How can anyone support Hillary or declare Obama was a success?

[Dr.Traveler]

Ahh... so you're one of those. The Vince Foster conspiracy guys. Good luck with that.

Or are you talking about Benghazi, for which Clinton was endlessly investigated? Again, good luck with that.

As for the OP, Trump doesn't have a leg to stand on complaining about most of his issues. Corruption? Ha. Ha. He's been corrupt for years. Morality? Ha. Ha. Hell, even when it comes to business the brainiac lost almost a billion dollars in a year. The man's rich for the same reason Kim Kardashian is rich and Paris Hilton are rich.

I get protest votes. I was pretty certain I wouldn't vote for Hillary this year. I'm not a fan of her or Bill. But again, Trump is a joke of a candidate who stopped being funny when he started talking about changing/ignoring laws so he could go after his opponents. Or when he started undermining the election results before a vote had been cast. So no thanks. I'll vote Hillary. I'll hold my nose to do it, but I will do it.

me thinks you are one confused dude. how is going to undermine the election? cause he won't concede until he sees all the results? How is that unusual? what laws is he ignoring. look you want to bash trump at least post the items of the hate, not innuendo.

Trump is undermining the election. He has no evidence of vote rigging. If he did, he has an obligation to bring it forward now. Yet he's questioning the results before the results are in. That's a dangerous game to play in a democracy. The only reason American democracy has held out is because we as a people believe in it. You start undermining it, then this all goes down the tubes fast.

Voter fraud is incredibly rare. On top of that, the voting process is controlled by the states. Inside those states the GOP itself controls enough state legislatures and State Secretary offices that if fraud were happening, then the GOP itself would have to be complicit. Here in Ohio, polls are staffed by registered GOP and DNC voters, they're delivered by local police who have GOP and DNC reps riding along, and then they're observed by DNC and GOP lawyers and voters. It's an incredibly good system. It's fair. It's accurate. And it's very very very tough to rig.

So yeah, between that and the way he's talked about how he wants to go after his political enemies if elected? I'll skip Trump thanks.

undermining the election? really? how about parading in woman after woman to make a false accusation about the man running for president and the msm picking it up and running with it like it is factual or matters. how about the msm not picking up on the bribe paid to the FBI agent who was investigating the email of one hillary clinton. nothing. I bet you haven't heard about it.

I seriously doubt that those allegations are false. He was caught on tape bragging about behavior that is legally sexual assault. He's been on Stern's show talking about behavior that's not far removed from what these women are talking about. He's been married multiple times and had multiple affairs. He's fairly well known for being a vindictive bully of a person. To put it in perspective: Trump's actions, reputation, and allegations aren't all that different from Bill Cosby's or Bill Clinton's. And I take those very seriously.

The FBI thing? First up I don't believe what she did there rises to criminality myself. Stupid, yes. Criminal, no. But if did get upset about the FBI thing I'd also have to be pointing out that Trump outright bribed the Florida DA to make the Trump University lawsuits go away in Florida. Or that he used his private charity to settle his legal fees in direct contravention to law. So he's not exactly above reproach here either.

And again, I see him and the statements he's made as a direct threat to American democracy. I'm no fan of her, but Clinton hasn't risen to that level in my mind yet. So I'm voting Clinton.

so why didn't the women report them when they happened? I'm sorry, if they are this upset today, why wouldn't they have been when it supposedly happened? have they no morals? they allowed him to continue to do to others then? is that what they did, they didn't punish him for his acts? excuse me, but you must believe in unicorns and fairies too. They exist in someone's mind, but not in reality.

It took a while for Cosby's and Bill Clinton's accusers to come out to. Talk with someone who's been sexually assaulted. It takes a while to get to the point you can even talk about it, much less stand up in front of the public with it.

Add to that the fact that Trump has a long history of countersuing anyone that makes an allegation against him and a long long history of being a bully. So yeah, I take those seriously. If you think those accusations are all false, ask yourself this: Why do you accept the allegations against Bill Clinton?

 

[RDD_1210]

Eh. I'll be voting for Hillary. It's easy. You walk in, show your ID, push the button, walk out. Done.

She's not my first choice, but Trump's words on the election results, libel laws, the press, political opponents, etc have left no doubt he represents a true danger to American democracy. He reminds me of every tinpot strongman I've ever seen in the news in other countries. So no thanks. Next time, run a reasonable candidate.

It's an old joke, but this election is pretty comparable to the iPhone 7 vs. Samsung Galaxy Note debate. One doesn't have a headphone jack, the other randomly explodes. Seems pretty clear to me.

Jayzus! You mean that you would vote for a scuzbag like Hillary to spite Trump? Doesn't sound logical. Oh well.

