Holy crap, this is really happening.

[zeke]

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In 2010 we saw the emergence of the Tea Party and its strong influence in specific geographic areas which led to a ton of congressional victories. It was interesting to see, and a few people wondered out loud whether it was possible for the Tea Party and the GOP to co-exist. At that point, the two were essentially separate.

By 2012 the Tea Party had essentially been folded into the GOP, and an uneasy relationship had developed between the Tea Party, the "establishment" Republicans, and the existing Republican office-holders who moved toward the Tea Party. The electoral results were mixed, at best. At that time we wondered which group was going to win control of the party.

The "final battle" always seemed down the road, in the future, something for guessing and predictions. Some wondered out loud if the party would literally split apart, and that theory, as I recall, was usually rejected by conservatives out of hand. Their thought appeared to be that one side would "win", and that the other side would somehow capitulate.

Well gang, here we are. This party is dividing before our eyes, with open revolt against Boehner; Republicans are attacking each other with the same energy they use on Democrats; no one is capitulating; and the Dems are smiling to themselves. Every headline is "Boehner doesn't have the votes", and I'm hearing more and more that he'll have to bow down before Nancy Pelosi before this thing is over.

This party really may be splitting up. Right now, before our eyes. No more theory.

Any guesses as to what the next five years holds for this party?

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Defeat after defeat after defeat. Most Americans (and more every day) now see that the Tbaggers bring absolutely nothing to the table needed to run a country like ours. Nothing. They gotta go. Or at least be so marginalized that they can't continue to do so much harm.

Can't do much? Apparently nothing happens in Washington unless we agree. You fools will never understand that the TEA PARTY represents the silent majority in our country.

You are nuts. The Teabaggers represent a bunch of right wing whack jobs in gerrymandered voting districts. That's all they represent.

 

[deltex1]

I am worried less about the damage to the repub party than to the damage to the republic.

 

[HUGGY]

Actually, the ideals of the TP are far more suitable to rebuilding a broken America than anything possibly coming out of main stream GOP or the donkey party.

You actually think the average American trusts the teabaggers to do anything usefull for the country? You people are delusional. You are dangerous. You are more terrorist than Al Qaida.

 

[martybegan]

Defeat after defeat after defeat. Most Americans (and more every day) now see that the Tbaggers bring absolutely nothing to the table needed to run a country like ours. Nothing. They gotta go. Or at least be so marginalized that they can't continue to do so much harm.

Can't do much? Apparently nothing happens in Washington unless we agree. You fools will never understand that the TEA PARTY represents the silent majority in our country.

You are nuts. The Teabaggers represent a bunch of right wing whack jobs in gerrymandered voting districts. That's all they represent.

Keep thinking that while you keep having the government spend itself into oblivion.

The fact is the tea party is far more in line with the original concept of our federal government than any of you progressive statist wanna be oligarchs.

 

[jon_berzerk]

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In 2010 we saw the emergence of the Tea Party and its strong influence in specific geographic areas which led to a ton of congressional victories. It was interesting to see, and a few people wondered out loud whether it was possible for the Tea Party and the GOP to co-exist. At that point, the two were essentially separate.

By 2012 the Tea Party had essentially been folded into the GOP, and an uneasy relationship had developed between the Tea Party, the "establishment" Republicans, and the existing Republican office-holders who moved toward the Tea Party. The electoral results were mixed, at best. At that time we wondered which group was going to win control of the party.

The "final battle" always seemed down the road, in the future, something for guessing and predictions. Some wondered out loud if the party would literally split apart, and that theory, as I recall, was usually rejected by conservatives out of hand. Their thought appeared to be that one side would "win", and that the other side would somehow capitulate.

Well gang, here we are. This party is dividing before our eyes, with open revolt against Boehner; Republicans are attacking each other with the same energy they use on Democrats; no one is capitulating; and the Dems are smiling to themselves. Every headline is "Boehner doesn't have the votes", and I'm hearing more and more that he'll have to bow down before Nancy Pelosi before this thing is over.

This party really may be splitting up. Right now, before our eyes. No more theory.

Any guesses as to what the next five years holds for this party?

