food intake? Infant mortality? Literacy?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

A homo communist? Boy you're all kinds of fucked up!

Democratic socialist, not once in that post did I admit I was a communist, however, if socialism did lead to communism, nothing wrong with that. In all reality, communism is a stateless utopia, unrealistic, but if it happened, hell yeah.

If it wasnt for that pesky thing called human nature.
And of course the ruling elite.

"Observes humans under capitalism for several centuries, ignores the majority of human history where we essentially had "pritimitve communism." Claims to understand human nature. Quit kidding yourself. The ruling elite? Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine.

How about you show me those wildly successful communist countries?
Which failed because of human nature by the way.

A "communist" society would have no state, so you're referring to leninist/maoist states, etc, and can you define what human nature is for me? It seems to be the go to copout people use that only works if you ignore anthropology, history, and lack common sense, which is true of most morons throwing out two words and failing to examine actual examples of anarchist/socialist societies, along with most of human history, but none the less, when you claim "wildly successful" what measures are we going off of? Life expectancy? Women's rights? GDP? Poverty reduction? Housing? Food intake? Infant mortality? Literacy?

A fine example is what obamacare is doing to to medicine.
Doctors are leaving medicine because of the coast increase of doing busness.
Money is the great motivator.

 

[Socialist]

Democratic socialist, not once in that post did I admit I was a communist, however, if socialism did lead to communism, nothing wrong with that. In all reality, communism is a stateless utopia, unrealistic, but if it happened, hell yeah.

If it wasnt for that pesky thing called human nature.
And of course the ruling elite.

"Observes humans under capitalism for several centuries, ignores the majority of human history where we essentially had "pritimitve communism." Claims to understand human nature. Quit kidding yourself. The ruling elite? Tell me more about catalonia and the free ukraine.

How about you show me those wildly successful communist countries?
Which failed because of human nature by the way.

A "communist" society would have no state, so you're referring to leninist/maoist states, etc, and can you define what human nature is for me? It seems to be the go to copout people use that only works if you ignore anthropology, history, and lack common sense, which is true of most morons throwing out two words and failing to examine actual examples of anarchist/socialist societies, along with most of human history, but none the less, when you claim "wildly successful" what measures are we going off of? Life expectancy? Women's rights? GDP? Poverty reduction? Housing? Food intake? Infant mortality? Literacy?

A fine example is what obamacare is doing to to medicine.
Doctors are leaving medicine because of the coast increase of doing busness.
Money is the great motivator.

Obamacare goes through the private sector, if you want to debunk your hilarious bullshit...
Money is the great motivator in a capitalist society, it wasn't for the majority of human history, but keep fantasizing. One could easily argue feudalism was human nature at the time,
Universal health coverage by country - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
WHO Universal health coverage

 

[bripat9643]

We reject this Marxist "Pope"

The pope is certainly not a marxist, and even if he was, he is simply someone who holds a worldview based on dialectical materialism, again, marxism is just a worldview, unless you refer to marxism-leninism,Maoism,etc..

"Marxism is just a world view?" So was Nazism, numskull.

Marxism is a worldview, many modern marxists find their homes in university settings, and nazism is a worldview, until someone acts on it. There is nothing to act on within marxism unless you go towards its extensions.

The Ten Planks of the
Communist Manifesto
1848 by Karl Heinrich Marx​

1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
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