FDR knew!

[rightwinger]

He actively implemented a plan to position Japan into attacking, knew it was coming, and purposely refused to warn anyone.Government is a most heinous force. Happy Pearl Harbor day.

I don't know if that's true but I have read F.D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the Japanese attack.
Some says he didn't do anything because he wanted to start a war against Germany and Italy and he needed some "excuse".
This "excuse" was needed because the vast majority of the Americans didn't want the war

Yanno, ascribing this or that intent to the actions of FDR decades after his death is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel and the Internet makes spreading that sort of tripe practically effortless.

Here's a clue: FDR formally declared war on Japan one day after Pearl Harbor. If war with Germany was his intent, why didn't he announce it then? Why did he wait for Germany to declare war on the US before responding?

Thing is, only the "special" people can see inside a dead man's mind, and because they are "special" they are now certain to insist FDR would have eventually declared war on Germany even without Hitler's declaration but all we really know for sure is that Germany instigated war with the US, just as Japan did by bombing Pearl Harbor.

All the fluff posted by the "special" people here (like Gipper) is just that ... meaningless, baseless, fluff intended to make gullible people believe he's smart and well-informed. He fools only the gullible.

BTW, some of these "special" people - like LARam - still ride on the "special" bus:

If FDR wanted to provoke a war with Germany, he could have done so. Just increasingly supply England with more and more military equipment until Germany has to sink your ships........It got us into WWI

Starting a second front in the Pacific when you really wanted to attack Germany does not make sense

Especially when we were unprepared to fight a war on either front



.

 

[SAYIT]

He actively implemented a plan to position Japan into attacking, knew it was coming, and purposely refused to warn anyone.Government is a most heinous force. Happy Pearl Harbor day.

I don't know if that's true but I have read F.D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the Japanese attack.
Some says he didn't do anything because he wanted to start a war against Germany and Italy and he needed some "excuse".
This "excuse" was needed because the vast majority of the Americans didn't want the war

Yanno, ascribing this or that intent to the actions of FDR decades after his death is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel and the Internet makes spreading that sort of tripe practically effortless.

Here's a clue: FDR formally declared war on Japan one day after Pearl Harbor. If war with Germany was his intent, why didn't he announce it then? Why did he wait for Germany to declare war on the US before responding?

Thing is, only the "special" people can see inside a dead man's mind, and because they are "special" they are now certain to insist FDR would have eventually declared war on Germany even without Hitler's declaration but all we really know for sure is that Germany instigated war with the US, just as Japan did by bombing Pearl Harbor.

All the fluff posted by the "special" people here (like Gipper) is just that ... meaningless, baseless, fluff intended to make gullible people believe he's smart and well-informed. He fools only the gullible.

BTW, some of these "special" people - like LARam - still ride on the "special" bus:

Willful ignorance is always a terrible shame.

FDR actively worked for at least a year to instigate the Japanese attack. He knew it was coming well before Dec 7th...probably by Nov 15th when the Japanese fleet was under way. Refused to warn commanders at Pearl and later scapegoated them. Specifically clearly the ocean of shipping so the Japanese fleet would think they were undetected. Made sure air patrols north of Hawaii were stopped. He had the carriers removed from Pearl leaving only WWI warships that meant nothing...and most were easily put back into service after the attack....He purposely sacrificed Americans killed in the attack, for his heinous purposes.

He had tried desperately to get the Germans to fire on our many warships helping the Brits, since early 1940...but Hitler would not take the bait. He lied repeatedly to the American people during the 1940 campaign...telling us no american boys would go to war...all the while actively working to get us in the war.

He should have been hung as a traitor.

Seventy-five years after, the Pearl Harbor advance-knowledge conspiracy theory is still considered just a fringe theory by most historians. It is promoted hard by conspiracy theory (and anti-American) web sites such as antiwar.com and whatreallyhappened.com as well as by anti-American and anti-gov't loons (including but not limited to libertarian/anarchists).

A central plank of the conspiracy was a telegram from Churchill to Roosevelt said to be in a secret file the government had withheld from the Public Record Office. That file has now been released. There is no telegram and it seems there probably never was.

 

[gipper]

He actively implemented a plan to position Japan into attacking, knew it was coming, and purposely refused to warn anyone.Government is a most heinous force. Happy Pearl Harbor day.

I don't know if that's true but I have read F.D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the Japanese attack.
Some says he didn't do anything because he wanted to start a war against Germany and Italy and he needed some "excuse".
This "excuse" was needed because the vast majority of the Americans didn't want the war

Yanno, ascribing this or that intent to the actions of FDR decades after his death is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel and the Internet makes spreading that sort of tripe practically effortless.

Here's a clue: FDR formally declared war on Japan one day after Pearl Harbor. If war with Germany was his intent, why didn't he announce it then? Why did he wait for Germany to declare war on the US before responding?

Thing is, only the "special" people can see inside a dead man's mind, and because they are "special" they are now certain to insist FDR would have eventually declared war on Germany even without Hitler's declaration but all we really know for sure is that Germany instigated war with the US, just as Japan did by bombing Pearl Harbor.

All the fluff posted by the "special" people here (like Gipper) is just that ... meaningless, baseless, fluff intended to make gullible people believe he's smart and well-informed. He fools only the gullible.

BTW, some of these "special" people - like LARam - still ride on the "special" bus:

Willful ignorance is always a terrible shame.