.

people are fed up with the establishment repubs

many will get primaried

some will win that battle some will not

we will continue to weed them out

if they want to be lefties

the establishment repubs need to switch parties

 

[cutter]

Defeat after defeat after defeat. Most Americans (and more every day) now see that the Tbaggers bring absolutely nothing to the table needed to run a country like ours. Nothing. They gotta go. Or at least be so marginalized that they can't continue to do so much harm.

Can't do much? Apparently nothing happens in Washington unless we agree. You fools will never understand that the TEA PARTY represents the silent majority in our country.

You are nuts. The Teabaggers represent a bunch of right wing whack jobs in gerrymandered voting districts. That's all they represent.

For such a small inconsequential group we sure seem to make Washington come to a halt if they are unwilling to do the right thing.

 

[Mac1958]

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In 2010 we saw the emergence of the Tea Party and its strong influence in specific geographic areas which led to a ton of congressional victories. It was interesting to see, and a few people wondered out loud whether it was possible for the Tea Party and the GOP to co-exist. At that point, the two were essentially separate.

By 2012 the Tea Party had essentially been folded into the GOP, and an uneasy relationship had developed between the Tea Party, the "establishment" Republicans, and the existing Republican office-holders who moved toward the Tea Party. The electoral results were mixed, at best. At that time we wondered which group was going to win control of the party.

The "final battle" always seemed down the road, in the future, something for guessing and predictions. Some wondered out loud if the party would literally split apart, and that theory, as I recall, was usually rejected by conservatives out of hand. Their thought appeared to be that one side would "win", and that the other side would somehow capitulate.

Well gang, here we are. This party is dividing before our eyes, with open revolt against Boehner; Republicans are attacking each other with the same energy they use on Democrats; no one is capitulating; and the Dems are smiling to themselves. Every headline is "Boehner doesn't have the votes", and I'm hearing more and more that he'll have to bow down before Nancy Pelosi before this thing is over.

This party really may be splitting up. Right now, before our eyes. No more theory.

Any guesses as to what the next five years holds for this party?

.

people are fed up with the establishment repubs

many will get primaried

some will win that battle some will not

we will continue to weed them out

if they want to be lefties

the establishment repubs need to switch parties

Okay then, serious question:

You feel you'll be able to win national elections and gain national majorities this way?

.

 

[martybegan]

Can't do much? Apparently nothing happens in Washington unless we agree. You fools will never understand that the TEA PARTY represents the silent majority in our country.

You are nuts. The Teabaggers represent a bunch of right wing whack jobs in gerrymandered voting districts. That's all they represent.

For such a small inconsequential group we sure seem to make Washington come to a halt if they are unwilling to do the right thing.

They just can't fathom that there are people that do not want an overpowering federal government spending money it doesnt have on programs it was never intended to operate.

They think that because they want the warm embrace of a nanny state government telling them how to live, what to think, and what to do that EVERYONE else must want the same thing, and those who don't are obviously evil, stupid, and CAN'T be the majority of people.

 

[zeke]

Can't do much? Apparently nothing happens in Washington unless we agree. You fools will never understand that the TEA PARTY represents the silent majority in our country.

You are nuts. The Teabaggers represent a bunch of right wing whack jobs in gerrymandered voting districts. That's all they represent.

For such a small inconsequential group we sure seem to make Washington come to a halt if they are unwilling to do the right thing.

This is true. But what are the reasons behind their power?

One is that the Speaker of the House is scared to lose his job.
Two; the more sensible repubs are afraid they would lose their jobs if they stood up for whats right.

Those gerrymandered voting districts are coming back to bite Repubs in the ass.

When they are able to negate any power the Speaker of the House has, then they certainly are not an inconsequential group to the Republican party. Or to the rest of us.

 

[martybegan]

You are nuts. The Teabaggers represent a bunch of right wing whack jobs in gerrymandered voting districts. That's all they represent.

For such a small inconsequential group we sure seem to make Washington come to a halt if they are unwilling to do the right thing.

This is true. But what are the reasons behind their power?

One is that the Speaker of the House is scared to lose his job.
Two; the more sensible repubs are afraid they would lose their jobs if they stood up for whats right.

Those gerrymandered voting districts are coming back to bite Repubs in the ass.

When they are able to negate any power the Speaker of the House has, then they certainly are not an inconsequential group to the Republican party. Or to the rest of us.