Let's be honest if Hillary had an (R) next to her name you would be thrilled to vote for her. She's more of a republican than Trump has ever been.

I don't vote for traitorous murdering thieves and my absolute hate and loathing for both Clintons goes back to 1969 and I will never forgive those two creeps in my lifetime.

You'll vote for anyone with an (R), who are you kidding. Pretending like you have morals or standards. Ha!

And you are voting for a slimy vagina, and we know you don't have morals or standards,(well maybe double standards) . Quick lesson for you libidiots. Liberals(R) and (D) have crowned themselves kings and queens(some men as queens also) to rule over US. Don't you feel a little pissed that Debbie WasAmanSnitz, co-conspired against Bernie the Socialist, because the liberal elites knew you were too dumb enough to vote for the RIGHT candidate, HRC? Arent you a little pissed that over 8 years and the promise of Hope and Change, Rich Liberals like Warrant Buffet, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton and his wife, and Al Gore have made millions of dollars, and the most US citizens in poverty ever? It was the establishment that created the Trump for President movement, more legal US citizens want Trump to stop 4 more years of Obama's liberal elite rich scheme, but alas, you are too stupid to understand this, as you now can get dope, government cheese, and Netflix in your parents basement. Wasting away in Obamaville.....

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Are you doing better or worse now compared to the day Obama took office?

 

[TheDude]

No, it's a lie. Let's pretend you were right again...............Libs. love pretend. You're suggesting only dumb white males support Trump.......That would imply everyone else supports Hillary right? Considering the overwhelming evidence Hillary is a crook, liar, incompetent, and her only true accomplishment is her sex and Clinton name. Add her and her husband have done FAR more than what liberals accuse Trump of being, and she represents EXACTLY what liberals claim to detest............. ARE YOU FN CERTAIN IT'S DUMB WHITE MALES THAT ARE DUMB? It's opposite day. BTW, by liberal definitions you're racist and a manizer.

let me know when you're ready for a well over 200 point splash demonstrating it's not dumb white males that are dumb..... I guess it's "literally" "everyone" else who is emotionally unstrung, leading to irrational behavior demonstrating they have the brass, "thought" processing and leadership mentality of mere sheep.

And this is me taking a wiz on "education".......Outside math and logic (two aspects lost on liberals - FACT), today's college education is a wash in "liberal arts", as demonstrated by sensitive college students who couldn't work their way out of a wet paper bag without "input" red-tape, unnecessary processing, lack of understanding of the problem and thus certain failure. Speaking for myself, my formal education ended with the 4th grade, but I run rings around my college "educated" colleagues, because I learned long ago things almost completely lost on our society today, which are efficiency, planning, doing things right the first time and the simple solution is generally the best solution.....Crazy I know. Additionally, despite that 4th grade formal ed. my IQ is far above average. That IQ says I'll take a blue collar problem-solving machine over any theory-thinking, pampered professor high on liberal-arts who has never achieved anything outside a FN grade on a paper.

 

[jc456]

me thinks you are one confused dude. how is going to undermine the election? cause he won't concede until he sees all the results? How is that unusual? what laws is he ignoring. look you want to bash trump at least post the items of the hate, not innuendo.

Trump is undermining the election. He has no evidence of vote rigging. If he did, he has an obligation to bring it forward now. Yet he's questioning the results before the results are in. That's a dangerous game to play in a democracy. The only reason American democracy has held out is because we as a people believe in it. You start undermining it, then this all goes down the tubes fast.

Voter fraud is incredibly rare. On top of that, the voting process is controlled by the states. Inside those states the GOP itself controls enough state legislatures and State Secretary offices that if fraud were happening, then the GOP itself would have to be complicit. Here in Ohio, polls are staffed by registered GOP and DNC voters, they're delivered by local police who have GOP and DNC reps riding along, and then they're observed by DNC and GOP lawyers and voters. It's an incredibly good system. It's fair. It's accurate. And it's very very very tough to rig.

So yeah, between that and the way he's talked about how he wants to go after his political enemies if elected? I'll skip Trump thanks.

undermining the election? really? how about parading in woman after woman to make a false accusation about the man running for president and the msm picking it up and running with it like it is factual or matters. how about the msm not picking up on the bribe paid to the FBI agent who was investigating the email of one hillary clinton. nothing. I bet you haven't heard about it.

I seriously doubt that those allegations are false. He was caught on tape bragging about behavior that is legally sexual assault. He's been on Stern's show talking about behavior that's not far removed from what these women are talking about. He's been married multiple times and had multiple affairs. He's fairly well known for being a vindictive bully of a person. To put it in perspective: Trump's actions, reputation, and allegations aren't all that different from Bill Cosby's or Bill Clinton's. And I take those very seriously.