FDR actively worked for at least a year to instigate the Japanese attack. He knew it was coming well before Dec 7th...probably by Nov 15th when the Japanese fleet was under way. Refused to warn commanders at Pearl and later scapegoated them. Specifically clearly the ocean of shipping so the Japanese fleet would think they were undetected. Made sure air patrols north of Hawaii were stopped. He had the carriers removed from Pearl leaving only WWI warships that meant nothing...and most were easily put back into service after the attack....He purposely sacrificed Americans killed in the attack, for his heinous purposes.

He had tried desperately to get the Germans to fire on our many warships helping the Brits, since early 1940...but Hitler would not take the bait. He lied repeatedly to the American people during the 1940 campaign...telling us no american boys would go to war...all the while actively working to get us in the war.

He should have been hung as a traitor.

Seventy-five years after, the Pearl Harbor, the advance-knowledge conspiracy theory is still considered just a fringe theory by most historians. It is promoted hard by conspiracy theory (and anti-American) web sites such as antiwar.com and whatreallyhappened.com as well as by anti-American and anti-gov't loons (including but not limited to libertarian/anarchists).

A central plank of the conspiracy was a telegram from Churchill to Roosevelt said to be in a secret file the government had withheld from the Public Record Office. That file has now been released. There is no telegram and it seems there probably never was.

silly.

We have thousands of years of history showing politicians/leaders committing all kinds of heinous covert actions to start wars, yet you think FDR deserves our praise. Stop believing government historians...they are court jesters. Government IS a conspiracy...how could you not know this after 4000 years of historical proof

Can't fix stupid.

 

[rightwinger]

He actively implemented a plan to position Japan into attacking, knew it was coming, and purposely refused to warn anyone.Government is a most heinous force. Happy Pearl Harbor day.

I don't know if that's true but I have read F.D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the Japanese attack.
Some says he didn't do anything because he wanted to start a war against Germany and Italy and he needed some "excuse".
This "excuse" was needed because the vast majority of the Americans didn't want the war

Yanno, ascribing this or that intent to the actions of FDR decades after his death is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel and the Internet makes spreading that sort of tripe practically effortless.

Here's a clue: FDR formally declared war on Japan one day after Pearl Harbor. If war with Germany was his intent, why didn't he announce it then? Why did he wait for Germany to declare war on the US before responding?

Thing is, only the "special" people can see inside a dead man's mind, and because they are "special" they are now certain to insist FDR would have eventually declared war on Germany even without Hitler's declaration but all we really know for sure is that Germany instigated war with the US, just as Japan did by bombing Pearl Harbor.

All the fluff posted by the "special" people here (like Gipper) is just that ... meaningless, baseless, fluff intended to make gullible people believe he's smart and well-informed. He fools only the gullible.

BTW, some of these "special" people - like LARam - still ride on the "special" bus:

Willful ignorance is always a terrible shame.

FDR actively worked for at least a year to instigate the Japanese attack. He knew it was coming well before Dec 7th...probably by Nov 15th when the Japanese fleet was under way. Refused to warn commanders at Pearl and later scapegoated them. Specifically clearly the ocean of shipping so the Japanese fleet would think they were undetected. Made sure air patrols north of Hawaii were stopped. He had the carriers removed from Pearl leaving only WWI warships that meant nothing...and most were easily put back into service after the attack....He purposely sacrificed Americans killed in the attack, for his heinous purposes.

He had tried desperately to get the Germans to fire on our many warships helping the Brits, since early 1940...but Hitler would not take the bait. He lied repeatedly to the American people during the 1940 campaign...telling us no american boys would go to war...all the while actively working to get us in the war.

He should have been hung as a traitor.

Seventy-five years after, the Pearl Harbor, the advance-knowledge conspiracy theory is still considered just a fringe theory by most historians. It is promoted hard by conspiracy theory (and anti-American) web sites such as antiwar.com and whatreallyhappened.com as well as by anti-American and anti-gov't loons (including but not limited to libertarian/anarchists).

A central plank of the conspiracy was a telegram from Churchill to Roosevelt said to be in a secret file the government had withheld from the Public Record Office. That file has now been released. There is no telegram and it seems there probably never was.

Intelligence is a remarkable thing. Thousands upon thousands of "hints" of what may occur. Going back after the fact and picking out those hints that were accurate and proclaiming....you should have known ...is nothing but Monday Morning Quarterbacking

There were no reports of "Pearl Harbor will be attacked on December 7 at 8AM"

There were reports of increasing Japanese belligerence and additional military action. However, it was assumed that the most likely attacks would occur in the Philippines and Southeast Asia. The ability to launch a major attack on a base so distant from Japan was not considered a significant threat. The threat to Pearl Harbor was considered to be sabotage not an aerial attack

 

[gipper]

He actively implemented a plan to position Japan into attacking, knew it was coming, and purposely refused to warn anyone.Government is a most heinous force. Happy Pearl Harbor day.

I don't know if that's true but I have read F.D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the Japanese attack.
Some says he didn't do anything because he wanted to start a war against Germany and Italy and he needed some "excuse".
This "excuse" was needed because the vast majority of the Americans didn't want the war

Yanno, ascribing this or that intent to the actions of FDR decades after his death is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel and the Internet makes spreading that sort of tripe practically effortless.

Here's a clue: FDR formally declared war on Japan one day after Pearl Harbor. If war with Germany was his intent, why didn't he announce it then? Why did he wait for Germany to declare war on the US before responding?

