GOP farm bill is a disaster! cuts 23 billion dollars in food assistance to low income children

[danielpalos]

When I was growing up it was school bullies that went after kids’ lunch money, it wasn’t the Congress. This is shameful.

Tax cuts for the rich and make the poor pay for it; right wing policy at it's finest.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If the parents of these low income children simply cut out the cigarettes, lottery tickets, booze, and tattoos -these children would have plenty of food. Shame on them.

Shame on you for talking in stereotypes. IF is a pretty big word, and IF you think you can dictate how these low income folks live their lives and spend their money, go for it. I think you might find it difficult. In the meantime, their kids aren't getting the groceries they need for healthy brain development and sturdy bones, etc. Malnutrition is absolutely unforgivable in this nation. Yes, I agree that we need to make a serious effort to get some folks off perpetual welfare; that starts by making sure the current children living in poverty have the best start we can give them. THAT is what changes the situation, eventually. There is no overnight magic wand solution.

I don't care how they live their lives.

You need to develop critical thinking skills.

You're falling prey to emotional blackmail. boo hooo...."those poor children!"

Can she name these children, even one of them

Of course not, nobody can because they don't exist.

Poverty is a choice- the parents choose to get high or drunk over being responsible.

Poverty is not a choice

I don't care how they live their lives.

You need to develop critical thinking skills.

You're falling prey to emotional blackmail. boo hooo...."those poor children!"

Can she name these children, even one of them

Why don't we start with the names of your children, Rosy?
What kind of comment was that, anyway?

My kids are well fed, can you name even one child who will not eat because of trump

nope, thus you stand corrected old maid...

why did you never have kids, did you abort them?

LOL Shut up, troll. My granddaughter graduates high school next month. I've worked with low income families for years in various capacities, and I've met plenty of kids who were ravenous when they got to school for their free breakfast and lunch. Summers, they're not so lucky. Our state has already instituted the restrictions that are in the Ag bill this thread is discussing, so it won't have any additional effect here. But yeah, there are plenty of hungry kids out there, and I've met a bunch of them. Sometimes their parents too. I've had students that I've casually "fed" by bringing "snacks" and extra sandwiches when I wasn't hungry in the least. And they inhale it.

Fact America is the only country where the poor people weigh more than those who have jobs

We are one of the few places where healthy food cost more than junk food


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[deanrd]

Still not doing your studying.

I have three kids in college turd

Doubtful. Those are "liberal indoctrination centers".

Can you name a GOP president who did not go to a university or college

lol

Can you named a democrat president who colluded with the Russians?

This is fun, what else ya got?

Can you name me a Republican President that colluded with the Russians?

Donald Trump

 

[koshergrl]

Shame on you for talking in stereotypes. IF is a pretty big word, and IF you think you can dictate how these low income folks live their lives and spend their money, go for it. I think you might find it difficult. In the meantime, their kids aren't getting the groceries they need for healthy brain development and sturdy bones, etc. Malnutrition is absolutely unforgivable in this nation. Yes, I agree that we need to make a serious effort to get some folks off perpetual welfare; that starts by making sure the current children living in poverty have the best start we can give them. THAT is what changes the situation, eventually. There is no overnight magic wand solution.

I don't care how they live their lives.

You need to develop critical thinking skills.

You're falling prey to emotional blackmail. boo hooo...."those poor children!"

Food stamps and welfare are slave traps. They are the democrats' modern version of big game pits.

It is also the means by which the left infiltrates our rural communities and schools.

End it. I would love to see the entire USDA go..or at least be pruned back to the root.

I have to disagree. I grew up poor, single mother of 5, we ate government cheese and powdered government milk. My mom worked full time while raising us and did the best she could with some help from the government on rent and food. She eventually earned a college degree going to school part time, took her like 8-10 years but she did it.

Do some defraud and abuse government assistance programs absolutely, but I hate to see people broad brushing everyone on assistance as drug addicts, alcoholics, or lazy because that is not true.

Our backgrounds sound very similar.
My mother worked up to 3 jobs at a time also went to school, raised 4 kids. She didn't use welfare, however...and we would have qualified.

