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Yeah but who says we taxpayers should be footing the bill??
Who says the taxpayers should be responsible for providing the money??
these things can happen to anyone Claudette....i would rather see my tax dollars helping out Americans than having them go to some third world shithole who are going to spit in our faces no matter what....
I for one don't feel its my duty help anyone.. I have no problem with giving to charities though and letting those charities dispense said money. Why? Because it was my choice to give to that charity.
As for those third world shitholes? As far as I'm concerned our money doesn't need to go to any other country. If they can't survive on their own then tough shit.
these things can happen to anyone Claudette....i would rather see my tax dollars helping out Americans than having them go to some third world shithole who are going to spit in our faces no matter what....
I for one don't feel its my duty help anyone.. I have no problem with giving to charities though and letting those charities dispense said money. Why? Because it was my choice to give to that charity.
As for those third world shitholes? As far as I'm concerned our money doesn't need to go to any other country. If they can't survive on their own then tough shit.
charities are good at helping feed and cloth people ....but how good are they at paying a mortgage or car payment,medical expenses....i was told they are only as good as the supplies they have and the money on hand.....with some it may be pretty finite....if im wrong let me know.....
I hate that there is a need for welfare. Hate that people work the "welfare system" like they do. Hate that my tax dollar goes to lots of things I hate.
But I hate to tell you Claudette, welfare isn't going to be done away with. Unless your kind is taking over.
Which i doubt.
who is saying we should eliminate welfare?
No one of any value.
Another lie by a poster who was caught red handed lying. And no, Zeke...I will not let it go...for you to make believe you are something you are not so you can "validate" your sentiments is...well...as low as one can get.
Claudette is.
But I'm glad to see you think she doesn't have any value. I agree.
Its called stupidity and a road to an easy way of life for all the freeloaders in America.
There is an easy way. Do away with Welfare and all that other social bullshit brought to you by the Democratic party of America.
You'd be surprised how quickly someone can take care of themselves when the free ride comes to a screeching halt. You'd be surprised how quickly they can take care of themselves when they have to.
Why don't you share some examples of other places that have no welfare or "social bullshit" that has resulted in their poor people discovering prosperity.
I'm sure your list of examples will be riveting.
When you ignore this request or reply with a lame excuse why you refuse to share even one example, then we'll know have proven just how far out of whack your warped view really is.
WTF?
seriously; are you saying nobody from a country that doesnt have welfare ever found prosperity? that only help from the Nanny State can lead to prosperity?
and conversely you seem to be saying then that there are no tragic stories of the devastating effects of the pandering welfare state?
who is saying we should eliminate welfare?
No one of any value.
Another lie by a poster who was caught red handed lying. And no, Zeke...I will not let it go...for you to make believe you are something you are not so you can "validate" your sentiments is...well...as low as one can get.
Claudette is.
But I'm glad to see you think she doesn't have any value. I agree.
Seems to me she was saying that welfare shouldn't be provided by the government but charity given by those who choose to provide for those in need.
Why don't you share some examples of other places that have no welfare or "social bullshit" that has resulted in their poor people discovering prosperity.
I'm sure your list of examples will be riveting.
When you ignore this request or reply with a lame excuse why you refuse to share even one example, then we'll know have proven just how far out of whack your warped view really is.
WTF?
seriously; are you saying nobody from a country that doesnt have welfare ever found prosperity? that only help from the Nanny State can lead to prosperity?
and conversely you seem to be saying then that there are no tragic stories of the devastating effects of the pandering welfare state?
Not at all what I'm saying, but please feel free to argue against that point anyway if that's the best you can do.
Claudette seems to be under the misguided and selfish assumption that removing welfare and social safety nets will result in prosperity for the poor. I'm asking for societies where this has happened. I'm sure she is basing her opinion on something that has happened in reality and not just speaking out of her ass. So let's see the examples of where this has been shown to work.
LOL, the mental backflips you must have to do to justify contradicting yourself with every breath you take must be exhausting.
So you aren't taxing people into poverty?
And stating the truth is never exhausting. It's lying that gets exhausted. See. When you tell the truth, you don't have to remember your story. You just say things as they are. When you are lying you have to remember every detail you've said to keep your story straight. Which is why most liars get caught.
If you didn't take as much money from people, there would be far less poor, regardless of age. We would be in a far better position to take care of one another and support ourselves.
So this is where the major disconnect happens. I'd love for you to explain how you and your heros claim that "47% of the country are moochers" and how the "poor don't pay any taxes" and yet at the same time claim that "they are being taxed in to poverty".
Like I said, you're an Olympic quality back peddler and circus grade contortionist to be able to hold absolutely contradictory viewpoints that you so easily spew.
Claudette is.
But I'm glad to see you think she doesn't have any value. I agree.
Seems to me she was saying that welfare shouldn't be provided by the government but charity given by those who choose to provide for those in need.
And it seems to me that you're a raging hypocrite. So what was your point again that I should care about?
WTF?
seriously; are you saying nobody from a country that doesnt have welfare ever found prosperity? that only help from the Nanny State can lead to prosperity?
and conversely you seem to be saying then that there are no tragic stories of the devastating effects of the pandering welfare state?