Thing is, only the "special" people can see inside a dead man's mind, and because they are "special" they are now certain to insist FDR would have eventually declared war on Germany even without Hitler's declaration but all we really know for sure is that Germany instigated war with the US, just as Japan did by bombing Pearl Harbor.

All the fluff posted by the "special" people here (like Gipper) is just that ... meaningless, baseless, fluff intended to make gullible people believe he's smart and well-informed. He fools only the gullible.

BTW, some of these "special" people - like LARam - still ride on the "special" bus:

Willful ignorance is always a terrible shame.

FDR actively worked for at least a year to instigate the Japanese attack. He knew it was coming well before Dec 7th...probably by Nov 15th when the Japanese fleet was under way. Refused to warn commanders at Pearl and later scapegoated them. Specifically clearly the ocean of shipping so the Japanese fleet would think they were undetected. Made sure air patrols north of Hawaii were stopped. He had the carriers removed from Pearl leaving only WWI warships that meant nothing...and most were easily put back into service after the attack....He purposely sacrificed Americans killed in the attack, for his heinous purposes.

He had tried desperately to get the Germans to fire on our many warships helping the Brits, since early 1940...but Hitler would not take the bait. He lied repeatedly to the American people during the 1940 campaign...telling us no american boys would go to war...all the while actively working to get us in the war.

He should have been hung as a traitor.

Seventy-five years after, the Pearl Harbor, the advance-knowledge conspiracy theory is still considered just a fringe theory by most historians. It is promoted hard by conspiracy theory (and anti-American) web sites such as antiwar.com and whatreallyhappened.com as well as by anti-American and anti-gov't loons (including but not limited to libertarian/anarchists).

A central plank of the conspiracy was a telegram from Churchill to Roosevelt said to be in a secret file the government had withheld from the Public Record Office. That file has now been released. There is no telegram and it seems there probably never was.

Intelligence is a remarkable thing. Thousands upon thousands of "hints" of what may occur. Going back after the fact and picking out those hints that were accurate and proclaiming....you should have known ...is nothing but Monday Morning Quarterbacking

There were no reports of "Pearl Harbor will be attacked on December 7 at 8AM"

There were reports of increasing Japanese belligerence and additional military action. However, it was assumed that the most likely attacks would occur in the Philippines and Southeast Asia. The ability to launch a major attack on a base so distant from Japan was not considered a significant threat. The threat to Pearl Harbor was considered to be sabotage not an aerial attack

Hang him!!!



Hang him high!!!!

 

[gipper]

He actively implemented a plan to position Japan into attacking, knew it was coming, and purposely refused to warn anyone.Government is a most heinous force. Happy Pearl Harbor day.

I don't know if that's true but I have read F.D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the Japanese attack.
Some says he didn't do anything because he wanted to start a war against Germany and Italy and he needed some "excuse".
This "excuse" was needed because the vast majority of the Americans didn't want the war

Yanno, ascribing this or that intent to the actions of FDR decades after his death is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel and the Internet makes spreading that sort of tripe practically effortless.

Here's a clue: FDR formally declared war on Japan one day after Pearl Harbor. If war with Germany was his intent, why didn't he announce it then? Why did he wait for Germany to declare war on the US before responding?

Thing is, only the "special" people can see inside a dead man's mind, and because they are "special" they are now certain to insist FDR would have eventually declared war on Germany even without Hitler's declaration but all we really know for sure is that Germany instigated war with the US, just as Japan did by bombing Pearl Harbor.

All the fluff posted by the "special" people here (like Gipper) is just that ... meaningless, baseless, fluff intended to make gullible people believe he's smart and well-informed. He fools only the gullible.

BTW, some of these "special" people - like LARam - still ride on the "special" bus:

Willful ignorance is always a terrible shame.

FDR actively worked for at least a year to instigate the Japanese attack. He knew it was coming well before Dec 7th...probably by Nov 15th when the Japanese fleet was under way. Refused to warn commanders at Pearl and later scapegoated them. Specifically clearly the ocean of shipping so the Japanese fleet would think they were undetected. Made sure air patrols north of Hawaii were stopped. He had the carriers removed from Pearl leaving only WWI warships that meant nothing...and most were easily put back into service after the attack....He purposely sacrificed Americans killed in the attack, for his heinous purposes.

He had tried desperately to get the Germans to fire on our many warships helping the Brits, since early 1940...but Hitler would not take the bait. He lied repeatedly to the American people during the 1940 campaign...telling us no american boys would go to war...all the while actively working to get us in the war.

He should have been hung as a traitor.

Seventy-five years after, the Pearl Harbor, the advance-knowledge conspiracy theory is still considered just a fringe theory by most historians. It is promoted hard by conspiracy theory (and anti-American) web sites such as antiwar.com and whatreallyhappened.com as well as by anti-American and anti-gov't loons (including but not limited to libertarian/anarchists).

A central plank of the conspiracy was a telegram from Churchill to Roosevelt said to be in a secret file the government had withheld from the Public Record Office. That file has now been released. There is no telegram and it seems there probably never was.