The USDA is a monstrous, bloated and unnecessary racket. They engage dependent families and then they use that to justify every land and money grab those criminals in office decide to cook up.

The USDA is in control of the foodstamp program, multiple farm programs, and the USFS.

It's a racket, it needs to end. Cut off all these ridiculous rackets. We will manage to feed the kids...btw forcing Oregonian snap recipients to participate in job programs has resulted in our foodstamp numbers to drop precipitously. People will find work when they have to. I promise. And the truly desperate ones will continue to be helped. Our communities are not going to stand by and allow children in their communities to starve.

That's like booting people off government programs because incompetent morons running the government programs allowed $400 billion in government waste and fraud, yes $400 billion just in 2016 alone. Their incompetence is off the charts.

Now lets put this in context. The House GOP plan proposed to punish SNAP recipients and maybe save $2 billion a year. Okay where's their plan to reduce the other $398 billion in waste and fraud? And all the heavy lifting of the GOP plan is forced onto the poor, I don't see anyone in government being held accountable or even asked to lift a finger here. Typical DC push out a mandate, don't do any of the work, just issue a mandate and pat themselves on the back like they accomplished something.

Meh 2 billion a year is better than 0.00 a year.

Baby steps. Shut down the USDA.
Shut down the EPA.
Shut down the Dept. of the Interior.

Our world would improve immediately.

 

[RealDave]

Like the multi-national corporations that make $$Billions yet they all want a subsidy. Doesn't that just piss you off!

That's one of the problems with the ends of the spectrum - we just knee-jerk to or against virtually every issue, not listening to, considering, or giving an inch to the other side.

We should be better than this, don't you think? Who is the first to be the adult in the room?
.

Here is the problem:

We on the right are all for helping out the truly needy. But I stress the word "truly." We would like to see people get off of welfare instead of on.

On the left, the more government dependents, the better; the more likely Democrat voters. So they have no interest in getting people off of these programs. When they get in power, let anybody who wants to get on these programs get on them.

So when we talk about the so-called poor, we are talking about a mixture of people who need assistance and people who are on assistance because they got on so easily and really don't need it.

The solution to the problem of course would be if we only put the truly need on them, but Democrats would never go for that. It works against their political goals.

My Judgemental here is a freaking expert.

Did you knov there are zero Republicans on welfare, food stamps etc. Nope, not a one. Just because Red States lead the pack in government money grubbing does not mean anything. I can hop over the mountain into a county that is one of the most Republican in the State of Pennsylvania ans see lots of people on government assistance.

TanF is a program designed to get people on their own. Most people leave the program through employment. So quit lying about this all the time.

You people want a low minimum wage & when people work those jobs they still need help. That is subsidizing corporrations, your favorite way to spend money.


The fact is you don't know shit why people need help. You are just a selfish little shit.

Yes, I am selfish. What made me that way? Could it be those people I see at the store with their SNAP's cards? You know, they load the belt full of goodies, pay for them with SNAP's, and then whip out that wad of cash for their cigarettes , beer, flowers, huge bags of dog food, cat litter, perfume......

I see it all the time. Now they are in line bugging us to buy some of our food items. They want to check out 30 bucks of our items, and when we get out of line, we pay them 15 bucks for the items they bought for us. The store is working on throwing those people out, but few will take the time to report them.

I know all about those people. In fact had to evict a food stamp family from one of my apartments. Same thing, huge dog, both smoked, Obama phone, three cats, and the woman stayed home all day doing nothing.

No. What pisses me off are when the lying left call tax breaks a subsidy. They really think everybody is as stupid as they are.

What pisses me off is that you dipshits think it isn't.

 

[RealDave]

If the parents of these low income children simply cut out the cigarettes, lottery tickets, booze, and tattoos -these children would have plenty of food. Shame on them.

