FEMA Deceives Nation About Twin Towers Core

[Christophera]

How does it feel to be a libelous nutcase? Those are excellent sources of real information. Read them or stay stupid. Your choice.

A lie cannot be proven to be anything but a lie, by reference to the lie.

They are misinformation and the image of the WTC 1 concrete core wall base proves it..

That image is confirmed by the concrete seen left and behind the flag.

The "big lie" will not work here. You have no evidence to oppose massive evidence. "Your" information/reference is in question. It is not evidence.

It cannot support the secret, it fails, .......... get it.

just WHERE do you see a concrete wall there?

The fact your refuse to use evidence has been apparent, just as the fact you have no evidence. Now you are refusing to read.

It is very logical that the perpetrators would not want any information useful for gaining more truth to be understood, therefore an agent would certainly be directed to not acknowlede any such information and work to dismiss it all all cost.

Even common sense credibility must be sacrificed. The useful information must be opposed at all costs. All such behavior is consistent with what those working to protect the secret means of mass murder would apply. Information which is useful for gaining more truth is the most important iinformation to oppose and suppress and as soon as it arrives the opposition must be continous and make the appearance by group agreement between agents to make the opposition to appear reasonable when it is not.

btw, this flag image has already been shown as verification to the core wall at its base image and explained in this thread,

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1458715-post262.html

and you posted a much worse image with a claim it was better.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1454482-post212.html

The viewer will immediately know that the above of this post is true if that happens again.

 

[Christophera]

How well did you read? Not well enough. The construction of the towers was actually a great deal stronger than the truth movement thinks. That is why Frank DeMartino engineer for the port authority said "The Twins could take multiple plane hits", he then compared a plane to a pencil poking a hole in a window screen to illustrate how little the plane compromises the shear strength of the concrete walls.

Notice the tower hit hardest stood for a long time after being hit.

THIS thread is not about how they came down, but that fact supports that they were stronger. The structure that the truth movement thinks existed did not. They take their information straight from FEMA without any reason other than "everybody does(?)" or some such nonsense.

Mr. Martino died on 9-11.

The Towers to resist torsion and sway had to be extremely ridgid. While they stood they took 110 mph winds 3 times. They were designed for 120. The core was like a vertical piece of steel reinforced concrete pipe but rectangular. The structure supporting the floors around it was steel.

Steel has greater compresive strength but it flexes. The concrete kept the steel straight where it could take the greatest loads.

The canadian keeps asserting that there are official plans available. It is not true. You will not find any. This infiltration of the US govenment depends on the division of the people. Divide and conquer. You people here don't know what is going on over there and vice versa.

The truth movement gets their plans from silverstein who made $6 billion on the tragedy. Those plans are scans of blueprints and the scans were altered by the addition of revision tables to make them look as final drawings.

I knew they were faked so examined them very closely and found that a bout 20% of the drawings have a strange digital artifact in one or more of the cells of the graphic table. Here is a screen shot.

The author of that site refuses to communicate. They all do basically.

Uhhh....okay.

So the towers were strong enough to sustain the attacks of planes?

Not really. Not apparently.

You really need to come on out and say in two sentences what your thesis is because nobody can follow what you're trying to say.

In fact, you seem to be going out of your way to "not" state what you think.

Its tiresome.

Try reading the thread title. Or try quoting the question you asked. Your post, and my post will make a lot better sense, but you will also show that you have no clue of structural issues, or, .......... you are simply pretending to be confused still. Obfusucation is tiresome as you suggest to the people you think are so stupid, but the perps would logically direct all of you keeping to keep the means of mass murder secret to make a tiresome thread IF you have no evidence.

 

[eots]

Lt. Commander Rolf Hustad, Royal Norwegian Navy – Former weapons specialist and artillery officer. 12-year military career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The statistical chance of the only 3 steel framed buildings ever to collapse [due to fire], owned by the same person, with a special clause for terrorist act, occurring in the same day, is just too remote for anyone to grasp!

He [Larry Silverstein] even admits to "pulling the building" in a TV interview!" AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 750 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
truth.org/joinus.php

 

[Christophera]

You have no evidence but think that evidence is cuckoo? You provide no reasoning.

Do you support the US Constitution or would you rather see the rights and freedoms of Americans disappear?

