Green Energy Red In The Face

[Toro]

If you send a nice letter, maybe Canucks will be authorizes as victims as well.

Let me know if you need help with the letter.

Do you hate capitalism?

Because it's capitalism that's driving green energy.

You do not know this only if your news sources are biased political web sites.

OMG!!!!

An 'is not, issss nooottttttt!' post!



I mean this in only the kindest way, to a fellow Ranger fan......it is lies, myths and hyperbole that is 'driving green energy.'

I'm not denying that there are folks making tons of money using the scam....
"Obama clean energy loans leave taxpayers in $2.2 billion hole"
Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds





Let me remind you of the words of the godfather of global warming...
"There's a sucker born every minute"
P. T. Barnum,

Irrelevant

But I don't expect anything else from someone who is mainly politically movitated and otherwise clueless.

Sorry.

You should be sorry.....for not being smart.

I notice you couldn't deny anything I've posted.

I’d love to hear your response, but I’m very busy…I have several more quarters to flip.

Obama's incompetence is irrelevant, C&P Queen.

You are arguing against capitalism.

Just like the Marxists.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And it isn't going to get any better, no matter what the Republican party's God says.

Funny you should say "the Republican party's God".....kinda put your foot in your mouth.

It was Liberals, Democrats, socialists who used that reference....God, Jesus, the Messiah.....

...about the dunce who turned out to be the worst failure as a President in a century.


You're a business guy???

Well...let me give you the business....just so we can see who is really clueless.

1... in today’s recovery — the slowest in the modern era going back to 1947 — private capital investment has lagged badly. ... so has the jobs situation, with 92 million dropping out of the workforce altogether. A labor-participation rate of 62.8% and an employment-to-population rate of 58% are historic lows indicative of the anemic jobs recovery. Big Business Swings Behind a Mantra of Growth - The New York Sun


2. Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama


3. . "Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession
. ...the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey ....indicate that the real (inflation-adjusted) median annual household income in America has fallen by 4.4 percent during the "recovery," after having fallen by 1.8 during the recession.
Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession


4. . In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton."Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart


5. "Surprise: U.S. Economic Data Have Been the World's Most Disappointing
It's not only the just-released University of Michigan consumer confidence report and February retail sales on Thursday that surprised economists and investors with another dose of underwhelming news. Overall, U.S. economic data have been falling short of prognosticators' expectations by the most in six years." Surprise: U.S. Economic Data Have Been the World's Most Disappointing

6. . "That basic math is why middle class incomes have been in decline under Obama. The Census Bureau reports that since Obama became President 7 years ago, real median household income has fallen by $1,300 a year. Heritage Foundation Chief Economist Steve Moore explained in testimony before the Ways and Means Committee, “At 2 percent growth the economy doesn’t spin off enough jobs to increase wages, and tax revenues grow much too slowly to balance the budget.”
The recession officially ended more than 6 years ago. Wages and incomes have always grown in recoveries, not declined. Moreover, the American historical record is the deeper the recession, the stronger the recovery. The economy is supposed to boom in a recovery to catch up with its long term economic growth trendline. But over 6 years after the recession ended, that still has not happened. Instead, what we have gotten under President Obama is the worst recovery from a recession since the Great Depression." Realizing The Super Bowl Of American Economic Growth



7. "Even if you leave out the first quarter of 2009—when the recession that started in December 2007 was still ongoing--President Barack Obama has presided over the lowest average first-quarter GDP growth of any president who has served since 1947, which is the earliest year for which the Bureau of Economic Analysis has calculated quarterly GDP growth. " http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/terence...-obama-has-lowest-average-1stq-gdp-growth-any


8. The Obama Administration is aggressively exploiting regulation to achieve its policy agenda, issuing 157 new major rules at a cost to Americans approaching $73 billion annually....twice the annual average of his predecessor George W. Bush. And much more regulation is on the way, with another 125 major rules on the Administration’s to-do list, including dozens linked to the Dodd–Frank financial regulation law and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare. Red Tape Rising: Five Years of Regulatory Expansion


9. . "...take-home pay for many American workers has effectively fallen since the economic recovery began in 2009, according to a new study by an advocacy group that is to be released on Thursday.