Shame on you for talking in stereotypes. IF is a pretty big word, and IF you think you can dictate how these low income folks live their lives and spend their money, go for it. I think you might find it difficult. In the meantime, their kids aren't getting the groceries they need for healthy brain development and sturdy bones, etc. Malnutrition is absolutely unforgivable in this nation. Yes, I agree that we need to make a serious effort to get some folks off perpetual welfare; that starts by making sure the current children living in poverty have the best start we can give them. THAT is what changes the situation, eventually. There is no overnight magic wand solution.

I don't care how they live their lives.

You need to develop critical thinking skills.

You're falling prey to emotional blackmail. boo hooo...."those poor children!"

Can she name these children, even one of them

Of course not, nobody can because they don't exist.

Poverty is a choice- the parents choose to get high or drunk over being responsible.

Poverty is not a choice

I don't care how they live their lives.

You need to develop critical thinking skills.

You're falling prey to emotional blackmail. boo hooo...."those poor children!"

Can she name these children, even one of them

Why don't we start with the names of your children, Rosy?
What kind of comment was that, anyway?

My kids are well fed, can you name even one child who will not eat because of trump

nope, thus you stand corrected old maid...

why did you never have kids, did you abort them?

LOL Shut up, troll. My granddaughter graduates high school next month. I've worked with low income families for years in various capacities, and I've met plenty of kids who were ravenous when they got to school for their free breakfast and lunch. Summers, they're not so lucky. Our state has already instituted the restrictions that are in the Ag bill this thread is discussing, so it won't have any additional effect here. But yeah, there are plenty of hungry kids out there, and I've met a bunch of them. Sometimes their parents too. I've had students that I've casually "fed" by bringing "snacks" and extra sandwiches when I wasn't hungry in the least. And they inhale it.

Fact America is the only country where the poor people weigh more than those who have jobs

cheap food is fattening you dumbass. This is how fucking ignorant you people are.

 

[RealDave]

HEY ALL LOOK it's a F*CKING NAZI!

Forced sterilization.
Nice call you moron!

Here's the conundrum... I think bringing children into this world that you cannot afford to support is a disgrace and borders on neglect. Now, with that being said, we certainly can't hold the child accountable by not making sure they at least have the basics.

However, this should n't absolve the parents of any requirements of them to get the help.

If it were up to me, a requirement to receive government aid would be getting fixed before you get one red cent. No more having kids while on social programs. You can never eliminate poverty when the government rewards you for making more people in poverty. The apple usually doesn't fall far from the tree.

What do you think working people do when they can't afford anymore kids moron? We get ourselves fixed so we can't have anymore kids.

I guess if you get hurt & can;t work, you drown your kids in the bathtub?

 

[Rosy]

Shame on you for talking in stereotypes. IF is a pretty big word, and IF you think you can dictate how these low income folks live their lives and spend their money, go for it. I think you might find it difficult. In the meantime, their kids aren't getting the groceries they need for healthy brain development and sturdy bones, etc. Malnutrition is absolutely unforgivable in this nation. Yes, I agree that we need to make a serious effort to get some folks off perpetual welfare; that starts by making sure the current children living in poverty have the best start we can give them. THAT is what changes the situation, eventually. There is no overnight magic wand solution.

I don't care how they live their lives.

You need to develop critical thinking skills.

You're falling prey to emotional blackmail. boo hooo...."those poor children!"

Can she name these children, even one of them

Of course not, nobody can because they don't exist.

Poverty is a choice- the parents choose to get high or drunk over being responsible.

Poverty is not a choice

Can she name these children, even one of them

Why don't we start with the names of your children, Rosy?
What kind of comment was that, anyway?

My kids are well fed, can you name even one child who will not eat because of trump

nope, thus you stand corrected old maid...

why did you never have kids, did you abort them?

LOL Shut up, troll. My granddaughter graduates high school next month. I've worked with low income families for years in various capacities, and I've met plenty of kids who were ravenous when they got to school for their free breakfast and lunch. Summers, they're not so lucky. Our state has already instituted the restrictions that are in the Ag bill this thread is discussing, so it won't have any additional effect here. But yeah, there are plenty of hungry kids out there, and I've met a bunch of them. Sometimes their parents too. I've had students that I've casually "fed" by bringing "snacks" and extra sandwiches when I wasn't hungry in the least. And they inhale it.