I'd rather your rights and freedoms be forfeited. You are judged unworthy.

A clearer statement of intent to damage the Consitution might be asked for, but could hardly be expected to be provided.

 

[Christophera]

Lt. Commander Rolf Hustad, Royal Norwegian Navy – Former weapons specialist and artillery officer. 12-year military career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The statistical chance of the only 3 steel framed buildings ever to collapse [due to fire], owned by the same person, with a special clause for terrorist act, occurring in the same day, is just too remote for anyone to grasp!

He [Larry Silverstein] even admits to "pulling the building" in a TV interview!" AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 750 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
truth.org/joinus.php

And it all leads back to FEMA and is absolutely bereft of independent verification while no one can post an image of steel core columns in the core area.

Images of concrete surrounding the core are common, always the core area is empty.

The spire in the back ground is to the right of the end view of the WTC 1 west core end concrete shear wall. The core area left of the concrete wall is completely empty.

 

[KittenKoder]

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[Christophera]

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Typically, if evidence, reason and a history of behavioral patterns is used to expose the agents, they, in order to continue protecting the secret, logically must post offensive ad hominum and ridicule because there is nothing left to do.

This, will logically be seen in prominency with proportions, persisting directly proportional and opposite by distraction or dimnishment to the amount of use the opposed information has to gain more truth.

Meaning the concrete core information exposing the FEMA deception is the most important to oppose because it is the only useful information threatening the secret means of mass murder used on 9-11.

 

[Albury Smith]

YouTube - "Weird Al" Yankovic - Stupid Haircut

Typically, if evidence, reason and a history of behavioral patterns is used to expose the agents, they, in order to continue protecting the secret, logically must post offensive ad hominum and ridicule because there is nothing left to do.

This, will logically be seen in prominency with proportions, persisting directly proportional and opposite by distraction or dimnishment to the amount of use the opposed information has to gain more truth.

Meaning the concrete core information exposing the FEMA deception is the most important to oppose because it is the only useful information threatening the secret means of mass murder used on 9-11.

Then why can't you find even one construction photo supporting your "theory"?

 

[Albury Smith]

Lt. Commander Rolf Hustad, Royal Norwegian Navy – Former weapons specialist and artillery officer. 12-year military career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The statistical chance of the only 3 steel framed buildings ever to collapse [due to fire], owned by the same person, with a special clause for terrorist act, occurring in the same day, is just too remote for anyone to grasp!

He [Larry Silverstein] even admits to "pulling the building" in a TV interview!" AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 750 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
truth.org/joinus.php

Do you "truthers" ever stop lying? Larry Silverstein said that THEY, meaning the FDNY, made the decision to pull the firefighting effort, because they had suffered such a "terrible loss of life" in the tower collapses, and WTC 7 was unstable, not to mention the fact that an underground main was severed in the North Tower collapse, and they had no water pressure. If you think he admitted to blowing up his property, then why did all eleven of his insurers pay him a total of nearly $5 billion, all of which went to his creditors and to rebuild, while his income from the WTC has been zero for the last eight years? If he publicly admitted to insurance fraud, why didn't these insurance companies, many of which were foreign, just refuse to pay him and bring charges?
Btw, there is no "possible use of explosives" in the WTC collapses. The entire premise is absurd, and anyone can be an "engineer" on Gage's web site. The man's a career liar and a nutjob:
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/Gagebox.jpg/Gagebox-full;init:.jpg

 

[DiveCon]

Lt. Commander Rolf Hustad, Royal Norwegian Navy – Former weapons specialist and artillery officer. 12-year military career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The statistical chance of the only 3 steel framed buildings ever to collapse [due to fire], owned by the same person, with a special clause for terrorist act, occurring in the same day, is just too remote for anyone to grasp!

