Florida Gov. DeSantis Has Just Signed A Bill Into Law That Would Allow Everyday Floridians To Sue Big Tech Platforms For Monetary Damages

Then you have an issue with the moderation.
I guess the question is whether or not one has legal relief.

The American left opposes discrimination unless it's based on political beliefs and then they wholeheartedly SUPPORT banning everyone to a virtual, internet, gulag. Of course, political leftists have ALWAYS supported the use of concentration camps and gulags for their political opponents.
 
Nazi liberals are going to hate this

This is a joke.. DeSantis is playing for a headline.
Nope. He just stuck a dagger into the belly of the big tech monster.

You ready to sue US Message Board if they kick you off?
More importantly I wonder how many of them are willing to have their real identities become part of the public domain in a lawsuit of this nature where there is no guarantee that they will prevail
 

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When you signed on to this forum, you agreed to abide by the rules of the forum.

If you are held accountable for breaking the rules, there is nothing you can sue over.

From your linked article:
"The law requires companies to detail how they reach conclusions about content moderation and stick to those standards consistently, DeSantis said during a press conference on Monday."

As long as the moderators follow the rules and stick to the standards, you have no complaint. This is not a free speech issue. The 1st amendment is there to prevent the gov't from silencing you. It does not apply to private property. It also does not apply when you have agreed to follow the rules set forth by the forums.
Time and litigation will tell. In the meantime, the forums are in the hot seat. At $100K per lawsuit, I would tread lightly if I were them.

If you agree to abide by the set rules, and then break the rules, there is nothing to litigate.

Is that like, "You agree to ALL of Googles terms" and "ALL of Microsofts terms" and all of AT&T's terms" to use their products and services?
You either agree or you can't use their essential services. Some choice huh?
 

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When you signed on to this forum, you agreed to abide by the rules of the forum.

If you are held accountable for breaking the rules, there is nothing you can sue over.

From your linked article:
"The law requires companies to detail how they reach conclusions about content moderation and stick to those standards consistently, DeSantis said during a press conference on Monday."

As long as the moderators follow the rules and stick to the standards, you have no complaint. This is not a free speech issue. The 1st amendment is there to prevent the gov't from silencing you. It does not apply to private property. It also does not apply when you have agreed to follow the rules set forth by the forums.
Time and litigation will tell. In the meantime, the forums are in the hot seat. At $100K per lawsuit, I would tread lightly if I were them.

If you agree to abide by the set rules, and then break the rules, there is nothing to litigate.

Is that like, "You agree to ALL of Googles terms" and "ALL of Microsofts terms" and all of AT&T's terms" to use their products and services?
You either agree or you can't use their essential services. Some choice huh?

Except not being able to use this forum is a long way from being denied access to an "essential service".
 
Try reading DeSantis law.
I am a big fan of DeSantis and I like the spirit of the law, I'm just not sure of its constitutionality.

Legally speaking, why shouldn't YouTube be permitted to ban content that it dislikes?

"Legally", they should be able to.

But since their censorship has a profound effect on society at large, is it "morally" acceptable?

Is it "The right thing" to do ?
 

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When you signed on to this forum, you agreed to abide by the rules of the forum.

If you are held accountable for breaking the rules, there is nothing you can sue over.

From your linked article:
"The law requires companies to detail how they reach conclusions about content moderation and stick to those standards consistently, DeSantis said during a press conference on Monday."

As long as the moderators follow the rules and stick to the standards, you have no complaint. This is not a free speech issue. The 1st amendment is there to prevent the gov't from silencing you. It does not apply to private property. It also does not apply when you have agreed to follow the rules set forth by the forums.
Time and litigation will tell. In the meantime, the forums are in the hot seat. At $100K per lawsuit, I would tread lightly if I were them.

If you agree to abide by the set rules, and then break the rules, there is nothing to litigate.

Is that like, "You agree to ALL of Googles terms" and "ALL of Microsofts terms" and all of AT&T's terms" to use their products and services?
You either agree or you can't use their essential services. Some choice huh?