The declines were greatest for the lowest-paid workers in sectors where hiring has been strong — home health care, food preparation and retailing — even though wages were already below average to begin with in those service industries.

“Stagnant wages are a problem for everyone at this point, but the imbalance in the economy has become more pronounced since the recession,”..." http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/03/b...rkers-see-biggest-drop-in-paychecks.html?_r=0


10. . "Obamacare health insurance co-ops surged past the $1 billion mark in losses this week, making history of sorts.The insolvencies, totaling $1.36 billion, mean that the co-ops have burned through more than half of the original $2 billion appropriatedin 2010 for the program under the Affordable Care Act. The funds were loaned to the start-up co-ops in 2012 and were to be repaid in 15 years, according to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which manages Obamacare.


...13 of the 23 federally-financed Obamacare co-ops have officially failed in only two years. Most are in the process of default as insurance regulators attempt to pay customer’s medical bills, cover medical providers and pay other creditors.
Obamacare Co-Op Mess Causes $1.3 Billion In Losses


11. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/01/obama-always-wrong-never-in-doubt.php

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth."http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/09/investing/hedge-fund-billionaire-defends-obama-chanos/



12. ".... calculating how much the debt increased during Obama's two terms. On January 20, 2009, when he was sworn in, the debt was $10.626 trillion. On January 20, 2017, it was $19.947 trillion. That's why most people say Obama added $9 trillion to the debt, more than any other president."
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?




I have a feeling you'll have nothing else to say.

 

[miketx]

The political right is absolutely stupid.

(Other than Todd, who is a realistic capitalist.)

These jobs aren't coming back.

Ever.

We bought 120,000 acres of timberland last year.

After we bought it, I went to the land and watched all the mechanization chop down the trees and put them on the carts.

There were eight people working on the land. Thirty years ago, there would have been 200.

Today, the Luddite political right is complaining in the same way the Luddite political left did 40 years ago.

But they are too dumb and clueless to know what's going on.

So coal miners aren't allowed to use modern equipment?

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you send a nice letter, maybe Canucks will be authorizes as victims as well.

Let me know if you need help with the letter.

Do you hate capitalism?

Because it's capitalism that's driving green energy.

You do not know this only if your news sources are biased political web sites.

OMG!!!!

An 'is not, issss nooottttttt!' post!



I mean this in only the kindest way, to a fellow Ranger fan......it is lies, myths and hyperbole that is 'driving green energy.'

I'm not denying that there are folks making tons of money using the scam....
"Obama clean energy loans leave taxpayers in $2.2 billion hole"
Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds





Let me remind you of the words of the godfather of global warming...
"There's a sucker born every minute"
P. T. Barnum,

Irrelevant

But I don't expect anything else from someone who is mainly politically movitated and otherwise clueless.

Sorry.

You should be sorry.....for not being smart.

I notice you couldn't deny anything I've posted.

I’d love to hear your response, but I’m very busy…I have several more quarters to flip.

Obama's incompetence is irrelevant, C&P Queen.

You are arguing against capitalism.

Just like the Marxists.

Nah....I'm arguing against stupidity and coercion.....i.e., Liberalism.



Funny when a Liberal tries to use 'Marxism' as a pejorative.

I thought you were a smarter guy.

 

[BlackFlag]

That cartoon is a lie. No coal miners are in the White House waiting room since bringing back coal was just a campaign stunt.

 

[Toro]

Typical irrelevant Straw Man argument from the C&P Queen.

Capitalists would embrace technology and innovation.

It is the lifeblood of capitalism.

The Republican Party used to be the party of capitalism.

But now it is the party of grievance and Luddites.

 

[BlackFlag]

The political right is absolutely stupid.

(Other than Todd, who is a realistic capitalist.)

These jobs aren't coming back.