Fact America is the only country where the poor people weigh more than those who have jobs

cheap food is fattening you dumbass. This is how fucking ignorant you people are.

Which is why I eat properly

 

[Unkotare]

It's the conservative conundrum on children:

Abortion is murder, but once they are born let the little bastards starve.

Partisan bullshit.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

HEY ALL LOOK it's a F*CKING NAZI!

Forced sterilization.
Nice call you moron!

Here's the conundrum... I think bringing children into this world that you cannot afford to support is a disgrace and borders on neglect. Now, with that being said, we certainly can't hold the child accountable by not making sure they at least have the basics.

However, this should n't absolve the parents of any requirements of them to get the help.

If it were up to me, a requirement to receive government aid would be getting fixed before you get one red cent. No more having kids while on social programs. You can never eliminate poverty when the government rewards you for making more people in poverty. The apple usually doesn't fall far from the tree.

What do you think working people do when they can't afford anymore kids moron? We get ourselves fixed so we can't have anymore kids.

I guess if you get hurt & can;t work, you drown your kids in the bathtub?

No, you file for disability and allow a medical professional to determine if you are capable of working or not.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Like the multi-national corporations that make $$Billions yet they all want a subsidy. Doesn't that just piss you off!

Here is the problem:

We on the right are all for helping out the truly needy. But I stress the word "truly." We would like to see people get off of welfare instead of on.

On the left, the more government dependents, the better; the more likely Democrat voters. So they have no interest in getting people off of these programs. When they get in power, let anybody who wants to get on these programs get on them.

So when we talk about the so-called poor, we are talking about a mixture of people who need assistance and people who are on assistance because they got on so easily and really don't need it.

The solution to the problem of course would be if we only put the truly need on them, but Democrats would never go for that. It works against their political goals.

My Judgemental here is a freaking expert.

Did you knov there are zero Republicans on welfare, food stamps etc. Nope, not a one. Just because Red States lead the pack in government money grubbing does not mean anything. I can hop over the mountain into a county that is one of the most Republican in the State of Pennsylvania ans see lots of people on government assistance.

TanF is a program designed to get people on their own. Most people leave the program through employment. So quit lying about this all the time.

You people want a low minimum wage & when people work those jobs they still need help. That is subsidizing corporrations, your favorite way to spend money.


The fact is you don't know shit why people need help. You are just a selfish little shit.

Yes, I am selfish. What made me that way? Could it be those people I see at the store with their SNAP's cards? You know, they load the belt full of goodies, pay for them with SNAP's, and then whip out that wad of cash for their cigarettes , beer, flowers, huge bags of dog food, cat litter, perfume......

I see it all the time. Now they are in line bugging us to buy some of our food items. They want to check out 30 bucks of our items, and when we get out of line, we pay them 15 bucks for the items they bought for us. The store is working on throwing those people out, but few will take the time to report them.

I know all about those people. In fact had to evict a food stamp family from one of my apartments. Same thing, huge dog, both smoked, Obama phone, three cats, and the woman stayed home all day doing nothing.

No. What pisses me off are when the lying left call tax breaks a subsidy. They really think everybody is as stupid as they are.

What pisses me off is that you dipshits think it isn't.

It isn't. A subsidy is when the government gives money. A tax break is when government takes less of people's money.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Here's the conundrum... I think bringing children into this world that you cannot afford to support is a disgrace and borders on neglect. Now, with that being said, we certainly can't hold the child accountable by not making sure they at least have the basics.

However, this should n't absolve the parents of any requirements of them to get the help.

If it were up to me, a requirement to receive government aid would be getting fixed before you get one red cent. No more having kids while on social programs. You can never eliminate poverty when the government rewards you for making more people in poverty. The apple usually doesn't fall far from the tree.

They tried that in New Jersey years and years ago. Got shot down, probably by the courts, real quick. So try to think of another way without stunting the next generation's brains.