Intelligence is a remarkable thing. Thousands upon thousands of "hints" of what may occur. Going back after the fact and picking out those hints that were accurate and proclaiming....you should have known ...is nothing but Monday Morning Quarterbacking

There were no reports of "Pearl Harbor will be attacked on December 7 at 8AM"

There were reports of increasing Japanese belligerence and additional military action. However, it was assumed that the most likely attacks would occur in the Philippines and Southeast Asia. The ability to launch a major attack on a base so distant from Japan was not considered a significant threat. The threat to Pearl Harbor was considered to be sabotage not an aerial attack

Yeah...we mustn't criticize our lying corrupt criminal leaders...Big Brother does not like that.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't know if that's true but I have read F.D.Roosevelt was warned three days before the Japanese attack.
Some says he didn't do anything because he wanted to start a war against Germany and Italy and he needed some "excuse".
This "excuse" was needed because the vast majority of the Americans didn't want the war

Yanno, ascribing this or that intent to the actions of FDR decades after his death is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel and the Internet makes spreading that sort of tripe practically effortless.

Here's a clue: FDR formally declared war on Japan one day after Pearl Harbor. If war with Germany was his intent, why didn't he announce it then? Why did he wait for Germany to declare war on the US before responding?

Thing is, only the "special" people can see inside a dead man's mind, and because they are "special" they are now certain to insist FDR would have eventually declared war on Germany even without Hitler's declaration but all we really know for sure is that Germany instigated war with the US, just as Japan did by bombing Pearl Harbor.

All the fluff posted by the "special" people here (like Gipper) is just that ... meaningless, baseless, fluff intended to make gullible people believe he's smart and well-informed. He fools only the gullible.

BTW, some of these "special" people - like LARam - still ride on the "special" bus:

Willful ignorance is always a terrible shame.

FDR actively worked for at least a year to instigate the Japanese attack. He knew it was coming well before Dec 7th...probably by Nov 15th when the Japanese fleet was under way. Refused to warn commanders at Pearl and later scapegoated them. Specifically clearly the ocean of shipping so the Japanese fleet would think they were undetected. Made sure air patrols north of Hawaii were stopped. He had the carriers removed from Pearl leaving only WWI warships that meant nothing...and most were easily put back into service after the attack....He purposely sacrificed Americans killed in the attack, for his heinous purposes.

He had tried desperately to get the Germans to fire on our many warships helping the Brits, since early 1940...but Hitler would not take the bait. He lied repeatedly to the American people during the 1940 campaign...telling us no american boys would go to war...all the while actively working to get us in the war.

He should have been hung as a traitor.

Seventy-five years after, the Pearl Harbor, the advance-knowledge conspiracy theory is still considered just a fringe theory by most historians. It is promoted hard by conspiracy theory (and anti-American) web sites such as antiwar.com and whatreallyhappened.com as well as by anti-American and anti-gov't loons (including but not limited to libertarian/anarchists).

A central plank of the conspiracy was a telegram from Churchill to Roosevelt said to be in a secret file the government had withheld from the Public Record Office. That file has now been released. There is no telegram and it seems there probably never was.

Intelligence is a remarkable thing. Thousands upon thousands of "hints" of what may occur. Going back after the fact and picking out those hints that were accurate and proclaiming....you should have known ...is nothing but Monday Morning Quarterbacking

There were no reports of "Pearl Harbor will be attacked on December 7 at 8AM"

There were reports of increasing Japanese belligerence and additional military action. However, it was assumed that the most likely attacks would occur in the Philippines and Southeast Asia. The ability to launch a major attack on a base so distant from Japan was not considered a significant threat. The threat to Pearl Harbor was considered to be sabotage not an aerial attack

Yeah...we mustn't criticize our lying corrupt criminal leaders...Big Brother does not like that.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

By rights, and by strategic consideration, Japan should have declared war on the USSR and left the USA alone. However, Soviet spies in the USA and Japan put us on a collision course. The greatest benefactor of the Pearl Harbor attack was the USSR.

In December 1941 the Germans had the spires of the Kremlin in their field glasses. A war against Japan would have diverted resources away from defense against the Germans

Draw Play

The Soviet Union had already won its war against Japan in the summer of 1939 at Khalkhin Gol in Mongolia. On December 7, 1941, Stalin revealed his retreat had been faked. He had suckered the Nazi blitzkrieg into overextending the German supply lines. His real army had been ready and waiting all the time just beyond Moscow. He also suckered FDR into provoking the Japanese because he made it look like Hitler would soon have the overpowering advantage of a complete conquest of Russia and its crucial oilfields.

Where were those crucial oil fields you speak of?

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

 

[Camp]

By rights, and by strategic consideration, Japan should have declared war on the USSR and left the USA alone. However, Soviet spies in the USA and Japan put us on a collision course. The greatest benefactor of the Pearl Harbor attack was the USSR.

In December 1941 the Germans had the spires of the Kremlin in their field glasses. A war against Japan would have diverted resources away from defense against the Germans

Draw Play

The Soviet Union had already won its war against Japan in the summer of 1939 at Khalkhin Gol in Mongolia. On December 7, 1941, Stalin revealed his retreat had been faked. He had suckered the Nazi blitzkrieg into overextending the German supply lines. His real army had been ready and waiting all the time just beyond Moscow. He also suckered FDR into provoking the Japanese because he made it look like Hitler would soon have the overpowering advantage of a complete conquest of Russia and its crucial oilfields.

Where were those crucial oil fields you speak of?

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

 

[regent]

Japan needed oil, and we stopped selling them oil, scrap metal and other resources their islands didn't have. Since Japan was using our materials to kill Chinese we stopped selling them war materials.
Did Japan expect to defeat the US? Probably not, it seems her strategy was to take as much Pacific territory as possible and cause tremendous Americans casualties in capturing those islands, The US would not accept the casualties and would negotiate peace terms with Japan and Japan would get islands with oil.

