Quantum Windbag
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Good. There is no reason at all to slaughter an animal so you can have a nice new coat.
I don't see you not wearing shoes.
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Good. There is no reason at all to slaughter an animal so you can have a nice new coat.
I'm betting that most people who are in favor of banning fur have never worn a mink coat.
Tis a fabulous feeling.
I like fashion, but I like this more.
"According to the Humane Society of the United States, the fashion industry's fur trade results in more than 50 million animal deaths per year, a figure that the city has put before its coveted title as West Coast fashion capital.
Weve consistently worked to enact cutting-edge animal welfare legislation," city spokeswoman Tamara White told ABC. "This is in line with our values.
West Hollywood, Calif. Becomes First City In The U.S. To Ban Fur Sales
How or why is this any different than 'if you don't approve of abortion, then don't have one'? If you don't approve of animals being killed for their skins, then don't buy the products, the concept is no different.
Just because food has to be real in order for it to keep a person alive doesn't mean that fur has to be real too in order for it to be made into clothing, furniture, blankets, etc. Why do animals have to be killed for their fur as well when fake fur can be made?
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P.S. If the fur has to be real, to me, it should be from an animal that is already being "used" for other things.
Do you wear leather? Eat meat? Use bio fuels? Use car or bicycle tires? Use toothpaste? Eat sugar? Use plastic bags?
9 Everyday Products You Didn't Know Had Animal Ingredients : TreeHugger
I have posted before that its impossible to be really vegan because there are slaughterhouse byproducts in damn near everything.
So?
Live the way you want. But, don't criticize me for being vegetarian, not wearing leather and for avoiding whatever animal byproducts I can.
Don't pretend that torturing animals for their fur is "fabulous". And, don't take your insecurity and defensiveness out on me. If you didn't feel guilt and shame, you wouldn't be grilling me on my diet!
Technically there is no reason to slaughter an animal so you can have dinner either. That doesn't stop me from eating cheeseburgers.
True, but there is a difference between eating meat to survive and killing an animal so you can wear it.
Like guns in Chicago, the buyer can walk across the street to buy dead animal skins and its largely symbolic, but still --- Its a step in the right direction.
West Hollywood, Calif. Becomes First City In The U.S. To Ban Fur Sales
Los Angelenos, rejoice!
Last weekend, West Hollywood officially became the first city in the country to ban the sale of wearable fur in retail stores. City council members passed the law by unanimous vote 2 years ago, and it finally went into effect on Sept. 21, 2013, ABC reports.
The ban will apply to all articles of clothing -- anything made to be worn -- but not to furniture items, blankets, or leather products.
I like fashion, but I like this more.
"According to the Humane Society of the United States, the fashion industry's fur trade results in more than 50 million animal deaths per year, a figure that the city has put before its coveted title as West Coast fashion capital.
Weve consistently worked to enact cutting-edge animal welfare legislation," city spokeswoman Tamara White told ABC. "This is in line with our values.
West Hollywood, Calif. Becomes First City In The U.S. To Ban Fur Sales
How or why is this any different than 'if you don't approve of abortion, then don't have one'? If you don't approve of animals being killed for their skins, then don't buy the products, the concept is no different.
Oh, but the small furry animals are so cuuute! Waaaa, waaaa, waaaa!
Unbelievable how much the left whines about shit and have zero problem banning something they don't approve of. Leftists are morons.
Small furry animal = oh the horror of killing this cute little guy for its fur!
Small pre-born human = inconvenience, blob of nothing cells, terminate, terminate, terminate!
Whack.
The problem with some furs is you don't know if they're ranched or trapped. Trapping is inhumane in most instances. Other furs come from endangered species and are poached in 3rd world countries with little enforcement.
I love eating animals. If you don't like it you can kiss my ass.
boedicca - Your guilt makes you very defensive. Maybe if you used the excuse that you didn't buy them new and therefore you're not responsible for their deaths, you'd feel better.
Like guns in Chicago, the buyer can walk across the street to buy dead animal skins and its largely symbolic, but still --- Its a step in the right direction.
West Hollywood, Calif. Becomes First City In The U.S. To Ban Fur Sales
Los Angelenos, rejoice!
Last weekend, West Hollywood officially became the first city in the country to ban the sale of wearable fur in retail stores. City council members passed the law by unanimous vote 2 years ago, and it finally went into effect on Sept. 21, 2013, ABC reports.
The ban will apply to all articles of clothing -- anything made to be worn -- but not to furniture items, blankets, or leather products.
That law makes no sense. I can have a mink blanket and a beaver couch but not a mink coat and beaver boots?
Why is leather exempt? Aren't cows animals too?
Are reptile and feathers exempt too?
The ban will apply to all articles of clothing -- anything made to be worn -- but not to furniture items, blankets, or leather products.
So how does this stop fur wearing again? If I can't buy it in W. Hollywood, but I can drive five more minutes to get to a store selling fur, what did this ordinance do again, I mean aside from harm West Hollywood businesses that sell fur?
More feel good legislation that actually does more harm than good.
The problem with some furs is you don't know if they're ranched or trapped. Trapping is inhumane in most instances. Other furs come from endangered species and are poached in 3rd world countries with little enforcement.
And you don't know if the cows/goats/sheep/pigs that were the source of leather you wear were treated humanely, either.
As for humane treatment, slaves in China are treated quite appallingly, but I bet most people here by goods made in China.
The problem with some furs is you don't know if they're ranched or trapped. Trapping is inhumane in most instances. Other furs come from endangered species and are poached in 3rd world countries with little enforcement.
And you don't know if the cows/goats/sheep/pigs that were the source of leather you wear were treated humanely, either.
As for humane treatment, slaves in China are treated quite appallingly, but I bet most people here by goods made in China.
As a matter of fact there are rules and laws dealing with humanely putting an animal down. The problem is many of the "cosmetic" furs come from 2nd and 3rd world countries where enforcement is difficult if non existent and paperwork is forged with money changing hands with officials. Many of them are trapped, a heinous exercise.
The problem with some furs is you don't know if they're ranched or trapped. Trapping is inhumane in most instances. Other furs come from endangered species and are poached in 3rd world countries with little enforcement.
And you don't know if the cows/goats/sheep/pigs that were the source of leather you wear were treated humanely, either.
As for humane treatment, slaves in China are treated quite appallingly, but I bet most people here by goods made in China.
As a matter of fact there are rules and laws dealing with humanely putting an animal down. The problem is many of the "cosmetic" furs come from 2nd and 3rd world countries where enforcement is difficult if non existent and paperwork is forged with money changing hands with officials. Many of them are trapped, a heinous exercise.
....I didn't even read the link....
And you don't know if the cows/goats/sheep/pigs that were the source of leather you wear were treated humanely, either.
As for humane treatment, slaves in China are treated quite appallingly, but I bet most people here by goods made in China.
As a matter of fact there are rules and laws dealing with humanely putting an animal down. The problem is many of the "cosmetic" furs come from 2nd and 3rd world countries where enforcement is difficult if non existent and paperwork is forged with money changing hands with officials. Many of them are trapped, a heinous exercise.
And many fur animals are humanely ranched in the U.S.
About Mink Farming
Do you buy goods made by slaves in China?
Animal abuse compared to child abuse and/or abortion - I can't imagine a more glaring disconnect and/or false equivalencey.
Some of you have said you believe a fetus is a baby and yet in this thread you say they're the same as an animal killed for its fur.
Killing an animal for some product is not abuse.
The issue is you seem to care more about some cow about to be a hamburger then you do for a fetus that is terminated (a human life) that now loses its chance to exist and be a sentient being.