Florida Pulse gay club attacked

[Indofred]

This is an interesting thread.
It seems the murderer is an Islamic extremist, but his hate is now being used by the far right to hate all Muslims for the acts of one on this occasion, or a few thousand out of 1.6 billion who are guilty of other killings.

As for the killer, apart from being a pointless twat who's actions will only lead to more hate and stupidity, he's probably given Trump a boost in the election campaign, something that id very likely to lead to even more US attacks and murders of innocent civilians, so radicalise more Muslims who are likely to attack US targets.

Basically, this moronic pillock has killed a load of people, probably leading to the deaths of far more because of tit for tat mass killings that are likely to come from this.

The whole thing is fucking stupid.

 

[boedicca]

No big deal here. How could one would feel if 50 prisoners were killed in their prison? Something like that happened in Orlando.
However, they are people too. Maybe God will forgive them if they wanted to be forgiven.

Wow. Are you a hateful idiot.

 

[Iceweasel]

This is an interesting thread.
It seems the murderer is an Islamic extremist, but his hate is now being used by the far right to hate all Muslims for the acts of one on this occasion, or a few thousand out of 1.6 billion who are guilty of other killings.

As for the killer, apart from being a pointless twat who's actions will only lead to more hate and stupidity, he's probably given Trump a boost in the election campaign, something that id very likely to lead to even more US attacks and murders of innocent civilians, so radicalise more Muslims who are likely to attack US targets.

Basically, this moronic pillock has killed a load of people, probably leading to the deaths of far more because of tit for tat mass killings that are likely to come from this.

The whole thing is fucking stupid.

So, we've only been subjected to the whims of one Islamic extremist?

 

[Crixus]

I did, but have yet to see the Pope or Billy Graham direct their flocks to kill gay people over Christmas, or for that matter, I have yet to find a mainstream Rabbi direct good, pious Jews to do that either. See, you posted up two weirdos saying they did what they did in God's name, fine, but they were nut jobs. This guy and every Muslim doing all the killing has done so as a directive of their imams and their Koran not because they were moonbats . You are still wrong.

Thats because you lack the knowledge. The Pope for example is the one that started european imperialism in the name of god.

I didn't know that Alexander the Great was a Pope.

He wasnt. The pope was the pope.

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“We weighing all and singular the premises with due meditation, and noting that since we had formerly by other letters of ours granted among other things free and ample faculty to the aforesaid King Alfonso -- to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods, and to convert them to his and their use and profit -- by having secured the said faculty, the said King Alfonso, or, by his authority, the aforesaid infante, justly and lawfully has acquired and possessed, and doth possess, these islands, lands, harbors, and seas, and they do of right belong and pertain to the said King Alfonso and his successors”.

Alexander the Great started European imperialism.

Nope. Alexander the great died long before the dark ages of europe and the subsequent order by the pope to go forth, steal land, and enslave in the name of god.

That was an informative post. Still, in the last say, year or so can you think of any pope, paster or preacher who has directed Christians in every country to kill apostates, sinners and so on the way imams and ayatollahs and Haji's in general have? Or better yet, what priest directed the dude who shot up the abortion clinic to do so?

 

[Asclepias]

Thats because you lack the knowledge. The Pope for example is the one that started european imperialism in the name of god.

I didn't know that Alexander the Great was a Pope.

He wasnt. The pope was the pope.

Untitled Document

“We weighing all and singular the premises with due meditation, and noting that since we had formerly by other letters of ours granted among other things free and ample faculty to the aforesaid King Alfonso -- to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods, and to convert them to his and their use and profit -- by having secured the said faculty, the said King Alfonso, or, by his authority, the aforesaid infante, justly and lawfully has acquired and possessed, and doth possess, these islands, lands, harbors, and seas, and they do of right belong and pertain to the said King Alfonso and his successors”.

Alexander the Great started European imperialism.

Nope. Alexander the great died long before the dark ages of europe and the subsequent order by the pope to go forth, steal land, and enslave in the name of god.

That was an informative post. Still, in the last say, year or so can you think of any pope, paster or preacher who has directed Christians in every country to kill apostates, sinners and so on the way imams and ayatollahs and Haji's in general have? Or better yet, what priest directed the dude who shot up the abortion clinic to do so?