Then maybe it's time to reintroduce it. When you reward people for having kids they can't afford, they will only have more kids. Allowing it to continue means we have a problem we'll never be able to solve.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Can you name a GOP president who did not go to a university or college

lol

Can you named a democrat president who colluded with the Russians?

This is fun, what else ya got?

Can you name me a Republican President that colluded with the Russians?

no president worth his salt allowed Russians in the WhiteHouse, behind closed doors, unattended by US security EXCEPT DON TRAITOR TRUMP.

FK TRUMP

Yeah, next thing you know he'll be inviting Black Lies Matter into the White House.

hes already had an office full of blacks looking up kelly anns dress --- but they werent Russians.

hey Ray, are you a professional idiot or do you do it for free ?

Gee.....a liberal resorting to personal insults when backed into a corner? How rare.

 

[DOTR]

When I was growing up it was school bullies that went after kids’ lunch money, it wasn’t the Congress. This is shameful.

When you were growing up the lunch money came from the kids parents.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

"If it were up to me, a requirement to receive government aid would be getting fixed before you get one red cent. No more having kids while on social programs."
Once again you ignorant twat, teabagging fool, these are your words.
So stop trying to "truly" back away from them, you NAZI F*CK>

HEY ALL LOOK it's a F*CKING NAZI!

Forced sterilization.
Nice call you moron!

Here's the conundrum... I think bringing children into this world that you cannot afford to support is a disgrace and borders on neglect. Now, with that being said, we certainly can't hold the child accountable by not making sure they at least have the basics.

However, this should n't absolve the parents of any requirements of them to get the help.

If it were up to me, a requirement to receive government aid would be getting fixed before you get one red cent. No more having kids while on social programs. You can never eliminate poverty when the government rewards you for making more people in poverty. The apple usually doesn't fall far from the tree.

What do you think working people do when they can't afford anymore kids moron? We get ourselves fixed so we can't have anymore kids.

Who's backing away from them? I said it and stand behind every word. Why do you leftists always try to change the subject when you have nothing to say?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Now all you are doing is talking out of your twat!~
Because "truly" they are getting money from the tax payers.
But you are "TRULY" do ignorant to know what you are talking about.

Like the multi-national corporations that make $$Billions yet they all want a subsidy. Doesn't that just piss you off!

Here is the problem:

We on the right are all for helping out the truly needy. But I stress the word "truly." We would like to see people get off of welfare instead of on.

On the left, the more government dependents, the better; the more likely Democrat voters. So they have no interest in getting people off of these programs. When they get in power, let anybody who wants to get on these programs get on them.

So when we talk about the so-called poor, we are talking about a mixture of people who need assistance and people who are on assistance because they got on so easily and really don't need it.

The solution to the problem of course would be if we only put the truly need on them, but Democrats would never go for that. It works against their political goals.

My Judgemental here is a freaking expert.

Did you knov there are zero Republicans on welfare, food stamps etc. Nope, not a one. Just because Red States lead the pack in government money grubbing does not mean anything. I can hop over the mountain into a county that is one of the most Republican in the State of Pennsylvania ans see lots of people on government assistance.

TanF is a program designed to get people on their own. Most people leave the program through employment. So quit lying about this all the time.

You people want a low minimum wage & when people work those jobs they still need help. That is subsidizing corporrations, your favorite way to spend money.


The fact is you don't know shit why people need help. You are just a selfish little shit.

Yes, I am selfish. What made me that way? Could it be those people I see at the store with their SNAP's cards? You know, they load the belt full of goodies, pay for them with SNAP's, and then whip out that wad of cash for their cigarettes , beer, flowers, huge bags of dog food, cat litter, perfume......

I see it all the time. Now they are in line bugging us to buy some of our food items. They want to check out 30 bucks of our items, and when we get out of line, we pay them 15 bucks for the items they bought for us. The store is working on throwing those people out, but few will take the time to report them.

I know all about those people. In fact had to evict a food stamp family from one of my apartments. Same thing, huge dog, both smoked, Obama phone, three cats, and the woman stayed home all day doing nothing.