 

[rightwinger]

By rights, and by strategic consideration, Japan should have declared war on the USSR and left the USA alone. However, Soviet spies in the USA and Japan put us on a collision course. The greatest benefactor of the Pearl Harbor attack was the USSR.

In December 1941 the Germans had the spires of the Kremlin in their field glasses. A war against Japan would have diverted resources away from defense against the Germans

Draw Play

The Soviet Union had already won its war against Japan in the summer of 1939 at Khalkhin Gol in Mongolia. On December 7, 1941, Stalin revealed his retreat had been faked. He had suckered the Nazi blitzkrieg into overextending the German supply lines. His real army had been ready and waiting all the time just beyond Moscow. He also suckered FDR into provoking the Japanese because he made it look like Hitler would soon have the overpowering advantage of a complete conquest of Russia and its crucial oilfields.

Where were those crucial oil fields you speak of?

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

It was FDR who manipulated Stalin in forcing him to do the majority of the fighting and dying to defeat the Nazis.
Stalin killed ten times the number of Nazis and gave up twenty times the number of deaths and we got half the territory.

FDR knew what he was doing

 

[Camp]

By rights, and by strategic consideration, Japan should have declared war on the USSR and left the USA alone. However, Soviet spies in the USA and Japan put us on a collision course. The greatest benefactor of the Pearl Harbor attack was the USSR.

In December 1941 the Germans had the spires of the Kremlin in their field glasses. A war against Japan would have diverted resources away from defense against the Germans

Draw Play

The Soviet Union had already won its war against Japan in the summer of 1939 at Khalkhin Gol in Mongolia. On December 7, 1941, Stalin revealed his retreat had been faked. He had suckered the Nazi blitzkrieg into overextending the German supply lines. His real army had been ready and waiting all the time just beyond Moscow. He also suckered FDR into provoking the Japanese because he made it look like Hitler would soon have the overpowering advantage of a complete conquest of Russia and its crucial oilfields.

Where were those crucial oil fields you speak of?

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

It was FDR who manipulated Stalin in forcing him to do the majority of the fighting and dying to defeat the Nazis.
Stalin killed ten times the number of Nazis and gave up twenty times the number of deaths and we got half the territory.

FDR knew what he was doing

The Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories are particularly easy to disprove. Numerous Congressional investigations showed that many mistakes were made by all levels of Military personnel that were in no way connected to or reliant on the civilian leadership. Warnings were sent to Pearl. Unfortunately, the folks in charge of transmitting those warnings used the slowest method of communicating a message available, having not understood the importance of the warning. Radar operators informed the targeted area of a large contingent of aircraft approaching from the west (the Japanese attack force), but the recipient, an officer of the day with a tragic lack of knowledge about the new technology of radar misinterpreted the data and made the huge mistake of brushing off the data by considering the warning to be a smaller fleet of B-17's being delivered later that day, not from the west, but from the east. Intelligence data that confirmed the Japanese had perfected a torpedo could be operated and deployed in the Harbor was not circulated or articulated to the proper Navel personnel or general staff tasked with defense. Pearl Harbor was a shallow harbor. It was believed this made use of torpedo's impossible. The average depth of 45 feet was not enough for a torpedo attack. The launched torpedo would hit the bottom before making it's come back to the surface.

These are some of the factors ignored by the conspiracy buffs.

 

[rightwinger]

Draw Play

The Soviet Union had already won its war against Japan in the summer of 1939 at Khalkhin Gol in Mongolia. On December 7, 1941, Stalin revealed his retreat had been faked. He had suckered the Nazi blitzkrieg into overextending the German supply lines. His real army had been ready and waiting all the time just beyond Moscow. He also suckered FDR into provoking the Japanese because he made it look like Hitler would soon have the overpowering advantage of a complete conquest of Russia and its crucial oilfields.

Where were those crucial oil fields you speak of?

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

It was FDR who manipulated Stalin in forcing him to do the majority of the fighting and dying to defeat the Nazis.
Stalin killed ten times the number of Nazis and gave up twenty times the number of deaths and we got half the territory.

FDR knew what he was doing

The Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories are particularly easy to disprove. Numerous Congressional investigations showed that many mistakes were made by all levels of Military personnel that were in no way connected to or reliant on the civilian leadership. Warnings were sent to Pearl. Unfortunately, the folks in charge of transmitting those warnings used the slowest method of communicating a message available, having not understood the importance of the warning. Radar operators informed the targeted area of a large contingent of aircraft approaching from the west (the Japanese attack force), but the recipient, an officer of the day with a tragic lack of knowledge about the new technology of radar misinterpreted the data and made the huge mistake of brushing off the data by considering the warning to be a smaller fleet of B-17's being delivered later that day, not from the west, but from the east. Intelligence data that confirmed the Japanese had perfected a torpedo could be operated and deployed in the Harbor was not circulated or articulated to the proper Navel personnel or general staff tasked with defense. Pearl Harbor was a shallow harbor. It was believed this made use of torpedo's impossible. The average depth of 45 feet was not enough for a torpedo attack. The launched torpedo would hit the bottom before making it's come back to the surface.

These are some of the factors ignored by the conspiracy buffs.