The FBI thing? First up I don't believe what she did there rises to criminality myself. Stupid, yes. Criminal, no. But if did get upset about the FBI thing I'd also have to be pointing out that Trump outright bribed the Florida DA to make the Trump University lawsuits go away in Florida. Or that he used his private charity to settle his legal fees in direct contravention to law. So he's not exactly above reproach here either.

And again, I see him and the statements he's made as a direct threat to American democracy. I'm no fan of her, but Clinton hasn't risen to that level in my mind yet. So I'm voting Clinton.

so why didn't the women report them when they happened? I'm sorry, if they are this upset today, why wouldn't they have been when it supposedly happened? have they no morals? they allowed him to continue to do to others then? is that what they did, they didn't punish him for his acts? excuse me, but you must believe in unicorns and fairies too. They exist in someone's mind, but not in reality.

It took a while for Cosby's and Bill Clinton's accusers to come out to. Talk with someone who's been sexually assaulted. It takes a while to get to the point you can even talk about it, much less stand up in front of the public with it.

Add to that the fact that Trump has a long history of countersuing anyone that makes an allegation against him and a long long history of being a bully. So yeah, I take those seriously. If you think those accusations are all false, ask yourself this: Why do you accept the allegations against Bill Clinton?

believe me I don't believe any of Bill Cosby's accusers either. Dude, it makes no sense, sorry. See Clinton's came forward immediately. they came out and said what happened after it happened. confronted by the corrupt one.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Eh. I'll be voting for Hillary. It's easy. You walk in, show your ID, push the button, walk out. Done.

She's not my first choice, but Trump's words on the election results, libel laws, the press, political opponents, etc have left no doubt he represents a true danger to American democracy. He reminds me of every tinpot strongman I've ever seen in the news in other countries. So no thanks. Next time, run a reasonable candidate.

It's an old joke, but this election is pretty comparable to the iPhone 7 vs. Samsung Galaxy Note debate. One doesn't have a headphone jack, the other randomly explodes. Seems pretty clear to me.

Jayzus! You mean that you would vote for a scuzbag like Hillary to spite Trump? Doesn't sound logical. Oh well.

It's a two party system at the end of the day, and I live in a battleground state. The only reasonable anti-Trump vote is Hillary. So there it is.

I have lived in non-battleground states. If I currently lived in a state like Texas or Louisiana I'd probably vote for Johnson or McMullin (Stein is an idiot). It wouldn't matter then who I voted for because Trump would carry the state regardless.

But now I'm in a battleground state? Voting Hillary to stop Trump isn't only sensible, it's down right logical.

so again, you're ok with a murderer in the white house. a liar and a traitor. wow. you have low aspirations of the country.

Trump's a pretty low bar. Unfortunately, Hillary clears it. So I'm ok with my vote.

a murderer in the white house is what you'd prefer. It ain't ever going to go away.

Eh. It's not an office for folks with clean hands. Carter proved that. I'm old enough to be past my idealistic phase.

 

[jc456]

Jayzus! You mean that you would vote for a scuzbag like Hillary to spite Trump? Doesn't sound logical. Oh well.

It's a two party system at the end of the day, and I live in a battleground state. The only reasonable anti-Trump vote is Hillary. So there it is.

I have lived in non-battleground states. If I currently lived in a state like Texas or Louisiana I'd probably vote for Johnson or McMullin (Stein is an idiot). It wouldn't matter then who I voted for because Trump would carry the state regardless.

But now I'm in a battleground state? Voting Hillary to stop Trump isn't only sensible, it's down right logical.

so again, you're ok with a murderer in the white house. a liar and a traitor. wow. you have low aspirations of the country.

Trump's a pretty low bar. Unfortunately, Hillary clears it. So I'm ok with my vote.

a murderer in the white house is what you'd prefer. It ain't ever going to go away.

Eh. It's not an office for folks with clean hands. Carter proved that. I'm old enough to be past my idealistic phase.

well you appear to be a hypocrite then.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

No, it's a lie. Let's pretend you were right again...............Libs. love pretend. You're suggesting only dumb white males support Trump.......That would imply everyone else supports Hillary right? Considering the overwhelming evidence Hillary is a crook, liar, incompetent, and her only true accomplishment is her sex and Clinton name. Add her and her husband have done FAR more than what liberals accuse Trump of being, and she represents EXACTLY what liberals claim to detest............. ARE YOU FN CERTAIN IT'S DUMB WHITE MALES THAT ARE DUMB? It's opposite day. BTW, by liberal definitions you're racist and a manizer.

let me know when you're ready for a well over 200 point splash demonstrating it's not dumb white males that are dumb..... I guess it's "literally" "everyone" else who is emotionally unstrung, leading to irrational behavior demonstrating they have the brass, "thought" processing and leadership mentality of mere sheep.

