Ferguson : They Lied

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Wow...A lawyer dumber than Yurt

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury

St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch says he knew some of the witnesses who said they saw Michael Brown get shot were lying, but he let them testify to the grand jury anyway.

Isn't that an ethic violation?

It almost sounds like he played prosecution and defense. Having people testify, who were knowingly lying, so he could then...counter his job a state prosecutor? What the ever living fuck? So he also knew witness 40 was lying and had her testify anyway? Except in that instance, the lying worked to the defense of former Officer Wilson. Odd that he didn't feel her testimony was worth debunking.

That was not/is not his job as a prosecutor. He had no duty to hold a chat room where everyone gets to chime in. The prosecutor controls every aspect of what a GJ will hear or see....as a prosecutor. Thus the old law school 101 adage, "A prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich, if they want." His job, as prosecutor, in front of a grand jury, was to show reasons to indict for a jury trial. His job was not to play both prosecutor and defense. His job was to secure an indictment as a prosecutor. If there wasn't enough evidence or reasonable suspicion to support an indictment, the GJ decides there's insufficient cause to proceed to a jury trial. Again, it is not his job to introduce or offer evidence against indicting. Which is what he and his team did.

It's not his job to present reasonable doubt. It's not his job to counter himself. It's not his job to present both sides of the story. It is his job to try an secure an indictment from a GJ.

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury - BuzzFeed News
 
This stinks. McCulloh 'inadvertanly ommitted' evidence that would have hurt Wilson, and allowed people he assumed were lying to parrot the police narrative.


And he was the PROSECUTOR.
 
Doesn't matter.

The split-second that Asshole Brown reached-in through the squad-car window to try to take the cop's gun, he signed his death warrant.

Everything else is mere detail.

Besides, it's yesterday's news.

It's already fading from the collective American Psyche.
 
Wow...A lawyer dumber than Yurt

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury

St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch says he knew some of the witnesses who said they saw Michael Brown get shot were lying, but he let them testify to the grand jury anyway.

Isn't that an ethic violation?

It almost sounds like he played prosecution and defense. Having people testify, who were knowingly lying, so he could then...counter his job a state prosecutor? What the ever living fuck? So he also knew witness 40 was lying and had her testify anyway? Except in that instance, the lying worked to the defense of former Officer Wilson. Odd that he didn't feel her testimony was worth debunking.

That was not/is not his job as a prosecutor. He had no duty to hold a chat room where everyone gets to chime in. The prosecutor controls every aspect of what a GJ will hear or see....as a prosecutor. Thus the old law school 101 adage, "A prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich, if they want." His job, as prosecutor, in front of a grand jury, was to show reasons to indict for a jury trial. His job was not to play both prosecutor and defense. His job was to secure an indictment as a prosecutor. If there wasn't enough evidence or reasonable suspicion to support an indictment, the GJ decides there's insufficient cause to proceed to a jury trial. Again, it is not his job to introduce or offer evidence against indicting. Which is what he and his team did.

It's not his job to present reasonable doubt. It's not his job to counter himself. It's not his job to present both sides of the story. It is his job to try an secure an indictment from a GJ.

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury - BuzzFeed News
He was taking about the ones who were lying by saying Brown was on his knees with his hands in the air. Those liars later fessed up that they didn't know, and some said they weren't even there.
 
This stinks. McCulloh 'inadvertanly ommitted' evidence that would have hurt Wilson, and allowed people he assumed were lying to parrot the police narrative.


And he was the PROSECUTOR.
No it was evidence that would help Wilson. Doesn't matter. The real evidence (forensics) was consistent with Wilson's story, not the others. There was no doubt it was self-defense. Shouldn't have even gone to a GJ.
 
Doesn't matter.

The split-second that Asshole Brown reached-in through the squad-car window to try to take the cop's gun, he signed his death warrant.

Everything else is mere detail.

Besides, it's yesterday's news.

It's already fading from the collective American Psyche.

Indeed- For every action there is a reaction.

Go for a cops gun and you're ushered in the dirtnap realm

-Geaux
 
Wow...A lawyer dumber than Yurt

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury

St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch says he knew some of the witnesses who said they saw Michael Brown get shot were lying, but he let them testify to the grand jury anyway.

Isn't that an ethic violation?

It almost sounds like he played prosecution and defense. Having people testify, who were knowingly lying, so he could then...counter his job a state prosecutor? What the ever living fuck? So he also knew witness 40 was lying and had her testify anyway? Except in that instance, the lying worked to the defense of former Officer Wilson. Odd that he didn't feel her testimony was worth debunking.