Even on 9-11 our intelligence community was disjointed and did not share key information between agencies. In WWII, it was even worse......there was no Central Intelligence Agency or NSA to collate and disseminate millions of pieces of information

 

[gipper]

By rights, and by strategic consideration, Japan should have declared war on the USSR and left the USA alone. However, Soviet spies in the USA and Japan put us on a collision course. The greatest benefactor of the Pearl Harbor attack was the USSR.

In December 1941 the Germans had the spires of the Kremlin in their field glasses. A war against Japan would have diverted resources away from defense against the Germans

Draw Play

The Soviet Union had already won its war against Japan in the summer of 1939 at Khalkhin Gol in Mongolia. On December 7, 1941, Stalin revealed his retreat had been faked. He had suckered the Nazi blitzkrieg into overextending the German supply lines. His real army had been ready and waiting all the time just beyond Moscow. He also suckered FDR into provoking the Japanese because he made it look like Hitler would soon have the overpowering advantage of a complete conquest of Russia and its crucial oilfields.

Where were those crucial oil fields you speak of?

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

Here is another great column that should have Statists choking on their breakfast.

FDR KNEW...DID NOTHING...SCAPEGOATED COMMANDERS...TO GET HIS WAR...

HE WAS A TRAITOR AND DESERVED TO BE EXECUTED.

Why Did Japan Choose a Suicidal War in 1941?
By Eric Margolis

December 10, 2016

It seems clear by now that President Franklin Roosevelt’s White House knew from deciphered codes that Japan was planning an attack on America’s key naval base in Hawaii. Shamefully, the senior US Navy and Army commanders at Pearl Harbor were not informed of the impending attack. The US Navy’s three aircraft carriers were coincidentally moved far from harm’s way before the attack, leaving only obsolescent World War I battleships in port as sitting ducks.

Roosevelt was eager to get the United States into war against Germany at all costs. But Americans wanted no part of Europe’s war, recalling how British propaganda had deceived America into World War I. The single largest ethnic group in America was of German origin. In the 1880’s, my native New York City was the third most populous German city on earth after Berlin and Hamburg.

Roosevelt, whose sympathies lay far to the left in spite of his patrician background, understood that only a surprise attack would provoke Americans into war.

At the time, the US supplied 80% of Japan’s oil, 100% of its aviation fuel, and much of its metal. Roosevelt demanded Japan vacate China that it had invaded, or face an embargo of these vital strategic materials on which Japan’s industry depended. Japan’s fascist military government refused, as Washington knew it would. A US embargo ensued.

Japan had a one-year strategic reserve of oil. Its stark choice was either run out of oil, fuel, and scrap steel over 12 months or go to war while it still had these resources. The only other potential source of oil for Japan was the distant Dutch East Indies, today Indonesia.

 

[rightwinger]

By rights, and by strategic consideration, Japan should have declared war on the USSR and left the USA alone. However, Soviet spies in the USA and Japan put us on a collision course. The greatest benefactor of the Pearl Harbor attack was the USSR.

In December 1941 the Germans had the spires of the Kremlin in their field glasses. A war against Japan would have diverted resources away from defense against the Germans

Draw Play

The Soviet Union had already won its war against Japan in the summer of 1939 at Khalkhin Gol in Mongolia. On December 7, 1941, Stalin revealed his retreat had been faked. He had suckered the Nazi blitzkrieg into overextending the German supply lines. His real army had been ready and waiting all the time just beyond Moscow. He also suckered FDR into provoking the Japanese because he made it look like Hitler would soon have the overpowering advantage of a complete conquest of Russia and its crucial oilfields.

Where were those crucial oil fields you speak of?

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

Here is another great column that should have Statists choking on their breakfast.

FDR KNEW...DID NOTHING...SCAPEGOATED COMMANDERS...TO GET HIS WAR...

HE WAS A TRAITOR AND DESERVED TO BE EXECUTED.

Why Did Japan Choose a Suicidal War in 1941?
By Eric Margolis

December 10, 2016

It seems clear by now that President Franklin Roosevelt’s White House knew from deciphered codes that Japan was planning an attack on America’s key naval base in Hawaii. Shamefully, the senior US Navy and Army commanders at Pearl Harbor were not informed of the impending attack. The US Navy’s three aircraft carriers were coincidentally moved far from harm’s way before the attack, leaving only obsolescent World War I battleships in port as sitting ducks.

Roosevelt was eager to get the United States into war against Germany at all costs. But Americans wanted no part of Europe’s war, recalling how British propaganda had deceived America into World War I. The single largest ethnic group in America was of German origin. In the 1880’s, my native New York City was the third most populous German city on earth after Berlin and Hamburg.

Roosevelt, whose sympathies lay far to the left in spite of his patrician background, understood that only a surprise attack would provoke Americans into war.

At the time, the US supplied 80% of Japan’s oil, 100% of its aviation fuel, and much of its metal. Roosevelt demanded Japan vacate China that it had invaded, or face an embargo of these vital strategic materials on which Japan’s industry depended. Japan’s fascist military government refused, as Washington knew it would. A US embargo ensued.

Japan had a one-year strategic reserve of oil. Its stark choice was either run out of oil, fuel, and scrap steel over 12 months or go to war while it still had these resources. The only other potential source of oil for Japan was the distant Dutch East Indies, today Indonesia.