And this is me taking a wiz on "education".......Outside math and logic (two aspects lost on liberals - FACT), today's college education is a wash in "liberal arts", as demonstrated by sensitive college students who couldn't work their way out of a wet paper bag without "input" red-tape, unnecessary processing, lack of understanding of the problem and thus certain failure. Speaking for myself, my former education ended with the 4th grade, but I run rings around my college "educated" colleagues, because I learned long ago things almost completely lost on our society today, which are efficiency, planning, doing things right the first time and the simple solution is generally the best solution.....Crazy I know. Additionally, despite that 4th grade formal ed. my IQ is far above average. That IQ says I'll take a blue collar problem-solving machine over any theory-thinking, pampered professor high on liberal-arts who has never achieved anything outside a FN grade on a paper.

This post certainly shows the expert, measured, and nuanced skill of an educated mind.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

so you're ok voting in a murderer. shows how little you do care.

Ahh... so you're one of those. The Vince Foster conspiracy guys. Good luck with that.

Or are you talking about Benghazi, for which Clinton was endlessly investigated? Again, good luck with that.

As for the OP, Trump doesn't have a leg to stand on complaining about most of his issues. Corruption? Ha. Ha. He's been corrupt for years. Morality? Ha. Ha. Hell, even when it comes to business the brainiac lost almost a billion dollars in a year. The man's rich for the same reason Kim Kardashian is rich and Paris Hilton are rich.

I get protest votes. I was pretty certain I wouldn't vote for Hillary this year. I'm not a fan of her or Bill. But again, Trump is a joke of a candidate who stopped being funny when he started talking about changing/ignoring laws so he could go after his opponents. Or when he started undermining the election results before a vote had been cast. So no thanks. I'll vote Hillary. I'll hold my nose to do it, but I will do it.

me thinks you are one confused dude. how is going to undermine the election? cause he won't concede until he sees all the results? How is that unusual? what laws is he ignoring. look you want to bash trump at least post the items of the hate, not innuendo.

Trump is undermining the election. He has no evidence of vote rigging. If he did, he has an obligation to bring it forward now. Yet he's questioning the results before the results are in. That's a dangerous game to play in a democracy. The only reason American democracy has held out is because we as a people believe in it. You start undermining it, then this all goes down the tubes fast.

Voter fraud is incredibly rare. On top of that, the voting process is controlled by the states. Inside those states the GOP itself controls enough state legislatures and State Secretary offices that if fraud were happening, then the GOP itself would have to be complicit. Here in Ohio, polls are staffed by registered GOP and DNC voters, they're delivered by local police who have GOP and DNC reps riding along, and then they're observed by DNC and GOP lawyers and voters. It's an incredibly good system. It's fair. It's accurate. And it's very very very tough to rig.

So yeah, between that and the way he's talked about how he wants to go after his political enemies if elected? I'll skip Trump thanks.

So you've somehow missed wikileaks?

Nope. But there's not much there. Just the usual crap that goes around in emails. Most of the Wikileaks is less interesting or impactful than the Sony leak was.

Plus, there's the fact that it's being connected to the Russians and that some of the emails have been debunked. That pretty much undermines it as a campaign issue.

Got a link to those debunked emails?
Are you really trying to downplay whats been discovered in wikileaks?

 

[Dr.Traveler]

It's a two party system at the end of the day, and I live in a battleground state. The only reasonable anti-Trump vote is Hillary. So there it is.

I have lived in non-battleground states. If I currently lived in a state like Texas or Louisiana I'd probably vote for Johnson or McMullin (Stein is an idiot). It wouldn't matter then who I voted for because Trump would carry the state regardless.

But now I'm in a battleground state? Voting Hillary to stop Trump isn't only sensible, it's down right logical.

so again, you're ok with a murderer in the white house. a liar and a traitor. wow. you have low aspirations of the country.

Trump's a pretty low bar. Unfortunately, Hillary clears it. So I'm ok with my vote.

a murderer in the white house is what you'd prefer. It ain't ever going to go away.

Eh. It's not an office for folks with clean hands. Carter proved that. I'm old enough to be past my idealistic phase.

well you appear to be a hypocrite then.

Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Trump is an outright threat to American Democracy. I vote for him and there's no guarantee he will respect the institution or the results of elections he fails to like. And then what? It's one thing for him to say he won't respect the election results as a normal citizen. It undermines the whole system but at the end of the day, we can all ignore him and get on with the peaceful transition of power.

