Holy crap, this is really happening.

When is Boehner going to show some balls and tell the TeaTards to stick it?

When are REAL Republicans going to take back their party

But--who are the REAL republicans?

The moderates, or the conservatives?

if your a conservative, then your conservative at the end of the day. They may be more some more tory then others.

In end though i think both liberals and conservatives are good people who care about their views.



the problem we have today is that the dems and obama are totally intolerant of any dissenting views, they want to dictate their progressive agenda and "fundamentally change" the USA.

Half or more of americans do not want obama's version of "fundamental change".
 
For such a small inconsequential group we sure seem to make Washington come to a halt if they are unwilling to do the right thing.

A spoiled 5 year old can ruin the evening for a whole room full of mature adults in a restaurant. And a handful of religious zealots killed 3000 Americans and sent the country into a tailspin. You sure you're proud of your small inconsequential group?

Well put

We have a small group of immature spoiled 5 year olds throwing a tantrum in public. The supposed adults within the GOP sheepishly smile and ask what they can do about it?

oh boy:lol::lol::lol:
you got an atta boy for that...your post sounded like a five year old...jeeewhiz
you're on a roll with your shining wisdom
 
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But--who are the REAL republicans?

The moderates, or the conservatives?

if your a conservative, then your conservative at the end of the day. They may be more some more tory then others.

In end though i think both liberals and conservatives are good people who care about their views.



the problem we have today is that the dems and obama are totally intolerant of any dissenting views, they want to dictate their progressive agenda and "fundamentally change" the USA.

Half or more of americans do not want obama's version of "fundamental change".

You are right.

Much more than half of the citizenry do not want Obama concept of change--unfortunately, half of those are also against conservatives ideas of what America should be.

The two camps have moderates that they beat into their lines. That is where the political problem begin--not enough choice in American politics
 
But--who are the REAL republicans?

The moderates, or the conservatives?

if your a conservative, then your conservative at the end of the day. They may be more some more tory then others.

In end though i think both liberals and conservatives are good people who care about their views.



the problem we have today is that the dems and obama are totally intolerant of any dissenting views, they want to dictate their progressive agenda and "fundamentally change" the USA.

Half or more of americans do not want obama's version of "fundamental change".

The main problem is they are dictating this progressive agenda at the Federal Level. We are seeing the results of it being implemented at the state and local level, where once they push past a certain point, the providers start moving away, leaving nothing but the takers. They have realized they need to do this at the national level, as leaving a country is far more effort than just moving from state to state or city to city.

If thier concepts work so so well, shouldnt cities where progressives have ruled for decades be flourishing? Shouldnt States that have been blue for decades be empires of growth, happiness, peace and fluffy bunnies frolicing under the sun?
 
if your a conservative, then your conservative at the end of the day. They may be more some more tory then others.

In end though i think both liberals and conservatives are good people who care about their views.



the problem we have today is that the dems and obama are totally intolerant of any dissenting views, they want to dictate their progressive agenda and "fundamentally change" the USA.

Half or more of americans do not want obama's version of "fundamental change".

You are right.

Much more than half of the citizenry do not want Obama concept of change--unfortunately, half of those are also against conservatives ideas of what America should be.

The two camps have moderates that they beat into their lines. That is where the political problem begin--not enough choice in American politics

Ok, so if I understand you, you are saying the one party rule would not be a good thing.
 
the problem we have today is that the dems and obama are totally intolerant of any dissenting views, they want to dictate their progressive agenda and "fundamentally change" the USA.

Half or more of americans do not want obama's version of "fundamental change".

You are right.

Much more than half of the citizenry do not want Obama concept of change--unfortunately, half of those are also against conservatives ideas of what America should be.

The two camps have moderates that they beat into their lines. That is where the political problem begin--not enough choice in American politics

Ok, so if I understand you, you are saying the one party rule would not be a good thing.

One party rule is not much different than a dictatorship

Not very American, if you ask me.
 
One party rule is usually a disaster.

There is no one to tell them no. They do as they wish and the hell with the consequences.
 
Actually, the ideals of the TP are far more suitable to rebuilding a broken America than anything possibly coming out of main stream GOP or the donkey party.

