Here’s how right-wing Christians share the blame for the massacre in Orlando

[Yousaidwhat]

May the American people wake up and judge them as the same mentality as radical Islam

Right wing Christians must recognize the part their anti-gay rhetoric, legislation, hate speech and repeated attacks on the LGBT community played in the slaughter at Pulse Nightclub in Orlando. Yes, the terrorist homophobe who reportedly pledged allegiance to ISIL before he repeatedly pulled the trigger deserves all our anger and outrage. We will hear plenty about his radicalized religious beliefs in the coming days, but that is likely all the religious analysis we will hear in the media. But, we cannot let religious ideologues in the far-right Christian camp off the hook. Steven Anderson is not an anomaly. America has been painstakingly codifying beliefs he expressed into law. Polished politicians blunt the edges of Anderson’s words though the language of legislation but the hate and fear remains.

They will claim the assertion they have any role in the massacre as an attack on their religion – much like the consistent and well-orchestrated “war on Christmas” we heathens rage every year. They will tell you that their prayers are enough to overcome this act of terror. They will tell you Jesus wants you to arm yourself. “Get your guns before Obama takes them.” They will tell you this is about radicalized Islamist terrorists. They will whistle away the notion that guns or gays had anything to do with this tragedy.




Here’s how right-wing Christians share the blame for the massacre in Orlando

homophobe?

Seen several news items claiming he, himself, was gay.

Yea and see the hate and anger being a closeted Muslim creates? And he may have done it to prove his worthiness in the Muslim community. Instead of just killing himself he went out a martyr. Or though. I hope he's looking up and sees we are learning he was a self hating gay. His father, Pat Robertson, Republicans all contribute to homophobia

He's a martyr.

He gets his 72 virgins.

They just might be 72 gay virgins, though.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

You should be ashamed, own this, it's one of yours. Wake the hell up

We didn't make him a self loathing gay you did

Nope. He made himself a self loathing gay.

 

[bodecea]

The only blame goes to the Islamist who slaughtered them, and to Obama who permitted him to walk the streets.

President Obama permitted him to walk the streets? What do you mean by that? What reason would there have been to lock him up prior to this?

 

[bodecea]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

Funny thing is....That's what the Pulse shooter would believe.

 

[Auld Phart]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

You should be ashamed, own this, it's one of yours. Wake the hell up

We didn't make him a self loathing gay you did

We didn't make him a self loathing gay you did

Right

Because HIS religion is so favorable towards gays.

 

[Mac1958]

May the American people wake up and judge them as the same mentality as radical Islam

So many examples of my point, so little time.

The Regressive Left and Islam -- What is happening here?
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[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

 

[bodecea]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

Bi-Catfish should be nervous...seeing what being in the closet did to that shooter.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

Bi-Catfish should be nervous...seeing what being in the closet did to that shooter.

Ahhh shaddup ya hairy back asshole

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

Bi-Catfish should be nervous...seeing what being in the closet did to that shooter.

He wasn't in the closet. His former classmates knew, his ex-wife knew, his dad knew(ex-wife heard him call Omar a fag), he had gay dating apps on his phone, he frequented Pulse.

Sounds like he was out to me.

 

[Papageorgio]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

You should be ashamed, own this, it's one of yours. Wake the hell up

We didn't make him a self loathing gay you did

He was gay big deal, it was his Islamic religion that he felt in conflict with. The guy was used by ISIS for a terrorist attack.

You can't make anyone, anything. There is personal responsibility. The guy was on an FBI watch list, not because he was gay, it was because of his association with ISIS and his mental instability.

 

[WillowTree]

Obammie is more pissed with Trump than he is with the terrorists!

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

You should be ashamed, own this, it's one of yours. Wake the hell up

We didn't make him a self loathing gay you did

He was gay big deal, it was his Islamic religion that he felt in conflict with. The guy was used by ISIS for a terrorist attack.

You can't make anyone, anything. There is personal responsibility. The guy was on an FBI watch list, not because he was gay, it was because of his association with ISIS and his mental instability.

Muhammad was quite possibly a tranny too, did you know that? Yeah, he liked to wear Aisha's clothing. Look it up.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Check it out!