Not at all what I'm saying, but please feel free to argue against that point anyway if that's the best you can do.
Claudette seems to be under the misguided and selfish assumption that removing welfare and social safety nets will result in prosperity for the poor. I'm asking for societies where this has happened. I'm sure she is basing her opinion on something that has happened in reality and not just speaking out of her ass. So let's see the examples of where this has been shown to work.
you make the idiotic and false argument that the "safety net" is truly a safety net and not a crutch in fact for millions.
the evidence is all over the place moron. what happened when clinton restricted welfare in the 1990s and limited it to 21 months/
where are all the millions that were going to starve to death according to the rants of liberals like you at the time?
idiot
that "47%" had it WAY BETTER when Republicans ran things
true story
who is the hypocrite here leftard?
Why don't you share some examples of other places that have no welfare or "social bullshit" that has resulted in their poor people discovering prosperity.
I'm sure your list of examples will be riveting.
When you ignore this request or reply with a lame excuse why you refuse to share even one example, then we'll know have proven just how far out of whack your warped view really is.
WTF?
seriously; are you saying nobody from a country that doesnt have welfare ever found prosperity? that only help from the Nanny State can lead to prosperity?
and conversely you seem to be saying then that there are no tragic stories of the devastating effects of the pandering welfare state?
Not at all what I'm saying, but please feel free to argue against that point anyway if that's the best you can do.
Claudette seems to be under the misguided and selfish assumption that removing welfare and social safety nets will result in prosperity for the poor. I'm asking for societies where this has happened. I'm sure she is basing her opinion on something that has happened in reality and not just speaking out of her ass. So let's see the examples of where this has been shown to work.
Not at all what I'm saying, but please feel free to argue against that point anyway if that's the best you can do.
Claudette seems to be under the misguided and selfish assumption that removing welfare and social safety nets will result in prosperity for the poor. I'm asking for societies where this has happened. I'm sure she is basing her opinion on something that has happened in reality and not just speaking out of her ass. So let's see the examples of where this has been shown to work.
you make the idiotic and false argument that the "safety net" is truly a safety net and not a crutch in fact for millions.
the evidence is all over the place moron. what happened when clinton restricted welfare in the 1990s and limited it to 21 months/
where are all the millions that were going to starve to death according to the rants of liberals like you at the time?
idiot
Weird, You keep telling me the argument I'm making yet I don't remember saying these things. Can you point out where I said this? I'd love to read my own opinion that apparently I forgot about.
Seems to me she was saying that welfare shouldn't be provided by the government but charity given by those who choose to provide for those in need.
And it seems to me that you're a raging hypocrite. So what was your point again that I should care about?
Im a raging hypocrite for correcting your misperception? That seems to be a jump.
So you aren't taxing people into poverty?
And stating the truth is never exhausting. It's lying that gets exhausted. See. When you tell the truth, you don't have to remember your story. You just say things as they are. When you are lying you have to remember every detail you've said to keep your story straight. Which is why most liars get caught.
If you didn't take as much money from people, there would be far less poor, regardless of age. We would be in a far better position to take care of one another and support ourselves.
So this is where the major disconnect happens. I'd love for you to explain how you and your heros claim that "47% of the country are moochers" and how the "poor don't pay any taxes" and yet at the same time claim that "they are being taxed in to poverty".
Like I said, you're an Olympic quality back peddler and circus grade contortionist to be able to hold absolutely contradictory viewpoints that you so easily spew.
Avatar - Still waiting for your response. Your hypocrisy is on full display for everyone to see. This is your chance to face reality.
that "47%" had it WAY BETTER when Republicans ran things
true story
who is the hypocrite here leftard?
You got me. Your highly authoritative opinion and lack of supporting evidence really showed me. Well done.
And it seems to me that you're a raging hypocrite. So what was your point again that I should care about?
Im a raging hypocrite for correcting your misperception? That seems to be a jump.
You're a raging hypocrite for saying ridiculous hypocritical things. Hopefully that clears up your confusion. Doubt it though.
that "47%" had it WAY BETTER when Republicans ran things
true story
who is the hypocrite here leftard?
You got me. Your highly authoritative opinion and lack of supporting evidence really showed me. Well done.
dont take my word idiot; surely there is a reason welfare and food stamps are at record levels?
are you saying they arent?
prove it then; cuz i can prove they are. 16 million NEW food stamps recipients since obamam took office
i mean unless you are going to admit claudette has a point?
She said...WTF?
seriously; are you saying nobody from a country that doesnt have welfare ever found prosperity? that only help from the Nanny State can lead to prosperity?
and conversely you seem to be saying then that there are no tragic stories of the devastating effects of the pandering welfare state?
Not at all what I'm saying, but please feel free to argue against that point anyway if that's the best you can do.
Claudette seems to be under the misguided and selfish assumption that removing welfare and social safety nets will result in prosperity for the poor. I'm asking for societies where this has happened. I'm sure she is basing her opinion on something that has happened in reality and not just speaking out of her ass. So let's see the examples of where this has been shown to work.
A few things regarding what I put in bold...
1) Where does she say it will lead to prosperity for the poor?
2) How is it selfish to prefer to give money to a charity of YOUR choice compared to government giving your money to charity of ITS choice?