Considering both sides gerrymander your compaint is typical partisan wallowing.

Also, you have to remember that to be able to control redistrcting, you have to control the State in question. So somehow republicans took over agains the will of the people in the States in question?

Considering your base comes from paid off urban (often racially gerrymandered) districts awash in local democratic goodies I would be careful spouting on and on about gerrymandering.

 

[cutter]

Actually, the ideals of the TP are far more suitable to rebuilding a broken America than anything possibly coming out of main stream GOP or the donkey party.

You actually think the average American trusts the teabaggers to do anything usefull for the country? You people are delusional. You are dangerous. You are more terrorist than Al Qaida.

More progressive hate speech. If you don;t agree call them a terrorist.
Progressives= Assholes one and all

 

[jon_berzerk]

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In 2010 we saw the emergence of the Tea Party and its strong influence in specific geographic areas which led to a ton of congressional victories. It was interesting to see, and a few people wondered out loud whether it was possible for the Tea Party and the GOP to co-exist. At that point, the two were essentially separate.

By 2012 the Tea Party had essentially been folded into the GOP, and an uneasy relationship had developed between the Tea Party, the "establishment" Republicans, and the existing Republican office-holders who moved toward the Tea Party. The electoral results were mixed, at best. At that time we wondered which group was going to win control of the party.

The "final battle" always seemed down the road, in the future, something for guessing and predictions. Some wondered out loud if the party would literally split apart, and that theory, as I recall, was usually rejected by conservatives out of hand. Their thought appeared to be that one side would "win", and that the other side would somehow capitulate.

Well gang, here we are. This party is dividing before our eyes, with open revolt against Boehner; Republicans are attacking each other with the same energy they use on Democrats; no one is capitulating; and the Dems are smiling to themselves. Every headline is "Boehner doesn't have the votes", and I'm hearing more and more that he'll have to bow down before Nancy Pelosi before this thing is over.

This party really may be splitting up. Right now, before our eyes. No more theory.

Any guesses as to what the next five years holds for this party?

.

people are fed up with the establishment repubs

many will get primaried

some will win that battle some will not

we will continue to weed them out

if they want to be lefties

the establishment repubs need to switch parties

Okay then, serious question:

You feel you'll be able to win national elections and gain national majorities this way?

.

yes

things have got to change

what good are they now

more importantly

states and local ranks are becoming more conservative

and it is working its way up the tree

 

[Stephanie]

When is Boehner going to show some balls and tell the TeaTards to stick it?

When are REAL Republicans going to take back their party

when are you going to call for that from the Democrat Party?
they need to kick out half their radicals in the party, don't you think?

 

[Seawytch]

You are nuts. The Teabaggers represent a bunch of right wing whack jobs in gerrymandered voting districts. That's all they represent.

For such a small inconsequential group we sure seem to make Washington come to a halt if they are unwilling to do the right thing.

This is true. But what are the reasons behind their power?

One is that the Speaker of the House is scared to lose his job.
Two; the more sensible repubs are afraid they would lose their jobs if they stood up for whats right.

Those gerrymandered voting districts are coming back to bite Repubs in the ass.

When they are able to negate any power the Speaker of the House has, then they certainly are not an inconsequential group to the Republican party. Or to the rest of us.

Actually, it's going to be the non Gerrymandered Districts that are going to "get" them. Not all Rethugs are in "safe" Districts. Those in the swing states are going to lose their job over this shutdown debacle they engineered...and could turn the House back to Dems.

 

[Stephanie]

do we ever see these types of thread on the Democrat party?

NO, because they all walk in LOCKSTEP with each other and THE PARTY..that to me is MORE SCARY than anything..

But the Tea Party is the new BOOGEYMAN in their lives

 

[cutter]

Shutting down the government and defaulting on our debt are things you feel are suitable for rebuilding our country? How's that work?

Drastic measures for drastic times. I'm one that believes NO more borrowing, suck it up and live within our means. And stop saying shutting down the government. It's 17%, and obviously a 17% we could do without. Which proves the point that we CAN cut spending. We just need some with balls that can take the heat. Enter one, Ted Cruz! Oh, and the first time government "shutdown", Cruz was prolly in first grade.