That was not/is not his job as a prosecutor. He had no duty to hold a chat room where everyone gets to chime in. The prosecutor controls every aspect of what a GJ will hear or see....as a prosecutor. Thus the old law school 101 adage, "A prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich, if they want." His job, as prosecutor, in front of a grand jury, was to show reasons to indict for a jury trial. His job was not to play both prosecutor and defense. His job was to secure an indictment as a prosecutor. If there wasn't enough evidence or reasonable suspicion to support an indictment, the GJ decides there's insufficient cause to proceed to a jury trial. Again, it is not his job to introduce or offer evidence against indicting. Which is what he and his team did.

It's not his job to present reasonable doubt. It's not his job to counter himself. It's not his job to present both sides of the story. It is his job to try an secure an indictment from a GJ.

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury - BuzzFeed News
He was taking about the ones who were lying by saying Brown was on his knees with his hands in the air. Those liars later fessed up that they didn't know, and some said they weren't even there.
The woman witness for the prosecution admitted she wasn't there. She's admitted to being arrested and for prior perjury. She said she saw Brown charge toward Wilson.
 
The prosecutor put out all the witnesses for the Grand Jury to hear....so all the evidence would be heard....and people are complaining...imagine what these silly people would say if he didn't put those people on the stand....their lies would be unknown and the meme would be he kept witnesses off the stand who said the officer just killed Brown....
 
Old news. One discredited witness does not convict Wilson. There were plenty of lying witnesses against Wilson.

The physical evidence proved Wilson's story, all testimony is pretty much irrelevant. The limp-wristers just can't let it go.
 
Wow...A lawyer dumber than Yurt

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury

St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch says he knew some of the witnesses who said they saw Michael Brown get shot were lying, but he let them testify to the grand jury anyway.

Isn't that an ethic violation?

It almost sounds like he played prosecution and defense. Having people testify, who were knowingly lying, so he could then...counter his job a state prosecutor? What the ever living fuck? So he also knew witness 40 was lying and had her testify anyway? Except in that instance, the lying worked to the defense of former Officer Wilson. Odd that he didn't feel her testimony was worth debunking.

That was not/is not his job as a prosecutor. He had no duty to hold a chat room where everyone gets to chime in. The prosecutor controls every aspect of what a GJ will hear or see....as a prosecutor. Thus the old law school 101 adage, "A prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich, if they want." His job, as prosecutor, in front of a grand jury, was to show reasons to indict for a jury trial. His job was not to play both prosecutor and defense. His job was to secure an indictment as a prosecutor. If there wasn't enough evidence or reasonable suspicion to support an indictment, the GJ decides there's insufficient cause to proceed to a jury trial. Again, it is not his job to introduce or offer evidence against indicting. Which is what he and his team did.

It's not his job to present reasonable doubt. It's not his job to counter himself. It's not his job to present both sides of the story. It is his job to try an secure an indictment from a GJ.

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury - BuzzFeed News
He was taking about the ones who were lying by saying Brown was on his knees with his hands in the air. Those liars later fessed up that they didn't know, and some said they weren't even there.
The woman witness for the prosecution admitted she wasn't there. She's admitted to being arrested and for prior perjury. She said she saw Brown charge toward Wilson.
Oh, well.

Scratch one witness.

None of this substantively weakens the case against Wilson, however.

If dumbass Brown had not tried taking Wilson's gun earlier, and had he obeyed commands to surrender, he would not now be worm-meat.

Nature has de-selected him.

Besides... this is yesterday's news... time to move on.

Most of America already has.

This is already (and quickly) fading from the Public Consciousness.
 
There were quite a few witnesses who lied and were discredited by evidence.
Some said the gentle giant has his hands in the air or was on his knees when he was shot.
Turns out these witnesses finally admitted they heard someone say that and they didn't see it.
 
There were a lot more lying against Officer Wilson, than this one who lied on his behalf & was discredited by lawyer in front of Grand Jury as she testified. The jury knew she lied, so her testimony had no bearing on the outcome.
 
I think the witnesses whose testimony was supported by not one not two but three autopsies
made the decision the right one by the grand jury.
 
I think the witnesses whose testimony was supported by not one not two but three autopsies
made the decision the right one by the grand jury.

Exactly, but fire starters like the op simply don't care about the evidence. We're trying to get a 5 year old to understand what evidence is and to think critically without throwing shit around the room. This country is in trouble as many are like the op and simply can't think their way out of a wet paper bag.
 