Yep. That is the reason BOTH establishments are fighting Tea Party and smearing it in the LSM as much as they can.

There was a thread here about how big business and Wall Street are short of disciplining the Tea party members - as they do not have influence over it!

And amazingly ( though expectedly) the leftards were all lining up in the defense of the big pockets they are supposedly so against. proving yet again the well known truth that dimocrap party is the party bought and payed for by the big business and Wall Street.
 
Actually, the ideals of the TP are far more suitable to rebuilding a broken America than anything possibly coming out of main stream GOP or the donkey party.

Yep. That is the reason BOTH establishments are fighting Tea Party and smearing it in the LSM as much as they can.

There was a thread here about how big business and Wall Street are short of disciplining the Tea party members - as they do not have influence over it!

And amazingly ( though expectedly) the leftards were all lining up in the defense of the big pockets they are supposedly so against. proving yet again the well known truth that dimocrap party is the party bought and payed for by the big business and Wall Street.

I thought that we were all welfare queens trying to get free Obama phones....?
 
Actually, the ideals of the TP are far more suitable to rebuilding a broken America than anything possibly coming out of main stream GOP or the donkey party.

Yep. That is the reason BOTH establishments are fighting Tea Party and smearing it in the LSM as much as they can.

There was a thread here about how big business and Wall Street are short of disciplining the Tea party members - as they do not have influence over it!

And amazingly ( though expectedly) the leftards were all lining up in the defense of the big pockets they are supposedly so against. proving yet again the well known truth that dimocrap party is the party bought and payed for by the big business and Wall Street.

Actually, there is a difference between socialists and corporatists--even so, far right economics scare the Beejezus out of both of them!!:tongue:
 
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In 2010 we saw the emergence of the Tea Party and its strong influence in specific geographic areas which led to a ton of congressional victories. It was interesting to see, and a few people wondered out loud whether it was possible for the Tea Party and the GOP to co-exist. At that point, the two were essentially separate.

By 2012 the Tea Party had essentially been folded into the GOP, and an uneasy relationship had developed between the Tea Party, the "establishment" Republicans, and the existing Republican office-holders who moved toward the Tea Party. The electoral results were mixed, at best. At that time we wondered which group was going to win control of the party.

The "final battle" always seemed down the road, in the future, something for guessing and predictions. Some wondered out loud if the party would literally split apart, and that theory, as I recall, was usually rejected by conservatives out of hand. Their thought appeared to be that one side would "win", and that the other side would somehow capitulate.

Well gang, here we are. This party is dividing before our eyes, with open revolt against Boehner; Republicans are attacking each other with the same energy they use on Democrats; no one is capitulating; and the Dems are smiling to themselves. Every headline is "Boehner doesn't have the votes", and I'm hearing more and more that he'll have to bow down before Nancy Pelosi before this thing is over.

This party really may be splitting up. Right now, before our eyes. No more theory.

Any guesses as to what the next five years holds for this party?

.

Defeat after defeat after defeat. Most Americans (and more every day) now see that the Tbaggers bring absolutely nothing to the table needed to run a country like ours. Nothing. They gotta go. Or at least be so marginalized that they can't continue to do so much harm.

Can't do much? Apparently nothing happens in Washington unless we agree. You fools will never understand that the TEA PARTY represents the silent majority in our country.

If they are the "silent majority", why is the Tea Party's approval ratings are so crappy? The best they have done in recent polls is having 31% approval and 54% disapproval. In other polls they have done much worse.
Politics
 
Actually, the ideals of the TP are far more suitable to rebuilding a broken America than anything possibly coming out of main stream GOP or the donkey party.

Yep. That is the reason BOTH establishments are fighting Tea Party and smearing it in the LSM as much as they can.

There was a thread here about how big business and Wall Street are short of disciplining the Tea party members - as they do not have influence over it!

And amazingly ( though expectedly) the leftards were all lining up in the defense of the big pockets they are supposedly so against. proving yet again the well known truth that dimocrap party is the party bought and payed for by the big business and Wall Street.

I thought that we were all welfare queens trying to get free Obama phones....?

you are. and you are also a mouthpiece for the benefit of the big pockets.
nothing new under the sun.
appease the punks with a bone in order to get big moneys( the meat) for the deep pockets which are benefiting the most from the dimocrap policies.

and everything on the backs of the ordinary American taxpayers.
 