But if he's president? Then we have a Constitutional crisis. So no, I won't vote to put him in the position where he can ignore an election as a sitting President. I can square the rest of the issues with Hillary and sleep at night. I can't say I'll be able to do the same if I vote for Trump. So no, I won't vote for Trump. I'll take my battleground state vote and cast it in a useful way to block him.

 

[francoHFW]

We know Hillary is a crook and a liar. We know she doesn't mean anything she tells the voters. A vote for her is a mandate for corruption and decay. That's how things work when your reward people for bad behavior.

The Black Lives Matter business was exploited by the Democrats to achieve power. Turns out the opposite was true, and what was the result? Dead cops, disrespect, destruction and a dumbed-down country. Perhaps the real plan is to destroy the black population all-together.

Liberal media and rhetoric is 99% BS. I'm not a fan of Trumps, but for everything he's said or done Hillary has done much worse and more often. I wouldn't say that if I couldn't provide proof. Liberals don't care, most operate on emotions and that's proven too.

Then we have our current POUS in power for eight years. His devotion declares he was a good POUS or even great. If that doesn't prove we're a dumbed-down country I don't know what can. This is Obama's legacy:

1. Though we've had some correction the period required to do that was historically long. We never had a true correction, because the economy is stagnant..........Fail.

2. National debt doubled on Obama's watch.........Fail.

3. Record number of people left the job market altogether or they're under-employed. These numbers aren't reflected by the unemployment rate.........Fail.

4. Standard of living has regressed.........Fail.

5. Obamacare is a disaster..........Fail. If this doesn't demonstrate how socialism is a failure I don't know what can. The ultimate result of socialism is a reduction of everyone to the lowest common denominator. Congratulations on that Obama. He's taken a big step to achieve that goal.

6. We went to war in Syria. Obama is puzzy-footing around because he's a coward, and happy to leave the problem for someone else. If liberals weren't the hypocrites they are they'd see that the only major difference between our Iraqi invasion and our position in Syria is one had a goal, the other is a circus. Joke's on us. Meanwhile Bush is a hack and Obama was great..........That's just core stupidity.

7. Obama led the most corrupt admin. in our history, and now liberals want Hillary? We know the Justice Dept. is corrupt. We know the FBI is corrupt. We know the IRS is corrupt, we know the State Dept. is/was corrupt. We also know the DNC is corrupt, as is the entire effort to elect Hillary Clinton. We also know the media is just a component of the Democrat machine. Seriously, what happened to the American public we've deteriorated to this level?

8. Race relations have regressed 40-60 years, all so the Democrats can achieve power. Obama takes the lion's share of responsibility. It's all BS.

9. Despite historically low interest rates home ownership continues to decline. Then reflect on #1.

10. Cold war with Russia. Reagan managed to win one, Obama managed to build one. Good job Obama, you're the bestest.

Add our trade deficit, our immigration "policy", and a President who's true legacy is weakness and the great divider. Obama is clearly a failure. So what do liberals want to do? Compound the problem. On top of that, they "declare" a fight against the establishment. Once again these are just words, because they do the exact opposite.

This is the legacy we leave for our children. Shame on you, shame on us.

Because 47% of the people living legally and illegally here are like the lady in the video. When you are stupid, you vote for those who will give you FREE stuff, until the FREE stuff runs out.

A) It's a Reagan/ Booosh phone.
B) Everyone pays 19-29% in all taxes and fees, dupe.
C) Change will come when the mindless New BS GOP stops obstructing it.

 

[jc456]

so again, you're ok with a murderer in the white house. a liar and a traitor. wow. you have low aspirations of the country.

Trump's a pretty low bar. Unfortunately, Hillary clears it. So I'm ok with my vote.

a murderer in the white house is what you'd prefer. It ain't ever going to go away.

Eh. It's not an office for folks with clean hands. Carter proved that. I'm old enough to be past my idealistic phase.

well you appear to be a hypocrite then.

Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Trump is an outright threat to American Democracy. I vote for him and there's no guarantee he will respect the institution or the results of elections he fails to like. And then what? It's one thing for him to say he won't respect the election results as a normal citizen. It undermines the whole system but at the end of the day, we can all ignore him and get on with the peaceful transition of power.

But if he's president? Then we have a Constitutional crisis. So no, I won't vote to put him in the position where he can ignore an election as a sitting President. I can square the rest of the issues with Hillary and sleep at night. I can't say I'll be able to do the same if I vote for Trump. So no, I won't vote for Trump. I'll take my battleground state vote and cast it in a useful way to block him.

well I already know she doesn't respect the constitution, she's been in it for near 30 years and we are still in the same point in history. she has no respect for me she called me deplorable, I'm not welcomed in her country. Trump has always spoken of illegals only. ILLEGALS not citizens.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Ahh... so you're one of those. The Vince Foster conspiracy guys. Good luck with that.