Wow...A lawyer dumber than Yurt

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury

St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch says he knew some of the witnesses who said they saw Michael Brown get shot were lying, but he let them testify to the grand jury anyway.

Isn't that an ethic violation?

It almost sounds like he played prosecution and defense. Having people testify, who were knowingly lying, so he could then...counter his job a state prosecutor? What the ever living fuck? So he also knew witness 40 was lying and had her testify anyway? Except in that instance, the lying worked to the defense of former Officer Wilson. Odd that he didn't feel her testimony was worth debunking.

That was not/is not his job as a prosecutor. He had no duty to hold a chat room where everyone gets to chime in. The prosecutor controls every aspect of what a GJ will hear or see....as a prosecutor. Thus the old law school 101 adage, "A prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich, if they want." His job, as prosecutor, in front of a grand jury, was to show reasons to indict for a jury trial. His job was not to play both prosecutor and defense. His job was to secure an indictment as a prosecutor. If there wasn't enough evidence or reasonable suspicion to support an indictment, the GJ decides there's insufficient cause to proceed to a jury trial. Again, it is not his job to introduce or offer evidence against indicting. Which is what he and his team did.

It's not his job to present reasonable doubt. It's not his job to counter himself. It's not his job to present both sides of the story. It is his job to try an secure an indictment from a GJ.

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury - BuzzFeed News

He didn't have any reasonable evidence of a crime to bring to the GJ to begin with. So since he was forced to do this for political reasons, he went ahead and continued the mockery of justice that society demanded.
 
I think the witnesses whose testimony was supported by not one not two but three autopsies
made the decision the right one by the grand jury.

Exactly, but fire starters like the op simply don't care about the evidence. We're trying to get a 5 year old to understand what evidence is and to think critically without throwing shit around the room. This country is in trouble as many are like the op and simply can't think their way out of a wet paper bag.

The left wanted the cop to get the death penalty...anything less then that would not have made them happy...
They wanted him charged,tried and found guilty.

If this went to trial and the cop was aquitted they would have been more violent in their response....
The only outcome the left wanted would be a long prison sentence handed down and the officer gettting killed in prison,
that would have been acceptable.
 
Mike Brown's step father Louis Head who incited the riots that looted & burned Ferguson businesses, forced Dorian Johnson & his friends to lie to the media & Jury or die. He murdered & burned DeAndre Joshua in his car just yards away from where Mike Brown died for telling this to the FBI & refusing to give false testimony to the jury.
 
St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch did an excellent job on this Mike Brown case. He was re-elected by 96% of the voters after this case was reviewed by the Grand Jury. 24% of St. Louis County & their voters are Black. Blacks supported St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch's decision.
 
Wow...A lawyer dumber than Yurt

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury

St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch says he knew some of the witnesses who said they saw Michael Brown get shot were lying, but he let them testify to the grand jury anyway.

Isn't that an ethic violation?

It almost sounds like he played prosecution and defense. Having people testify, who were knowingly lying, so he could then...counter his job a state prosecutor? What the ever living fuck? So he also knew witness 40 was lying and had her testify anyway? Except in that instance, the lying worked to the defense of former Officer Wilson. Odd that he didn't feel her testimony was worth debunking.

That was not/is not his job as a prosecutor. He had no duty to hold a chat room where everyone gets to chime in. The prosecutor controls every aspect of what a GJ will hear or see....as a prosecutor. Thus the old law school 101 adage, "A prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich, if they want." His job, as prosecutor, in front of a grand jury, was to show reasons to indict for a jury trial. His job was not to play both prosecutor and defense. His job was to secure an indictment as a prosecutor. If there wasn't enough evidence or reasonable suspicion to support an indictment, the GJ decides there's insufficient cause to proceed to a jury trial. Again, it is not his job to introduce or offer evidence against indicting. Which is what he and his team did.

It's not his job to present reasonable doubt. It's not his job to counter himself. It's not his job to present both sides of the story. It is his job to try an secure an indictment from a GJ.

Prosecutor Says He Knew Some Witnesses Were Lying To The Ferguson Grand Jury - BuzzFeed News

Had he not have done it then there would still have been bitchen'. Really.

You had normally reasonable people on the board that refused to take into account the problems with eyewitness testimony. Even when the same eyewitness would back track through interviews.

There is not a doubt in my mind that the thread would be something about refused to allow the individual to testify and how he was playing judge and jury.
 

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