Japan had a choice to roll back its militaristic expansion or go to war with the most powerful economy on earth

They chose wrong

 

[gipper]

Draw Play

The Soviet Union had already won its war against Japan in the summer of 1939 at Khalkhin Gol in Mongolia. On December 7, 1941, Stalin revealed his retreat had been faked. He had suckered the Nazi blitzkrieg into overextending the German supply lines. His real army had been ready and waiting all the time just beyond Moscow. He also suckered FDR into provoking the Japanese because he made it look like Hitler would soon have the overpowering advantage of a complete conquest of Russia and its crucial oilfields.

Where were those crucial oil fields you speak of?

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

Here is another great column that should have Statists choking on their breakfast.

FDR KNEW...DID NOTHING...SCAPEGOATED COMMANDERS...TO GET HIS WAR...

HE WAS A TRAITOR AND DESERVED TO BE EXECUTED.

Why Did Japan Choose a Suicidal War in 1941?
By Eric Margolis

December 10, 2016

It seems clear by now that President Franklin Roosevelt’s White House knew from deciphered codes that Japan was planning an attack on America’s key naval base in Hawaii. Shamefully, the senior US Navy and Army commanders at Pearl Harbor were not informed of the impending attack. The US Navy’s three aircraft carriers were coincidentally moved far from harm’s way before the attack, leaving only obsolescent World War I battleships in port as sitting ducks.

Roosevelt was eager to get the United States into war against Germany at all costs. But Americans wanted no part of Europe’s war, recalling how British propaganda had deceived America into World War I. The single largest ethnic group in America was of German origin. In the 1880’s, my native New York City was the third most populous German city on earth after Berlin and Hamburg.

Roosevelt, whose sympathies lay far to the left in spite of his patrician background, understood that only a surprise attack would provoke Americans into war.

At the time, the US supplied 80% of Japan’s oil, 100% of its aviation fuel, and much of its metal. Roosevelt demanded Japan vacate China that it had invaded, or face an embargo of these vital strategic materials on which Japan’s industry depended. Japan’s fascist military government refused, as Washington knew it would. A US embargo ensued.

Japan had a one-year strategic reserve of oil. Its stark choice was either run out of oil, fuel, and scrap steel over 12 months or go to war while it still had these resources. The only other potential source of oil for Japan was the distant Dutch East Indies, today Indonesia.

Japan had a choice to roll back its militaristic expansion or go to war with the most powerful economy on earth

They chose wrong

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

 

[rightwinger]

Where were those crucial oil fields you speak of?

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

Here is another great column that should have Statists choking on their breakfast.

FDR KNEW...DID NOTHING...SCAPEGOATED COMMANDERS...TO GET HIS WAR...

HE WAS A TRAITOR AND DESERVED TO BE EXECUTED.

Why Did Japan Choose a Suicidal War in 1941?
By Eric Margolis

December 10, 2016

It seems clear by now that President Franklin Roosevelt’s White House knew from deciphered codes that Japan was planning an attack on America’s key naval base in Hawaii. Shamefully, the senior US Navy and Army commanders at Pearl Harbor were not informed of the impending attack. The US Navy’s three aircraft carriers were coincidentally moved far from harm’s way before the attack, leaving only obsolescent World War I battleships in port as sitting ducks.

Roosevelt was eager to get the United States into war against Germany at all costs. But Americans wanted no part of Europe’s war, recalling how British propaganda had deceived America into World War I. The single largest ethnic group in America was of German origin. In the 1880’s, my native New York City was the third most populous German city on earth after Berlin and Hamburg.

Roosevelt, whose sympathies lay far to the left in spite of his patrician background, understood that only a surprise attack would provoke Americans into war.

At the time, the US supplied 80% of Japan’s oil, 100% of its aviation fuel, and much of its metal. Roosevelt demanded Japan vacate China that it had invaded, or face an embargo of these vital strategic materials on which Japan’s industry depended. Japan’s fascist military government refused, as Washington knew it would. A US embargo ensued.

Japan had a one-year strategic reserve of oil. Its stark choice was either run out of oil, fuel, and scrap steel over 12 months or go to war while it still had these resources. The only other potential source of oil for Japan was the distant Dutch East Indies, today Indonesia.

Japan had a choice to roll back its militaristic expansion or go to war with the most powerful economy on earth

They chose wrong

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

 

[gipper]

World War II Was All About Oil

Indonesia, which we should let China take now as part of the coalition to partition all Muslim oilfields. Third world savages were the only ones to benefit from advanced nations weakening themselves by fighting World Wars.

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

Here is another great column that should have Statists choking on their breakfast.

FDR KNEW...DID NOTHING...SCAPEGOATED COMMANDERS...TO GET HIS WAR...

HE WAS A TRAITOR AND DESERVED TO BE EXECUTED.

Why Did Japan Choose a Suicidal War in 1941?
By Eric Margolis

December 10, 2016

It seems clear by now that President Franklin Roosevelt’s White House knew from deciphered codes that Japan was planning an attack on America’s key naval base in Hawaii. Shamefully, the senior US Navy and Army commanders at Pearl Harbor were not informed of the impending attack. The US Navy’s three aircraft carriers were coincidentally moved far from harm’s way before the attack, leaving only obsolescent World War I battleships in port as sitting ducks.

Roosevelt was eager to get the United States into war against Germany at all costs. But Americans wanted no part of Europe’s war, recalling how British propaganda had deceived America into World War I. The single largest ethnic group in America was of German origin. In the 1880’s, my native New York City was the third most populous German city on earth after Berlin and Hamburg.

Roosevelt, whose sympathies lay far to the left in spite of his patrician background, understood that only a surprise attack would provoke Americans into war.