Moving the goal posts huh?

Pick any president that has utter the words for god and country when attacking another country.

 

[PredFan]

I did, but have yet to see the Pope or Billy Graham direct their flocks to kill gay people over Christmas, or for that matter, I have yet to find a mainstream Rabbi direct good, pious Jews to do that either. See, you posted up two weirdos saying they did what they did in God's name, fine, but they were nut jobs. This guy and every Muslim doing all the killing has done so as a directive of their imams and their Koran not because they were moonbats . You are still wrong.

Thats because you lack the knowledge. The Pope for example is the one that started european imperialism in the name of god.

I didn't know that Alexander the Great was a Pope.

He wasnt. The pope was the pope.

Untitled Document

“We weighing all and singular the premises with due meditation, and noting that since we had formerly by other letters of ours granted among other things free and ample faculty to the aforesaid King Alfonso -- to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods, and to convert them to his and their use and profit -- by having secured the said faculty, the said King Alfonso, or, by his authority, the aforesaid infante, justly and lawfully has acquired and possessed, and doth possess, these islands, lands, harbors, and seas, and they do of right belong and pertain to the said King Alfonso and his successors”.

Alexander the Great started European imperialism.

Nope. Alexander the great died long before the dark ages of europe and the subsequent order by the pope to go forth, steal land, and enslave in the name of god.

Spin away loser. You said that the Pope started European Imperialism, you are wrong. Alexander did it, the Romans did it, twice.

 

[Crixus]

I didn't know that Alexander the Great was a Pope.

He wasnt. The pope was the pope.

Untitled Document

“We weighing all and singular the premises with due meditation, and noting that since we had formerly by other letters of ours granted among other things free and ample faculty to the aforesaid King Alfonso -- to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods, and to convert them to his and their use and profit -- by having secured the said faculty, the said King Alfonso, or, by his authority, the aforesaid infante, justly and lawfully has acquired and possessed, and doth possess, these islands, lands, harbors, and seas, and they do of right belong and pertain to the said King Alfonso and his successors”.

Alexander the Great started European imperialism.

Nope. Alexander the great died long before the dark ages of europe and the subsequent order by the pope to go forth, steal land, and enslave in the name of god.

That was an informative post. Still, in the last say, year or so can you think of any pope, paster or preacher who has directed Christians in every country to kill apostates, sinners and so on the way imams and ayatollahs and Haji's in general have? Or better yet, what priest directed the dude who shot up the abortion clinic to do so?

Moving the goal posts huh?

Pick any president that has utter the words for god and country when attacking another country.

Not really. I was trying to help you out. See, Christians, however crazy they can be, and man are some nuts (Pat Robertson comes to mind) don't direct their flocks to go and kill gays, thieves, adulterers and the like. Like I said I can go through may and June an quite a few countries and find honer killings and terrorist acts committed in the name of Allah as a directive of an imam and or the Koran, but not from televangelist or preachers.

Oh,. And as far as the presidents go, likely all of them did at some point especially when it came to killing and sending our boys to die. Don't make it right though.

 

[Asclepias]

Thats because you lack the knowledge. The Pope for example is the one that started european imperialism in the name of god.

I didn't know that Alexander the Great was a Pope.

He wasnt. The pope was the pope.

Untitled Document

“We weighing all and singular the premises with due meditation, and noting that since we had formerly by other letters of ours granted among other things free and ample faculty to the aforesaid King Alfonso -- to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods, and to convert them to his and their use and profit -- by having secured the said faculty, the said King Alfonso, or, by his authority, the aforesaid infante, justly and lawfully has acquired and possessed, and doth possess, these islands, lands, harbors, and seas, and they do of right belong and pertain to the said King Alfonso and his successors”.

Alexander the Great started European imperialism.

Nope. Alexander the great died long before the dark ages of europe and the subsequent order by the pope to go forth, steal land, and enslave in the name of god.

Spin away loser. You said that the Pope started European Imperialism, you are wrong. Alexander did it, the Romans did it, twice.

The Pope did start european imperialism. Keep spinning.

 

[bornright]

About the Muslims hating homosexuals....Seems like the news reported the leader of Libya being sodomized before his murder. It was also reported that they sodomized the Ambassador before his death. It sounds to me like homosexuality is alive and well at least with the Muslim terrorist.