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From Mishkat Al Masabih, Volume II

Book XXVI- Fitan.

Chapter XXXVIII, “The Fine Qualities of the Prophet’s Wives.”


She told that the people used to choose: ‘A’isha’s day to bring their gifts, seeking thereby to please God’s messenger. She said that God’s messenger’s wives were in two parties, one including ‘A’isha, Hafsa, Safiya, and Sauda, and the other including UmmSalama and the rest of God’s messenger’s wives. Umm Salama’s party spoke to her telling her to ask God’s messenger to say to the people, “If anyone wishes to make a present to God’s messenger, let him present it to him wherever he happens to be.” She did so and he replied, “Do not annoy me regarding ‘A’isha, for inspiration has not come to me when I was in any WOMAN’S GARMENT but ‘A’isha’s.”

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Muhammad was the first non-binary transfag.

 

[Coyote]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

Yeah. It's all right wing conservative Christian rhetoric. I never thought Westboro would have such an influence in the Middle East. You are just so smart you and guno for figuring it out that everything ISIS does is because Christians make them do it.

This is why Obama will never say "radical Islam" because he knows like you and guno that this all goes back to the Crusades and ISIS is not responsible for their actions at all. It's all about radical Christianity.

Obviously ISIS has been getting secret messages from Reverend Phelps. OMG sealybobo you are right!!!!!!!!!!!! Look what the Christians are making ISIS do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they aren't the only killers. You act like Muslims and Arabs are the only ones who kill

They seem to think Christians don't commit violence on gays. World wide attitudes on homosexuality bely that belief.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Guno, you don't have to keep providing evidence that you are retarded son. We know.

 

[WinterBorn]

May the American people wake up and judge them as the same mentality as radical Islam

Right wing Christians must recognize the part their anti-gay rhetoric, legislation, hate speech and repeated attacks on the LGBT community played in the slaughter at Pulse Nightclub in Orlando. Yes, the terrorist homophobe who reportedly pledged allegiance to ISIL before he repeatedly pulled the trigger deserves all our anger and outrage. We will hear plenty about his radicalized religious beliefs in the coming days, but that is likely all the religious analysis we will hear in the media. But, we cannot let religious ideologues in the far-right Christian camp off the hook. Steven Anderson is not an anomaly. America has been painstakingly codifying beliefs he expressed into law. Polished politicians blunt the edges of Anderson’s words though the language of legislation but the hate and fear remains.

They will claim the assertion they have any role in the massacre as an attack on their religion – much like the consistent and well-orchestrated “war on Christmas” we heathens rage every year. They will tell you that their prayers are enough to overcome this act of terror. They will tell you Jesus wants you to arm yourself. “Get your guns before Obama takes them.” They will tell you this is about radicalized Islamist terrorists. They will whistle away the notion that guns or gays had anything to do with this tragedy.




Here’s how right-wing Christians share the blame for the massacre in Orlando

So when a Muslim slaughters 50+ gay people, you blame the Christians? Because they spew hatred?

Ok. I will accept that, on one condition. I have not seen anyone post as many anti-Christian threads as you. Do you take responsibility for church shootings?

 

[tinydancer]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

Yeah. It's all right wing conservative Christian rhetoric. I never thought Westboro would have such an influence in the Middle East. You are just so smart you and guno for figuring it out that everything ISIS does is because Christians make them do it.

This is why Obama will never say "radical Islam" because he knows like you and guno that this all goes back to the Crusades and ISIS is not responsible for their actions at all. It's all about radical Christianity.

Obviously ISIS has been getting secret messages from Reverend Phelps. OMG sealybobo you are right!!!!!!!!!!!! Look what the Christians are making ISIS do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they aren't the only killers. You act like Muslims and Arabs are the only ones who kill

I believe statistically when it comes to the LGBT community they are mostly at physical risk from zealots within the Muslim community. This is just a fact. And this is taking place in far too many countries.

For years I've been on boards warning that the harassment and physical assaults against gays in Europe would inevitably and sadly find its way to our shores. I have never understood why the LGBT community in the Americas has not been more vocal in condemning these atrocities.

I've been involved now for over two decades now working for women's rights in the ME particularly Afghanistan and naturally the scope of my activism has spread to human rights all thru the ME, Europe and now the Americas.