He [Larry Silverstein] even admits to "pulling the building" in a TV interview!" AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 750 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
truth.org/joinus.php

Do you "truthers" ever stop lying? Larry Silverstein said that THEY, meaning the FDNY, made the decision to pull the firefighting effort, because they had suffered such a "terrible loss of life" in the tower collapses, and WTC 7 was unstable, not to mention the fact that an underground main was severed in the North Tower collapse, and they had no water pressure. If you think he admitted to blowing up his property, then why did all eleven of his insurers pay him a total of nearly $5 billion, all of which went to his creditors and to rebuild, while his income from the WTC has been zero for the last eight years? If he publicly admitted to insurance fraud, why didn't these insurance companies, many of which were foreign, just refuse to pay him and bring charges?
Btw, there is no "possible use of explosives" in the WTC collapses. The entire premise is absurd, and anyone can be an "engineer" on Gage's web site. The man's a career liar and a nutjob:
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/Gagebox.jpg/Gagebox-full;init:.jpg

isnt is amazing how people that want to call themselves "truthers" lie so much
thats why i call em troofers, cause they aint interested in the truth at all

 

[Christophera]

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Typically, if evidence, reason and a history of behavioral patterns is used to expose the agents, they, in order to continue protecting the secret, logically must post offensive ad hominum and ridicule because there is nothing left to do.

This, will logically be seen in prominency with proportions, persisting directly proportional and opposite by distraction or dimnishment to the amount of use the opposed information has to gain more truth.

Meaning the concrete core information exposing the FEMA deception is the most important to oppose because it is the only useful information threatening the secret means of mass murder used on 9-11.

Then why can't you find even one construction photo supporting your "theory"?

What you have quoted is not a theory that can be photographed. It is a behavior exhibited. The particular behavior is supporting the means of secret mass murder with no reasoning or evidence of substance. Accordingly you have just provided the evidence of the behavior.

​

In that case thanks for not reading and the evidence.

 

[Albury Smith]

Lt. Commander Rolf Hustad, Royal Norwegian Navy – Former weapons specialist and artillery officer. 12-year military career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The statistical chance of the only 3 steel framed buildings ever to collapse [due to fire], owned by the same person, with a special clause for terrorist act, occurring in the same day, is just too remote for anyone to grasp!

He [Larry Silverstein] even admits to "pulling the building" in a TV interview!" AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 750 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
truth.org/joinus.php

Do you "truthers" ever stop lying? Larry Silverstein said that THEY, meaning the FDNY, made the decision to pull the firefighting effort, because they had suffered such a "terrible loss of life" in the tower collapses, and WTC 7 was unstable, not to mention the fact that an underground main was severed in the North Tower collapse, and they had no water pressure. If you think he admitted to blowing up his property, then why did all eleven of his insurers pay him a total of nearly $5 billion, all of which went to his creditors and to rebuild, while his income from the WTC has been zero for the last eight years? If he publicly admitted to insurance fraud, why didn't these insurance companies, many of which were foreign, just refuse to pay him and bring charges?
Btw, there is no "possible use of explosives" in the WTC collapses. The entire premise is absurd, and anyone can be an "engineer" on Gage's web site. The man's a career liar and a nutjob:
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/Gagebox.jpg/Gagebox-full;init:.jpg

isnt is amazing how people that want to call themselves "truthers" lie so much
thats why i call em troofers, cause they aint interested in the truth at all

Amen to that. I've never gotten an answer to my question about why LS's insurers all paid him if he confessed to blowing up his property. I signed on to the Loose Change "forum" last year and asked a truther nut that question, after he lied about what Silverstein said. The board moderator declared my question not "sincere enough," and permanently banned me from posting. Some interest in the truth, huh?

 

[Toro]

Earlier in this thread, Christophera claimed the Silverstein made $6 billion, which he then refuted when showed it wasn't true. But this is a common belief running throughout the conspiracist movement.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...s-and-infiltration-of-us-gov.html#post1458752

 

[Albury Smith]

Typically, if evidence, reason and a history of behavioral patterns is used to expose the agents, they, in order to continue protecting the secret, logically must post offensive ad hominum and ridicule because there is nothing left to do.

This, will logically be seen in prominency with proportions, persisting directly proportional and opposite by distraction or dimnishment to the amount of use the opposed information has to gain more truth.

Meaning the concrete core information exposing the FEMA deception is the most important to oppose because it is the only useful information threatening the secret means of mass murder used on 9-11.

Then why can't you find even one construction photo supporting your "theory"?

What you have quoted is not a theory that can be photographed. It is a behavior exhibited. The particular behavior is supporting the means of secret mass murder with no reasoning or evidence of substance. Accordingly you have just provided the evidence of the behavior.