Or are you talking about Benghazi, for which Clinton was endlessly investigated? Again, good luck with that.

As for the OP, Trump doesn't have a leg to stand on complaining about most of his issues. Corruption? Ha. Ha. He's been corrupt for years. Morality? Ha. Ha. Hell, even when it comes to business the brainiac lost almost a billion dollars in a year. The man's rich for the same reason Kim Kardashian is rich and Paris Hilton are rich.

I get protest votes. I was pretty certain I wouldn't vote for Hillary this year. I'm not a fan of her or Bill. But again, Trump is a joke of a candidate who stopped being funny when he started talking about changing/ignoring laws so he could go after his opponents. Or when he started undermining the election results before a vote had been cast. So no thanks. I'll vote Hillary. I'll hold my nose to do it, but I will do it.

me thinks you are one confused dude. how is going to undermine the election? cause he won't concede until he sees all the results? How is that unusual? what laws is he ignoring. look you want to bash trump at least post the items of the hate, not innuendo.

Trump is undermining the election. He has no evidence of vote rigging. If he did, he has an obligation to bring it forward now. Yet he's questioning the results before the results are in. That's a dangerous game to play in a democracy. The only reason American democracy has held out is because we as a people believe in it. You start undermining it, then this all goes down the tubes fast.

Voter fraud is incredibly rare. On top of that, the voting process is controlled by the states. Inside those states the GOP itself controls enough state legislatures and State Secretary offices that if fraud were happening, then the GOP itself would have to be complicit. Here in Ohio, polls are staffed by registered GOP and DNC voters, they're delivered by local police who have GOP and DNC reps riding along, and then they're observed by DNC and GOP lawyers and voters. It's an incredibly good system. It's fair. It's accurate. And it's very very very tough to rig.

So yeah, between that and the way he's talked about how he wants to go after his political enemies if elected? I'll skip Trump thanks.

So you've somehow missed wikileaks?

Nope. But there's not much there. Just the usual crap that goes around in emails. Most of the Wikileaks is less interesting or impactful than the Sony leak was.

Plus, there's the fact that it's being connected to the Russians and that some of the emails have been debunked. That pretty much undermines it as a campaign issue.

Got a link to those debunked emails?
Are you really trying to downplay whats been discovered in wikileaks?

Dear Mr. Trump, I am not Sidney Blumenthal

And once you have one doctored email in the batch, that means the rest have to corroborated. Which you'd have to do anyways for honest journalism. That's what happened with the Snowden leaks and other leaked stuff. That's what you'd have to do here too.

And as for the emails, I don't need to play them down. I have email. Folks say things in email they shouldn't. They say embarrassing stuff. Nothing in there I've read has shocked me. And more importantly: The voters don't care. The Podestra emails stubbornly refuse to move the polls. This could have been an issue in the primary, maybe. But now? Meh.

 

[TheDude]

Interesting how liberals declare Trump threatens democracy. It's primarily a subjective idea derived from bias.

Meanwhile it's Hillary and the Democrats who have PROVED to be exactly that.....This would be projection, but that doesn't begin to describe how irrational and emotionally led their rhetoric truly is.

You might look up the differences between a subjective and objective opinion. They teach that in college?

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Trump's a pretty low bar. Unfortunately, Hillary clears it. So I'm ok with my vote.

a murderer in the white house is what you'd prefer. It ain't ever going to go away.

Eh. It's not an office for folks with clean hands. Carter proved that. I'm old enough to be past my idealistic phase.

well you appear to be a hypocrite then.

Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Trump is an outright threat to American Democracy. I vote for him and there's no guarantee he will respect the institution or the results of elections he fails to like. And then what? It's one thing for him to say he won't respect the election results as a normal citizen. It undermines the whole system but at the end of the day, we can all ignore him and get on with the peaceful transition of power.

But if he's president? Then we have a Constitutional crisis. So no, I won't vote to put him in the position where he can ignore an election as a sitting President. I can square the rest of the issues with Hillary and sleep at night. I can't say I'll be able to do the same if I vote for Trump. So no, I won't vote for Trump. I'll take my battleground state vote and cast it in a useful way to block him.

well I already know she doesn't respect the constitution, she's been in it for near 30 years and we are still in the same point in history. she has no respect for me she called me deplorable, I'm not welcomed in her country. Trump has always spoken of illegals only. ILLEGALS not citizens.

The Khans aren't illegals.
His accusers aren't illegals.
Megan Kelly isn't illegal.
Judge Curiel isn't illegal.
Ted Cruz's wife isn't illegal.
Ted Cruz's Dad wasn't illegal (what does he seriously have against that guy?).
The 282 people and places he's insulted on Twitter are certainly not "Only Illegals".