At the time, the US supplied 80% of Japan’s oil, 100% of its aviation fuel, and much of its metal. Roosevelt demanded Japan vacate China that it had invaded, or face an embargo of these vital strategic materials on which Japan’s industry depended. Japan’s fascist military government refused, as Washington knew it would. A US embargo ensued.

Japan had a one-year strategic reserve of oil. Its stark choice was either run out of oil, fuel, and scrap steel over 12 months or go to war while it still had these resources. The only other potential source of oil for Japan was the distant Dutch East Indies, today Indonesia.

Japan had a choice to roll back its militaristic expansion or go to war with the most powerful economy on earth

They chose wrong

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

 

[rightwinger]

You specifically mention Russian oil fields. It is a key component of your thesis. Without that element, your thesis is just misinformed blather. You are pretending to know about things you know nothing about. You are using a non-existent scenario about oil fields that did not exist to claim a manipulation of FDR by Stalin. This indicates you lack accurate historical knowledge and are less than credible on historical issues.

Here is another great column that should have Statists choking on their breakfast.

FDR KNEW...DID NOTHING...SCAPEGOATED COMMANDERS...TO GET HIS WAR...

HE WAS A TRAITOR AND DESERVED TO BE EXECUTED.

Why Did Japan Choose a Suicidal War in 1941?
By Eric Margolis

December 10, 2016

It seems clear by now that President Franklin Roosevelt’s White House knew from deciphered codes that Japan was planning an attack on America’s key naval base in Hawaii. Shamefully, the senior US Navy and Army commanders at Pearl Harbor were not informed of the impending attack. The US Navy’s three aircraft carriers were coincidentally moved far from harm’s way before the attack, leaving only obsolescent World War I battleships in port as sitting ducks.

Roosevelt was eager to get the United States into war against Germany at all costs. But Americans wanted no part of Europe’s war, recalling how British propaganda had deceived America into World War I. The single largest ethnic group in America was of German origin. In the 1880’s, my native New York City was the third most populous German city on earth after Berlin and Hamburg.

Roosevelt, whose sympathies lay far to the left in spite of his patrician background, understood that only a surprise attack would provoke Americans into war.

At the time, the US supplied 80% of Japan’s oil, 100% of its aviation fuel, and much of its metal. Roosevelt demanded Japan vacate China that it had invaded, or face an embargo of these vital strategic materials on which Japan’s industry depended. Japan’s fascist military government refused, as Washington knew it would. A US embargo ensued.

Japan had a one-year strategic reserve of oil. Its stark choice was either run out of oil, fuel, and scrap steel over 12 months or go to war while it still had these resources. The only other potential source of oil for Japan was the distant Dutch East Indies, today Indonesia.

Japan had a choice to roll back its militaristic expansion or go to war with the most powerful economy on earth

They chose wrong

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

Japan invading China and massacring a hundred thousand innocent civilians made them a threat

Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia

 

[gipper]

Here is another great column that should have Statists choking on their breakfast.

FDR KNEW...DID NOTHING...SCAPEGOATED COMMANDERS...TO GET HIS WAR...

HE WAS A TRAITOR AND DESERVED TO BE EXECUTED.

Why Did Japan Choose a Suicidal War in 1941?
By Eric Margolis

December 10, 2016

It seems clear by now that President Franklin Roosevelt’s White House knew from deciphered codes that Japan was planning an attack on America’s key naval base in Hawaii. Shamefully, the senior US Navy and Army commanders at Pearl Harbor were not informed of the impending attack. The US Navy’s three aircraft carriers were coincidentally moved far from harm’s way before the attack, leaving only obsolescent World War I battleships in port as sitting ducks.

Roosevelt was eager to get the United States into war against Germany at all costs. But Americans wanted no part of Europe’s war, recalling how British propaganda had deceived America into World War I. The single largest ethnic group in America was of German origin. In the 1880’s, my native New York City was the third most populous German city on earth after Berlin and Hamburg.

Roosevelt, whose sympathies lay far to the left in spite of his patrician background, understood that only a surprise attack would provoke Americans into war.

At the time, the US supplied 80% of Japan’s oil, 100% of its aviation fuel, and much of its metal. Roosevelt demanded Japan vacate China that it had invaded, or face an embargo of these vital strategic materials on which Japan’s industry depended. Japan’s fascist military government refused, as Washington knew it would. A US embargo ensued.

Japan had a one-year strategic reserve of oil. Its stark choice was either run out of oil, fuel, and scrap steel over 12 months or go to war while it still had these resources. The only other potential source of oil for Japan was the distant Dutch East Indies, today Indonesia.

Japan had a choice to roll back its militaristic expansion or go to war with the most powerful economy on earth

They chose wrong

I am not defending Japan's actions...dumb ass.

You have condemned Dipshit W for his war, while commending FDR for his. Yet there is little difference except that FDR caused the deaths of far more people, leading to decades of suffering and Cold War.

HYPOCRITE!!!!

Iraq was not a threat...Japan was

You lose

idiot...FDR MADE Japan a threat.

If only statists could learn....oh what wonderful peaceful world it would be.....peace is something they hate.

Japan invading China and massacring a hundred thousand innocent civilians made them a threat

Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia

So that justified FDR treasonous actions causing thousands of American deaths....only a dumbf**k statist would think that....but of course Bush was wrong and deserving of imprisonment, but FDR is my beloved GOD....can't fix stupid.