​

In that case thanks for not reading and the evidence.

Cut the crap and post evidence, Christophera. There's no such thing as "invisicrete."

 

[eots]

who talks like that ? we made the decision to pull the building and the watched it collapse...instead of we made the decision to pull firefighters from the building then watched it collapse and furthermore the firemen had all left the building hours before

 

[Albury Smith]

who talks like that ? we made the decision to pull the building and the watched it collapse...instead of we made the decision to pull firefighters from the building then watched it collapse and furthermore the firemen had all left the building hours before

Who says something as nonsensical as "We've had such a terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is [blow up my billion-dollar building so I can rip off all of my insurance companies]," genius? And where's your explanation for the FACT that they all paid him, and that the total was nearly $5 billion? Were they just feeling generous?

 

[Christophera]

Then why can't you find even one construction photo supporting your "theory"?

What you have quoted is not a theory that can be photographed. It is a behavior exhibited. The particular behavior is supporting the means of secret mass murder with no reasoning or evidence of substance. Accordingly you have just provided the evidence of the behavior.

​

In that case thanks for not reading and the evidence.

Cut the crap and post evidence, Christophera. There's no such thing as "invisicrete."

The evidence for a concrete core has been posted, integrated into a web site and been the subject of a video.

Twin Tower Deception and Demolition I

Twin Tower Deception and Demolition II

And you have had access to all that evidence while NEVER producing any independently verified evidence of the supposed steel core columns FEMA said existed in the core area. So, very clearly you do not use evidence.

Invisisteel exists in your mind. The one that works to support secret means of mass murder.

The core of the twins was a steel reinforced cast concrete tube, as seen here with the core of WTC 2 on 9-11.

and as the chief engineer of the Twin Towers identified for an article in Newsweek magazine on September 13, 2001.

 

[Albury Smith]

Typically, if evidence, reason and a history of behavioral patterns is used to expose the agents, they, in order to continue protecting the secret, logically must post offensive ad hominum and ridicule because there is nothing left to do.

This, will logically be seen in prominency with proportions, persisting directly proportional and opposite by distraction or dimnishment to the amount of use the opposed information has to gain more truth.

Meaning the concrete core information exposing the FEMA deception is the most important to oppose because it is the only useful information threatening the secret means of mass murder used on 9-11.

Then why can't you find even one construction photo supporting your "theory"?

What you have quoted is not a theory that can be photographed. It is a behavior exhibited. The particular behavior is supporting the means of secret mass murder with no reasoning or evidence of substance. Accordingly you have just provided the evidence of the behavior.

​

In that case thanks for not reading and the evidence.

I get it now. The core walls really were made of invisicrete.

 

[Christophera]

Then why can't you find even one construction photo supporting your "theory"?

What you have quoted is not a theory that can be photographed. It is a behavior exhibited. The particular behavior is supporting the means of secret mass murder with no reasoning or evidence of substance. Accordingly you have just provided the evidence of the behavior.

​

In that case thanks for not reading and the evidence.

I get it now. The core walls really were made of invisicrete.

This image shows a piece of the WTC 2 concrete core, from near the top falling onto WTC 3.

Your support for the secret means mass murder is evidenced by your lack of evidence to support FEMA which was not created under the US Constitution.

FEMA - The Secret Government

You are supporting that an unconstitutional entity rule over Constitutional due process in a case of 3,000 murders and you attempt this with no evidence because there is no information for what you assert that has not been deeply questioned with substance posted here.

 

[DiveCon]

What you have quoted is not a theory that can be photographed. It is a behavior exhibited. The particular behavior is supporting the means of secret mass murder with no reasoning or evidence of substance. Accordingly you have just provided the evidence of the behavior.

​

In that case thanks for not reading and the evidence.

I get it now. The core walls really were made of invisicrete.

This image shows a piece of the WTC 2 concrete core, from near the top falling onto WTC 3.

Your support for the secret means mass murder is evidenced by your lack of evidence to support FEMA which was not created under the US Constitution.

FEMA - The Secret Government

You are supporting that an unconstitutional entity rule over Constitutional due process in a case of 3,000 murders and you attempt this with no evidence because there is no information for what you assert that has not been deeply questioned with substance posted here.

that looks like a section of a floor
LOL
you FAIL once again