 

[jc456]

a murderer in the white house is what you'd prefer. It ain't ever going to go away.

Eh. It's not an office for folks with clean hands. Carter proved that. I'm old enough to be past my idealistic phase.

well you appear to be a hypocrite then.

Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Trump is an outright threat to American Democracy. I vote for him and there's no guarantee he will respect the institution or the results of elections he fails to like. And then what? It's one thing for him to say he won't respect the election results as a normal citizen. It undermines the whole system but at the end of the day, we can all ignore him and get on with the peaceful transition of power.

But if he's president? Then we have a Constitutional crisis. So no, I won't vote to put him in the position where he can ignore an election as a sitting President. I can square the rest of the issues with Hillary and sleep at night. I can't say I'll be able to do the same if I vote for Trump. So no, I won't vote for Trump. I'll take my battleground state vote and cast it in a useful way to block him.

well I already know she doesn't respect the constitution, she's been in it for near 30 years and we are still in the same point in history. she has no respect for me she called me deplorable, I'm not welcomed in her country. Trump has always spoken of illegals only. ILLEGALS not citizens.

The Khans aren't illegals.
His accusers aren't illegals.
Megan Kelly isn't illegal.
Judge Curiel isn't illegal.
Ted Cruz's wife isn't illegal.
Ted Cruz's Dad wasn't illegal (what does he seriously have against that guy?).
The 282 people and places he's insulted on Twitter are certainly not "Only Illegals".

everyone of those were personal based on something they accused him of. not sure how that translates into a group of americans. but nice try. each one is a douche bag. The Khan's son was a hero. Trump stated that. but don't let facts get in your way.

 

[rightwinger]

How can anyone support Hillary?

She is easily the most qualified candidate to run in 2016 and she is running against the worst candidate for President in US History

Right, sure..........On the surface you could be right. Critical thought and history dictates the opposite, but seriously, liberals love opposites, don't you agree?

Here's some fun, lets pretend you have a point, which is another way of saying we must ignore the obvious. Didn't McCain face Obama in 2004? How come "experience" didn't matter then?

Why? (It was 2008 not 2004)

Because Obama provided a vision for the future that voters were willing to accept over experience. He was also running against a Republican. Republicans were blamed for the Iraq war and the economic collapse. Democrats won at all levels in 2008

 

[jc456]

How can anyone support Hillary?

She is easily the most qualified candidate to run in 2016 and she is running against the worst candidate for President in US History

Right, sure..........On the surface you could be right. Critical thought and history dictates the opposite, but seriously, liberals love opposites, don't you agree?

Here's some fun, lets pretend you have a point, which is another way of saying we must ignore the obvious. Didn't McCain face Obama in 2004? How come "experience" didn't matter then?

Why? (It was 2008 not 2004)

Because Obama provided a vision for the future that voters were willing to accept over experience. He was also running against a Republican. Republicans were blamed for the Iraq war and the economic collapse. Democrats won at all levels in 2008

and that failed miserably. I heard the premiums for health insurance are going up anywhere from 50% to 200% for next year. ouch. The lie continues.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Eh. It's not an office for folks with clean hands. Carter proved that. I'm old enough to be past my idealistic phase.

well you appear to be a hypocrite then.

Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Trump is an outright threat to American Democracy. I vote for him and there's no guarantee he will respect the institution or the results of elections he fails to like. And then what? It's one thing for him to say he won't respect the election results as a normal citizen. It undermines the whole system but at the end of the day, we can all ignore him and get on with the peaceful transition of power.

But if he's president? Then we have a Constitutional crisis. So no, I won't vote to put him in the position where he can ignore an election as a sitting President. I can square the rest of the issues with Hillary and sleep at night. I can't say I'll be able to do the same if I vote for Trump. So no, I won't vote for Trump. I'll take my battleground state vote and cast it in a useful way to block him.

well I already know she doesn't respect the constitution, she's been in it for near 30 years and we are still in the same point in history. she has no respect for me she called me deplorable, I'm not welcomed in her country. Trump has always spoken of illegals only. ILLEGALS not citizens.

The Khans aren't illegals.
His accusers aren't illegals.
Megan Kelly isn't illegal.
Judge Curiel isn't illegal.
Ted Cruz's wife isn't illegal.
Ted Cruz's Dad wasn't illegal (what does he seriously have against that guy?).
The 282 people and places he's insulted on Twitter are certainly not "Only Illegals".

everyone of those were personal based on something they accused him of. not sure how that translates into a group of americans. but nice try. each one is a douche bag. The Khan's son was a hero. Trump stated that. but don't let facts get in your way.

Sure. He's been the very paragon of virtue beset on all sides by horrible attackers. Oh how horrible. So Sad!