 

[Asclepias]

He wasnt. The pope was the pope.

Untitled Document

“We weighing all and singular the premises with due meditation, and noting that since we had formerly by other letters of ours granted among other things free and ample faculty to the aforesaid King Alfonso -- to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods, and to convert them to his and their use and profit -- by having secured the said faculty, the said King Alfonso, or, by his authority, the aforesaid infante, justly and lawfully has acquired and possessed, and doth possess, these islands, lands, harbors, and seas, and they do of right belong and pertain to the said King Alfonso and his successors”.

Alexander the Great started European imperialism.

Nope. Alexander the great died long before the dark ages of europe and the subsequent order by the pope to go forth, steal land, and enslave in the name of god.

That was an informative post. Still, in the last say, year or so can you think of any pope, paster or preacher who has directed Christians in every country to kill apostates, sinners and so on the way imams and ayatollahs and Haji's in general have? Or better yet, what priest directed the dude who shot up the abortion clinic to do so?

Moving the goal posts huh?

Pick any president that has utter the words for god and country when attacking another country.

Not really. I was trying to help you out. See, Christians, however crazy they can be, and man are some nuts (Pat Robertson comes to mind) don't direct their flocks to go and kill gays, thieves, adulterers and the like. Like I said I can go through may and June an quite a few countries and find honer killings and terrorist acts committed in the name of Allah as a directive of an imam and or the Koran, but not from televangelist or preachers.

What would help me out is proving that christians havent done the same thing muslims have done in the name of their relgion.

 

[Tilly]

This is an interesting thread.
It seems the murderer is an Islamic extremist, but his hate is now being used by the far right to hate all Muslims for the acts of one on this occasion, or a few thousand out of 1.6 billion who are guilty of other killings.

As for the killer, apart from being a pointless twat who's actions will only lead to more hate and stupidity, he's probably given Trump a boost in the election campaign, something that id very likely to lead to even more US attacks and murders of innocent civilians, so radicalise more Muslims who are likely to attack US targets.

Basically, this moronic pillock has killed a load of people, probably leading to the deaths of far more because of tit for tat mass killings that are likely to come from this.

The whole thing is fucking stupid.

Why would the election of Trump lead to more '...us attacks and murders of innocent civilians, so radicalise more Muslims who are likely to attack US targets'?
Why? What exactly has Trump done to Muslims?

 

[charwin95]

The killer carried an assault rifle and a pistol, making it as easy as shooting fish in a barrel and accumulate huge numbers of murdered victims.

Maybe one should ask - WHY does a person need an assault rifle? WHY should he have been able to get it? Same thing with the San Diego shooters - they had an arsonal and bullet proof armor. We need to look at extremist ideology yes, but we also need to look at the factors that help to create such a huge death toll.

He entered a confined space, packed with 350 people, in the dark, with loud music and strobe lights....and most of them were in some form of intoxication and some under the influence of drugs....

and they were all in a gun free zone......so your gun control laws actually worked, not one innocent gay person in that dance club had a gun.....

those are the real factors, not the rifle....

The rifle had nothing to do with the body count...he could have used a gym bag full of revlovers and gotten the same result....

there are 3,750,000 AR-15s in private hands......

one was used illegally to commit the illegal act of murder....

that means that 3,749,999 AR-15s in private hands were not used for any form of crime.....

Do you understand what those numbers mean?

Law abiding Americans use the AR-15 rifle and others like it for self defense, hunting, competition and collecting and never use them for anything else.....

your logic is that banning 3,749,999 AR-15s that were not used to commit murder would stop the one guy from committing murder with one rifle.....

While the AR-15 and actual fully automatic rifles are completely illegal in France...they have 0 AR-15s in France.......let me repeat...they have 0 AR-15s in France....and islamic terrorists on government watch lists got illegal, fully automatic rifles...AK-47s which are also completely illegal in france and murdered 140 people...and injured hundreds of others............

So how does your post make any sense at all........

Are you aware that there was an armed police officers working as security guard at the door?
Even if it's not a in free zones...... Since when you see bunch of gays carrying guns or even interested in guns.
Since gun nuts keep blaming it's a gun free zones............... Does a gun nuts like you even respect a gun free zones?
You are a dishonest if you say Yes....... because people carry their guns in their purse, back packs, waist and brief case in a gun free zones.
Two of my golf buddies carry their guns at golf course and wherever they go.......... even at church. ALL THE TIME. And they know lots of their fellow gun nuts are doing the same thing.