No. What pisses me off are when the lying left call tax breaks a subsidy. They really think everybody is as stupid as they are.

To you they are getting taxpayer money because you cradle-to-grave leftists think that all money belongs to government, and what they allow us to keep is a gift from them to us.

 

[DOTR]

Oh no Republicans are starving kids! This shit is never ending.

 

[danielpalos]

I don't care how they live their lives.

You need to develop critical thinking skills.

You're falling prey to emotional blackmail. boo hooo...."those poor children!"

Food stamps and welfare are slave traps. They are the democrats' modern version of big game pits.

It is also the means by which the left infiltrates our rural communities and schools.

End it. I would love to see the entire USDA go..or at least be pruned back to the root.

I have to disagree. I grew up poor, single mother of 5, we ate government cheese and powdered government milk. My mom worked full time while raising us and did the best she could with some help from the government on rent and food. She eventually earned a college degree going to school part time, took her like 8-10 years but she did it.

Do some defraud and abuse government assistance programs absolutely, but I hate to see people broad brushing everyone on assistance as drug addicts, alcoholics, or lazy because that is not true.

Our backgrounds sound very similar.
My mother worked up to 3 jobs at a time also went to school, raised 4 kids. She didn't use welfare, however...and we would have qualified.

The USDA is a monstrous, bloated and unnecessary racket. They engage dependent families and then they use that to justify every land and money grab those criminals in office decide to cook up.

The USDA is in control of the foodstamp program, multiple farm programs, and the USFS.

It's a racket, it needs to end. Cut off all these ridiculous rackets. We will manage to feed the kids...btw forcing Oregonian snap recipients to participate in job programs has resulted in our foodstamp numbers to drop precipitously. People will find work when they have to. I promise. And the truly desperate ones will continue to be helped. Our communities are not going to stand by and allow children in their communities to starve.

That's like booting people off government programs because incompetent morons running the government programs allowed $400 billion in government waste and fraud, yes $400 billion just in 2016 alone. Their incompetence is off the charts.

Now lets put this in context. The House GOP plan proposed to punish SNAP recipients and maybe save $2 billion a year. Okay where's their plan to reduce the other $398 billion in waste and fraud? And all the heavy lifting of the GOP plan is forced onto the poor, I don't see anyone in government being held accountable or even asked to lift a finger here. Typical DC push out a mandate, don't do any of the work, just issue a mandate and pat themselves on the back like they accomplished something.

Meh 2 billion a year is better than 0.00 a year.

Baby steps. Shut down the USDA.
Shut down the EPA.
Shut down the Dept. of the Interior.

Our world would improve immediately.

shut down our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; the right wing refuses to pay wartime tax rates for them, anyway.

 

[danielpalos]

When I was growing up it was school bullies that went after kids’ lunch money, it wasn’t the Congress. This is shameful.

When you were growing up the lunch money came from the kids parents.

Yet, the right wing can't seem to abolish the drug war.

 

[boilermaker55]

You are backing away twat-face.
Go back and read your response you fool
Just like you and "the peemeister" lie when you get the chance.

"If it were up to me, a requirement to receive government aid would be getting fixed before you get one red cent. No more having kids while on social programs."
Once again you ignorant twat, teabagging fool, these are your words.
So stop trying to "truly" back away from them, you NAZI F*CK>

HEY ALL LOOK it's a F*CKING NAZI!

Forced sterilization.
Nice call you moron!

Here's the conundrum... I think bringing children into this world that you cannot afford to support is a disgrace and borders on neglect. Now, with that being said, we certainly can't hold the child accountable by not making sure they at least have the basics.

However, this should n't absolve the parents of any requirements of them to get the help.

If it were up to me, a requirement to receive government aid would be getting fixed before you get one red cent. No more having kids while on social programs. You can never eliminate poverty when the government rewards you for making more people in poverty. The apple usually doesn't fall far from the tree.

What do you think working people do when they can't afford anymore kids moron? We get ourselves fixed so we can't have anymore kids.

Who's backing away from them? I said it and stand behind every word. Why do you leftists always try to change the subject when you have nothing to say?