I've always been pro Muslim and Anti radical Islam. I lived in Toronto for many a year and it's like a mini United Nations and I probably have known and worked with more Muslims personally than probably most on this board.

And they cannot nor should they be lumped into "one" religious nation because just like Christians Muslims come from all over the world with their own sets of moral and ethical standards depending on which country they have immigrated from.

Now that being said, we must not allow what has happened in Europe to occur here.

When we excuse violent acts by radical extremists by trying to blame everything and anything else rather that putting the full blame right where it belongs, on the extremist we hurt the Muslim community itself.

How on earth does an Imam get the moderate message out when everyone else and their mother are hogging the limelight in the aftermath of a terror attack? Politicians and entertainers have been sucking up the air for days. Sucking up all the headlines. Trying to blame everyone but Omar.

Blaming every one and everything else rather than the radicalized terrorist. It's a pity that so many people feel the need from Obama, Clinton, Kerry <fill in the blank anti gun politician>,Lady Gaga to Colbert to Kim Kardashian to hog the spotlight calling for peace love and understanding and of course gun control and a moderate Imam can't fight his way to a microphone because these attention whores take up all the space on page one.

Sadly the media is to blame as well for allowing these people to take over page one. The moderate message of Islam if lucky at all will be found on page C52. Pity. I don't know how we correct this so that the general population could understand that moderate Muslims do condemn the acts of radical Islam. And yes Muslims do understand and fear radical Islam. Mostly they are the victims of extremism.

They just can't get to the microphone. Their voices aren't being heard.

Here's an FYI. Gay bashing in the Netherlands is hitting nightmarish levels.

Gay-bashers thrive in modern-day Netherlands

By Ezra Levant, QMI Agency

"If you think Amsterdam is the gay capital of Europe, you're half-right, but 10 years out of date. Today it's the gay-bashing capital of Europe.

Because Amsterdam isn't just gay. Now it's Muslim, too. A million Moroccans and Turks have immigrated to the Netherlands, and sharia law rules the streets.

If you doubt it, then you haven't been paying attention. Actually, that's not fair. Gay-bashing is front-page news only when it's committed by a straight, white male.

The media is terribly uncomfortable writing about gay-bashing by minorities. It's the same reason why Canadian feminists are so eerily quiet about honour killings of Muslim girls.

According to an "offender study" by the University of Amsterdam, there were 201 reports of anti-gay violence in that city in 2007 - and researchers believe for every reported case there are as many as 25 unreported ones. Two thirds of the predators are Muslim youths.

The violence couldn't be more brazen. It's not in the back alleys in the dark, it's in the heart of the city, often in broad daylight. It's a direct dare to the Dutch government to show who rules the streets.

In 2008, 10 Muslim youths broke into a fashion show, dragged gay model Michael du Pree off the stage and beat him bloody. Last month, several lesbians were hit by beer bottles thrown at their heads as they marched in a parade of thousands to protest violence against gays. There's a gay community centre in Amsterdam - you'd think that would be safe. Wrong. It's a target, with home-invasion style beatings.

No one is immune. Last year Hugo Braakhuis, the founder of Amdsterdam's gay pride parade, was attacked."

More at link.

Gay-bashers thrive in modern-day Netherlands

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

The left owns this one lock, stock and barrel

You should be ashamed you pretend you don't understand your anti gay rhetoric creates the anamosity. You're responsible personally. Lol

Yeah. It's all right wing conservative Christian rhetoric. I never thought Westboro would have such an influence in the Middle East. You are just so smart you and guno for figuring it out that everything ISIS does is because Christians make them do it.

This is why Obama will never say "radical Islam" because he knows like you and guno that this all goes back to the Crusades and ISIS is not responsible for their actions at all. It's all about radical Christianity.

Obviously ISIS has been getting secret messages from Reverend Phelps. OMG sealybobo you are right!!!!!!!!!!!! Look what the Christians are making ISIS do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they aren't the only killers. You act like Muslims and Arabs are the only ones who kill

They seem to think Christians don't commit violence on gays. World wide attitudes on homosexuality bely that belief.

Show us the stats.