Ever.

We bought 120,000 acres of timberland last year.

After we bought it, I went to the land and watched all the mechanization chop down the trees and put them on the carts.

There were eight people working on the land. Thirty years ago, there would have been 200.

Today, the Luddite political right is complaining in the same way the Luddite political left did 40 years ago.

But they are too dumb and clueless to know what's going on.

So coal miners aren't allowed to use modern equipment?

Of course they are! And not that long from now, that modern equipment won't even need any coal miners!

 

[BlackFlag]

Typical irrelevant Straw Man argument from the C&P Queen.

Capitalists would embrace technology and innovation.

It is the lifeblood of capitalism.

The Republican Party used to be the party of capitalism.

But now it is the party of grievance and Luddites.

They've morphed into the pre-civil rights, populist Democrat party.

 

[PoliticalChic]

“We are very concerned about the effects on the poor of California. California has the highest poverty rate in the nation.” We asked the Senator how the people outside Silicon Valley and Beverly Hills are going to pay for the costs of upgrading their homes. The Senator spoke of the federal subsidies for this.

“California has its own program and we plan on expanding that. The program, of course, will be income qualified and aimed toward identified minorities.” Expanding on that issue, he said anyone who can show they are Black, Hispanic, LGBTQ or disabled will get a special subsidy. We are particularly targeting our Native American friends. As long as you can prove you are at least 1/16 Native American we will provide a full subsidy for those individuals.”​

That that this stops California from doing anything, but that would be blatantly unconstitutional. It's one thing to offer subsidies based on actual financial need—it is quite another to offer subsidies based on criteria that have nothing directly to do with financial need. This amounts to illegal discrimination against those who do not fall under the designated “identified minorities”, and a blatant violation of the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Liberals don't need no Fourteenth Amendment.....they have Orwell:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

 

[Toro]

So coal miners aren't allowed to use modern equipment?

Yes, they are miketx.

Great job at identifying a premise of free market capitalism!

But President Trump promised that lots of coal mining jobs would come back if he was elected.

And though I am sympathetic towards the coal miners who've lost their jobs and the incompetence of Obama's policies, they aren't coming back any time.

 

[Toro]

Liberals don't need no Fourteenth Amendment.....they have Orwell:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Irrelevant sloganeering,

It might appeal to the hyperpartisans that post here, but it isn't a serious solution.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you send a nice letter, maybe Canucks will be authorizes as victims as well.

Let me know if you need help with the letter.

Do you hate capitalism?

Because it's capitalism that's driving green energy.

You do not know this only if your news sources are biased political web sites.

OMG!!!!

An 'is not, issss nooottttttt!' post!



I mean this in only the kindest way, to a fellow Ranger fan......it is lies, myths and hyperbole that is 'driving green energy.'

I'm not denying that there are folks making tons of money using the scam....
"Obama clean energy loans leave taxpayers in $2.2 billion hole"
Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds





Let me remind you of the words of the godfather of global warming...
"There's a sucker born every minute"
P. T. Barnum,

Irrelevant

But I don't expect anything else from someone who is mainly politically movitated and otherwise clueless.

Sorry.

You should be sorry.....for not being smart.

I notice you couldn't deny anything I've posted.

I’d love to hear your response, but I’m very busy…I have several more quarters to flip.

Obama's incompetence is irrelevant, C&P Queen.

You are arguing against capitalism.

Just like the Marxists.

Your lesson for today:
Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramschi’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."


Amazing that at this stage of your life you still don't recognize that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals don't need no Fourteenth Amendment.....they have Orwell:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Irrelevant sloganeering,

It might appeal to the hyperpartisans that post here, but it isn't a serious solution.

It's educated folks it is directed to......not you.

 

[Toro]

Liberals don't need no Fourteenth Amendment.....they have Orwell:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Irrelevant sloganeering,

It might appeal to the hyperpartisans that post here, but it isn't a serious solution.

It's educated folks it is directed to......not you.

But you started the OP.