Ok I will play along and pretend to agree. Now, just go ahead and explain WHAT to cut, how many jobs will be lost, how much the unemployment rate will rise and what kind of interest rates we will see after the default.

How much will consumer spending decline when all these government jobs are eliminated and just what this will do positive for people like me.

What will the crash in the markets cost me and how much will my property values decline.

If you can answer all of those questions and the answers make sense, and the decline in jobs and wages are made up else where, maybe you are on to something.

But no one else has been able to answer these questions. They just ignore them. Will you do the same?

A government job is just a drag on the economy. Any job in the private sector creates income in the form of taxes. A government job is a waste of tax dollar and doesn't add $1. to the tax base. It's just a draw on funds and increases taxes.

 

[martybegan]

For such a small inconsequential group we sure seem to make Washington come to a halt if they are unwilling to do the right thing.

This is true. But what are the reasons behind their power?

One is that the Speaker of the House is scared to lose his job.
Two; the more sensible repubs are afraid they would lose their jobs if they stood up for whats right.

Those gerrymandered voting districts are coming back to bite Repubs in the ass.

When they are able to negate any power the Speaker of the House has, then they certainly are not an inconsequential group to the Republican party. Or to the rest of us.

Actually, it's going to be the non Gerrymandered Districts that are going to "get" them. Not all Rethugs are in "safe" Districts. Those in the swing states are going to lose their job over this shutdown debacle they engineered...and could turn the House back to Dems.

Keep thinking suga plum thoughts and happy happy dreams. Of course you have the MSM making any republican out to the boogeyman, so you are obviously going after the low information voters you are already buying off with governmental goodies.

 

[zeke]

Drastic measures for drastic times. I'm one that believes NO more borrowing, suck it up and live within our means. And stop saying shutting down the government. It's 17%, and obviously a 17% we could do without. Which proves the point that we CAN cut spending. We just need some with balls that can take the heat. Enter one, Ted Cruz! Oh, and the first time government "shutdown", Cruz was prolly in first grade.

Ok I will play along and pretend to agree. Now, just go ahead and explain WHAT to cut, how many jobs will be lost, how much the unemployment rate will rise and what kind of interest rates we will see after the default.

How much will consumer spending decline when all these government jobs are eliminated and just what this will do positive for people like me.

What will the crash in the markets cost me and how much will my property values decline.

If you can answer all of those questions and the answers make sense, and the decline in jobs and wages are made up else where, maybe you are on to something.

But no one else has been able to answer these questions. They just ignore them. Will you do the same?

A government job is just a drag on the economy. Any job in the private sector creates income in the form of taxes. A government job is a waste of tax dollar and doesn't add $1. to the tax base. It's just a draw on funds and increases taxes.

Was that your best effort at answering legitimate questions? Good god no wonder you folks are such losers. You are stupid.

 

[deltex1]

Actually, the ideals of the TP are far more suitable to rebuilding a broken America than anything possibly coming out of main stream GOP or the donkey party.

You actually think the average American trusts the teabaggers to do anything usefull for the country? You people are delusional. You are dangerous. You are more terrorist than Al Qaida.

You are welcome to Harry and Nancy.....I'll take Ted and Marco and Rand.

 

[Seawytch]

This is true. But what are the reasons behind their power?

One is that the Speaker of the House is scared to lose his job.
Two; the more sensible repubs are afraid they would lose their jobs if they stood up for whats right.

Those gerrymandered voting districts are coming back to bite Repubs in the ass.

When they are able to negate any power the Speaker of the House has, then they certainly are not an inconsequential group to the Republican party. Or to the rest of us.

Actually, it's going to be the non Gerrymandered Districts that are going to "get" them. Not all Rethugs are in "safe" Districts. Those in the swing states are going to lose their job over this shutdown debacle they engineered...and could turn the House back to Dems.

Keep thinking suga plum thoughts and happy happy dreams. Of course you have the MSM making any republican out to the boogeyman, so you are obviously going after the low information voters you are already buying off with governmental goodies.

Actually, the MSM has done a crappy job with their continued need to "show both sides". It's where the MSM fails. They are so afraid of some dickwad calling them the liberal media that they abandon all attempts at journalism in order to be "fair and balanced".

Well, it's not fair...facts have a liberal bias and it IS all the Republicans fault. No amount of "we'll have to leave it there" is going to change that.