 

[Markle]

terrorist is dead ?

If we had a president with some intestinal fortitude, I'd have preferred he be captured alive and shipped off to GITMO for a bit of enhanced interrogation and quiet time.

 

[Igrok_]

No big deal here. How could one would feel if 50 prisoners were killed in their prison? Something like that happened in Orlando.
However, they are people too. Maybe God will forgive them if they wanted to be forgiven.

Wow. Are you a hateful idiot.

nope, i am loveful cleverman.

 

[bodecea]

The killer carried an assault rifle and a pistol, making it as easy as shooting fish in a barrel and accumulate huge numbers of murdered victims.

Maybe one should ask - WHY does a person need an assault rifle? WHY should he have been able to get it? Same thing with the San Diego shooters - they had an arsonal and bullet proof armor. We need to look at extremist ideology yes, but we also need to look at the factors that help to create such a huge death toll.

Muslims targets are alway unarmed innocents. They target nightclubs, schools, hospitals, and bus stops. Your friends do this. Ask yourself why you defend them.

I would like to know who is defending mooslim terrorists.

 

[boedicca]

No big deal here. How could one would feel if 50 prisoners were killed in their prison? Something like that happened in Orlando.
However, they are people too. Maybe God will forgive them if they wanted to be forgiven.

Wow. Are you a hateful idiot.

nope, i am loveful cleverman.

The evidence for your assertion is sorely lacking. Mine, however, was validated by your hateful post.

 

[Crixus]

Alexander the Great started European imperialism.

Nope. Alexander the great died long before the dark ages of europe and the subsequent order by the pope to go forth, steal land, and enslave in the name of god.

That was an informative post. Still, in the last say, year or so can you think of any pope, paster or preacher who has directed Christians in every country to kill apostates, sinners and so on the way imams and ayatollahs and Haji's in general have? Or better yet, what priest directed the dude who shot up the abortion clinic to do so?

Moving the goal posts huh?

Pick any president that has utter the words for god and country when attacking another country.

Not really. I was trying to help you out. See, Christians, however crazy they can be, and man are some nuts (Pat Robertson comes to mind) don't direct their flocks to go and kill gays, thieves, adulterers and the like. Like I said I can go through may and June an quite a few countries and find honer killings and terrorist acts committed in the name of Allah as a directive of an imam and or the Koran, but not from televangelist or preachers.

What would help me out is proving that christians havent done the same thing muslims have done in the name of their relgion.

It would be dishonest to say they have not but that's not the question now is it?

 

[Markle]

This is an interesting thread.
It seems the murderer is an Islamic extremist, but his hate is now being used by the far right to hate all Muslims for the acts of one on this occasion, or a few thousand out of 1.6 billion who are guilty of other killings.

As for the killer, apart from being a pointless twat who's actions will only lead to more hate and stupidity, he's probably given Trump a boost in the election campaign, something that id very likely to lead to even more US attacks and murders of innocent civilians, so radicalise more Muslims who are likely to attack US targets.

Basically, this moronic pillock has killed a load of people, probably leading to the deaths of far more because of tit for tat mass killings that are likely to come from this.

The whole thing is fucking stupid.

PLEASE show us reliable sources and links proving your hate filled statement that the far right hate all Muslims for the acts of one on this occasion.

You are LYING about there being a "few thousand" out of the 1.6 billion Muslims. There are MILLIONS who support the fatal attacks and the radical methods of the Radical Islam Terrorists.

 

[Igrok_]

No big deal here. How could one would feel if 50 prisoners were killed in their prison? Something like that happened in Orlando.
However, they are people too. Maybe God will forgive them if they wanted to be forgiven.

Wow. Are you a hateful idiot.

nope, i am loveful cleverman.

The evidence for your assertion is sorely lacking. Mine, however, was validated by your hateful post.

You wanted to say 'lovely post', did you not?

 

[bodecea]

I cannot help but wonder, if this had not been a mooslim, how long before the "black flag...false ops" claims would have been made like with Sandy Hook and Charleston.