He has no personal restraint and no ability to take criticism. So I have no faith in his ability to be President, respect the traditions of American Democracy, guide foreign policy or military policy. So I won't be voting for him.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

me thinks you are one confused dude. how is going to undermine the election? cause he won't concede until he sees all the results? How is that unusual? what laws is he ignoring. look you want to bash trump at least post the items of the hate, not innuendo.

Trump is undermining the election. He has no evidence of vote rigging. If he did, he has an obligation to bring it forward now. Yet he's questioning the results before the results are in. That's a dangerous game to play in a democracy. The only reason American democracy has held out is because we as a people believe in it. You start undermining it, then this all goes down the tubes fast.

Voter fraud is incredibly rare. On top of that, the voting process is controlled by the states. Inside those states the GOP itself controls enough state legislatures and State Secretary offices that if fraud were happening, then the GOP itself would have to be complicit. Here in Ohio, polls are staffed by registered GOP and DNC voters, they're delivered by local police who have GOP and DNC reps riding along, and then they're observed by DNC and GOP lawyers and voters. It's an incredibly good system. It's fair. It's accurate. And it's very very very tough to rig.

So yeah, between that and the way he's talked about how he wants to go after his political enemies if elected? I'll skip Trump thanks.

So you've somehow missed wikileaks?

Nope. But there's not much there. Just the usual crap that goes around in emails. Most of the Wikileaks is less interesting or impactful than the Sony leak was.

Plus, there's the fact that it's being connected to the Russians and that some of the emails have been debunked. That pretty much undermines it as a campaign issue.

Got a link to those debunked emails?
Are you really trying to downplay whats been discovered in wikileaks?

Dear Mr. Trump, I am not Sidney Blumenthal

And once you have one doctored email in the batch, that means the rest have to corroborated. Which you'd have to do anyways for honest journalism. That's what happened with the Snowden leaks and other leaked stuff. That's what you'd have to do here too.

And as for the emails, I don't need to play them down. I have email. Stuff say things in email they shouldn't. They say embarrassing stuff. Nothing in there I've read has shocked me. And more importantly: The voters don't care. The Podestra emails stubbornly refuse to move the polls. This could have been an issue in the primary, maybe. But now? Meh.

So you have one email thats possibly bad.
What about the ones that have proven to be legit already?
Donna Brazile already tried to make that claim and she was proven wrong.

And it's a little odd that you would use the polls as an indicator when the MSM has been caught over sampling multiple times and wikileaks and the Veritas videos show election fraud.

 

[jc456]

Trump is undermining the election. He has no evidence of vote rigging. If he did, he has an obligation to bring it forward now. Yet he's questioning the results before the results are in. That's a dangerous game to play in a democracy. The only reason American democracy has held out is because we as a people believe in it. You start undermining it, then this all goes down the tubes fast.

Voter fraud is incredibly rare. On top of that, the voting process is controlled by the states. Inside those states the GOP itself controls enough state legislatures and State Secretary offices that if fraud were happening, then the GOP itself would have to be complicit. Here in Ohio, polls are staffed by registered GOP and DNC voters, they're delivered by local police who have GOP and DNC reps riding along, and then they're observed by DNC and GOP lawyers and voters. It's an incredibly good system. It's fair. It's accurate. And it's very very very tough to rig.

So yeah, between that and the way he's talked about how he wants to go after his political enemies if elected? I'll skip Trump thanks.

So you've somehow missed wikileaks?

Nope. But there's not much there. Just the usual crap that goes around in emails. Most of the Wikileaks is less interesting or impactful than the Sony leak was.

Plus, there's the fact that it's being connected to the Russians and that some of the emails have been debunked. That pretty much undermines it as a campaign issue.

Got a link to those debunked emails?
Are you really trying to downplay whats been discovered in wikileaks?

Dear Mr. Trump, I am not Sidney Blumenthal

And once you have one doctored email in the batch, that means the rest have to corroborated. Which you'd have to do anyways for honest journalism. That's what happened with the Snowden leaks and other leaked stuff. That's what you'd have to do here too.

And as for the emails, I don't need to play them down. I have email. Stuff say things in email they shouldn't. They say embarrassing stuff. Nothing in there I've read has shocked me. And more importantly: The voters don't care. The Podestra emails stubbornly refuse to move the polls. This could have been an issue in the primary, maybe. But now? Meh.

So you have one email thats possibly bad.
What about the ones that have proven to be legit already?
Donna Brazile already tried to make that claim and she was proven wrong.

And it's a little odd that you would use the polls as an indicator when the MSM has been caught over sampling multiple times and wikileaks and the Veritas videos show election fraud.

it's all acceptable to him.