In many countries, green energy is the most economical form of power production.

It has nothing to do with Obama and the Democratic party.

It has everything to do with capitalism and adherents of free markets.

Free market capitalists and conservatives should be rooting for technological innovation - as they usually do - not hoping against it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals don't need no Fourteenth Amendment.....they have Orwell:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Irrelevant sloganeering,

It might appeal to the hyperpartisans that post here, but it isn't a serious solution.

It's educated folks it is directed to......not you.

But you started the OP.

In many countries, green energy is the most economical form of power production.

It has nothing to do with Obama and the Democratic party.

It has everything to do with capitalism and adherents of free markets.

Free market capitalists and conservatives should be rooting for technological innovation - as they usually do - not hoping against it.

Here is item #1 from the OP>

"The justification for eliminating coal and mandating 50% wind and solar is heavily rooted in fears of catastrophic manmade climate change. But the alleged crisis has no basis in observed evidence.

It has nothing to do with ending the attempts to scam the public via global warming or green energy.

The post simply states one more giant mistake by those adhering to and advancing the gambit.


"Free market capitalists and conservatives should be rooting for technological innovation - as they usually do - not hoping against it."
Exactly what I do.....

But I won't drink the Kool-Aid.


Soooo.....how many Hula Hoops did you buy.....you know, to support capitalism?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals don't need no Fourteenth Amendment.....they have Orwell:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Irrelevant sloganeering,

It might appeal to the hyperpartisans that post here, but it isn't a serious solution.

It's educated folks it is directed to......not you.

But you started the OP.

In many countries, green energy is the most economical form of power production.

It has nothing to do with Obama and the Democratic party.

It has everything to do with capitalism and adherents of free markets.

Free market capitalists and conservatives should be rooting for technological innovation - as they usually do - not hoping against it.

"It has nothing to do with Obama and the Democratic party."

You couldn't be more wrong.
You could try to be, but you wouldn't be successful.


Develop renewable energy and efficient vehicles
Harnessing American ingenuity to create renewable energy. Our plan begins with commonsense investments to harness the natural world around us-the sun, wind, water, geothermal and biomass sources, and a rich array of crops-to create a new generation of affordable energy for the 21st century. We support tax credits for private sector investment in clean, renewable sources of energy, and we will make ethanol credits work better for farmers. Creating the energy-efficient vehicles of tomorrow. We support improving fuel standards, and because of the challenges this poses, we will offer needed incentives for consumers to buy efficient vehicles, and for manufacturers to build them. We are also committed to developing hydrogen as a clean, reliable domestic source of energy. Our economy cannot convert to hydrogen overnight, so we will fund research to overcome the obstacles to hydrogen fuel and continue our other efforts to achieve energy independence.Source: The Democratic Platform for America, p.14-15 , Jul 10, 2004

 

[Old Rocks]

India’s coal-power plant developers are growing more pessimistic about their projects after a plunge in the cost of electricity from solar panels improved the economics of renewable energy.

After a string of federal auctions, solar is suddenly the cheapest source of electricity in India. That’s darkening the outlook for the coal-fired power industry as projects struggle to find customers or face cancellation amid a glut of capacity.

“The crashing solar tariffs are creating a mental block for distribution companies and holding them back from signing long-term purchase agreements with conventional power producers,” said T. Adi Babu, chief operating officer for finance at Lanco Infratech Ltd., an Indian power producer. “A couple of years back, when people talked of solar reaching grid parity, people were skeptical. Now the solar tariffs have gone well below that. It is definitely making conventional players sit up and take notice.”

Cheaper Solar in India Prompts Rethink for Coal Projects

China, India, and many third world nations are investing in wind and solar. No need for railroads to transport the coal, or pipelines for natural gas. Just install and build the grid. As Toro states, capitalism at work.

 

[Old Rocks]

Liberals don't need no Fourteenth Amendment.....they have Orwell:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Irrelevant sloganeering,

It might appeal to the hyperpartisans that post here, but it isn't a serious solution.