Except not being able to use this forum is a long way from being denied access to an "essential service".

Lawyer on speed dial.

Go ahead punk....MAKE MY DAY !
 
But since their censorship has a profound effect on society at large, is it "morally" acceptable?
Ultimately, the U.S. Constitution is our nation's governing document and it's not based on what is "morally acceptable". Anyone that tries to sue YouTube, etc., is going to have to demonstrate how they are in violation of law and then Florida's new law will have to withstand the scrutiny of the SCOTUS and in how it relates to the Consitution.

So what is the legal argument?
 
But since their censorship has a profound effect on society at large, is it "morally" acceptable?
Ultimately, the U.S. Constitution is our nation's governing document and it's not based on what is "morally acceptable". Anyone that tries to sue YouTube, etc., is going to have to demonstrate how they are in violation of law and then Florida's new law will have to withstand the scrutiny of the SCOTUS and in how it relates to the Consitution.

So what is the legal argument?

I think you need to re-read my post.
 

This forum is a perfect example of a PLATFORM. It does NOT censor speech, with the infrequent exception of when one calls for another to be murdered or for posting something pornographic, etc. Users here CAN and DO criticize masks, vaccines, etc.
Speech is quite free here in USMB. It should shine as an example to the other idiots out there (Political Jack, Political Hotwire, etc)
 
Then you have an issue with the moderation.
I guess the question is whether or not one has legal relief.

The American left opposes discrimination unless it's based on political beliefs and then they wholeheartedly SUPPORT banning everyone to a virtual, internet, gulag. Of course, political leftists have ALWAYS supported the use of concentration camps and gulags for their political opponents.
So you're in favor of government telling private citizens they can't say what they want?
 

And how does the law differentiate? Is there a small forum version and a big tech version?

I am not attempting to confuse the two. At least a couple of people addressed the issue as it applies to this forum.
You are a Leftist ...

Of course you are confusing the two ...

On some issues I am leftist. On some issues I am a rightwinger. Your attempt to label me changes nothing.

But do explain how this law is limited to only huge corporate entities.
 

This forum is a perfect example of a PLATFORM. It does NOT censor speech, with the infrequent exception of when one calls for another to be murdered or for posting something pornographic, etc. Users here CAN and DO criticize masks, vaccines, etc.
Speech is quite free here in USMB. It should shine as an example to the other idiots out there (Political Jack, Political Hotwire, etc)
Nope, not free. There's a graveyard of posters who've been permanently banned.
 
I doubt a lawsuit could squeeze enough out of a small forum like this to even cover the cost of the attorney. All that is behind the mod power orgy on this site is a little Wizard of Oz.
 

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When you signed on to this forum, you agreed to abide by the rules of the forum.

If you are held accountable for breaking the rules, there is nothing you can sue over.

From your linked article:
"The law requires companies to detail how they reach conclusions about content moderation and stick to those standards consistently, DeSantis said during a press conference on Monday."

As long as the moderators follow the rules and stick to the standards, you have no complaint. This is not a free speech issue. The 1st amendment is there to prevent the gov't from silencing you. It does not apply to private property. It also does not apply when you have agreed to follow the rules set forth by the forums.
Time and litigation will tell. In the meantime, the forums are in the hot seat. At $100K per lawsuit, I would tread lightly if I were them.

If you agree to abide by the set rules, and then break the rules, there is nothing to litigate.
its not so much about the rules as much as its about the selective way they enforce them,,

they created this,,
 
Try reading DeSantis law.
I am a big fan of DeSantis and I like the spirit of the law, I'm just not sure of its constitutionality.

Legally speaking, why shouldn't YouTube be permitted to ban content that it dislikes?
Monopoly ....

Compsnies can sue for damages ... lost revenue due to the big tech monopoly censorship.

Up to 100k per case.

This has NOTHING to do with piddly ass forums like this one.

It has more to do with these big tech outlets banning congressional, presidential canddidates base upon bias.
 

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