Defeat after defeat after defeat. Most Americans (and more every day) now see that the Tbaggers bring absolutely nothing to the table needed to run a country like ours. Nothing. They gotta go. Or at least be so marginalized that they can't continue to do so much harm.

Can't do much? Apparently nothing happens in Washington unless we agree. You fools will never understand that the TEA PARTY represents the silent majority in our country.

If they are the "silent majority", why is the Tea Party's approval ratings are so crappy? The best they have done in recent polls is having 31% approval and 54% disapproval. In other polls they have done much worse.
Politics

Simple, when the other side controls the media, they control the message.
 
Yep. That is the reason BOTH establishments are fighting Tea Party and smearing it in the LSM as much as they can.

There was a thread here about how big business and Wall Street are short of disciplining the Tea party members - as they do not have influence over it!

And amazingly ( though expectedly) the leftards were all lining up in the defense of the big pockets they are supposedly so against. proving yet again the well known truth that dimocrap party is the party bought and payed for by the big business and Wall Street.

I thought that we were all welfare queens trying to get free Obama phones....?

you are. and you are also a mouthpiece for the benefit of the big pockets.
nothing new under the sun.
appease the punks with a bone in order to get big moneys( the meat) for the deep pockets which are benefiting the most from the dimocrap policies.

and everything on the backs of the ordinary American taxpayers.

Well, I demand my free shit, so that I won't have to cash in my IBM stock!
 
Actually, the ideals of the TP are far more suitable to rebuilding a broken America than anything possibly coming out of main stream GOP or the donkey party.

Yep. That is the reason BOTH establishments are fighting Tea Party and smearing it in the LSM as much as they can.

There was a thread here about how big business and Wall Street are short of disciplining the Tea party members - as they do not have influence over it!

And amazingly ( though expectedly) the leftards were all lining up in the defense of the big pockets they are supposedly so against. proving yet again the well known truth that dimocrap party is the party bought and payed for by the big business and Wall Street.

Actually, there is a difference between socialists and corporatists--even so, far right economics scare the Beejezus out of both of them!!:tongue:

the socialism is the far agenda. corporatism is the way to it. nazi Germany is an example of the corporate socialism, while USSR at the same time was already at the stage were all the private property was nationalized.
they are not contradictory, they are the stages of the same process.
And the totalitarian government with a single far left party rule is what keeps it together.

Do you know that October socialist revolution was sponsored by Buffets and Soroses of that time? They thought THEY will rule.
They had to swallow their medicine after the punks got to power :lol:
so would these ones if that happens.
 
One party rule is usually a disaster.

There is no one to tell them no. They do as they wish and the hell with the consequences.

Sounds like what most here want. Repubs andd dems are basically the same and there is no room for a TEA PARTY voice.
 
One party rule is usually a disaster.

There is no one to tell them no. They do as they wish and the hell with the consequences.

Sounds like what most here want. Repubs andd dems are basically the same and there is no room for a TEA PARTY voice.

I won't say "most"

the leftard mouthpieces - yes.

others are either a bit confused or realize perfectly well the dangers of that outcome.

As it looks right now the three party reality is in the making.
 
One party rule is usually a disaster.

There is no one to tell them no. They do as they wish and the hell with the consequences.

Sounds like what most here want. Repubs andd dems are basically the same and there is no room for a TEA PARTY voice.

I won't say "most"

the leftard mouthpieces - yes.

others are either a bit confused or realize perfectly well the dangers of that outcome.

As it looks right now the three party reality is in the making.

Democrats would never lose another election for Senate, Governor or President

:eusa_whistle:
 
Sounds like what most here want. Repubs andd dems are basically the same and there is no room for a TEA PARTY voice.

I won't say "most"

the leftard mouthpieces - yes.

others are either a bit confused or realize perfectly well the dangers of that outcome.

As it looks right now the three party reality is in the making.

Democrats would never lose another election for Senate, Governor or President

:eusa_whistle:

welcome to the USSR. or the North Korea.
you are stuck with it.

I am free :eusa_whistle:
 

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