It's educated folks it is directed to......not you.

But you started the OP.

In many countries, green energy is the most economical form of power production.

It has nothing to do with Obama and the Democratic party.

It has everything to do with capitalism and adherents of free markets.

Free market capitalists and conservatives should be rooting for technological innovation - as they usually do - not hoping against it.

"It has nothing to do with Obama and the Democratic party."

You couldn't be more wrong.
You could try to be, but you wouldn't be successful.


Develop renewable energy and efficient vehicles
Harnessing American ingenuity to create renewable energy. Our plan begins with commonsense investments to harness the natural world around us-the sun, wind, water, geothermal and biomass sources, and a rich array of crops-to create a new generation of affordable energy for the 21st century. We support tax credits for private sector investment in clean, renewable sources of energy, and we will make ethanol credits work better for farmers. Creating the energy-efficient vehicles of tomorrow. We support improving fuel standards, and because of the challenges this poses, we will offer needed incentives for consumers to buy efficient vehicles, and for manufacturers to build them. We are also committed to developing hydrogen as a clean, reliable domestic source of energy. Our economy cannot convert to hydrogen overnight, so we will fund research to overcome the obstacles to hydrogen fuel and continue our other efforts to achieve energy independence.Source: The Democratic Platform for America, p.14-15 , Jul 10, 2004

So battery technology beat the fuel cell, capitalism at work. And we now have EV's from almost every auto company in the world. Capitalism at work. But for those that kiss Russian ass, like PC, and want the government to mandate that we us fossil fuels, capitalism is an anathema.

 

[miketx]

Liberals don't need no Fourteenth Amendment.....they have Orwell:
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Irrelevant sloganeering,

It might appeal to the hyperpartisans that post here, but it isn't a serious solution.

It's educated folks it is directed to......not you.

But you started the OP.

In many countries, green energy is the most economical form of power production.

It has nothing to do with Obama and the Democratic party.

It has everything to do with capitalism and adherents of free markets.

Free market capitalists and conservatives should be rooting for technological innovation - as they usually do - not hoping against it.

"It has nothing to do with Obama and the Democratic party."

You couldn't be more wrong.
You could try to be, but you wouldn't be successful.


Develop renewable energy and efficient vehicles
Harnessing American ingenuity to create renewable energy. Our plan begins with commonsense investments to harness the natural world around us-the sun, wind, water, geothermal and biomass sources, and a rich array of crops-to create a new generation of affordable energy for the 21st century. We support tax credits for private sector investment in clean, renewable sources of energy, and we will make ethanol credits work better for farmers. Creating the energy-efficient vehicles of tomorrow. We support improving fuel standards, and because of the challenges this poses, we will offer needed incentives for consumers to buy efficient vehicles, and for manufacturers to build them. We are also committed to developing hydrogen as a clean, reliable domestic source of energy. Our economy cannot convert to hydrogen overnight, so we will fund research to overcome the obstacles to hydrogen fuel and continue our other efforts to achieve energy independence.Source: The Democratic Platform for America, p.14-15 , Jul 10, 2004

So battery technology beat the fuel cell, capitalism at work. And we now have EV's from almost every auto company in the world. Capitalism at work. But for those that kiss Russian ass, like PC, and want the government to mandate that we us fossil fuels, capitalism is an anathema.

But not knowing how cars work, let alone electric cars, yet you pretend to know something about it. Why is that? Must be true what Reagan about liberals knowing so much that isn't so.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The political right is absolutely stupid.

(Other than Todd, who is a realistic capitalist.)

These jobs aren't coming back.

Ever.

We bought 120,000 acres of timberland last year.

After we bought it, I went to the land and watched all the mechanization chop down the trees and put them on the carts.

There were eight people working on the land. Thirty years ago, there would have been 200.

Today, the Luddite political right is complaining in the same way the Luddite political left did 40 years ago.

But they are too dumb and clueless to know what's going on.

Wyoming coal mines rehired over 50% of their miners this year.. Your lying out of your ass hole..