How did Birth Control become a right?

[jc456]

Hey Ray, I had this thought last night, since women want us to pay for the sex fun, why can't they pay for our taxi rides home after a night of drinking?

 

[jc456]

The Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.

According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.

The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.

It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.

Longer-acting contraception, like an intrauterine device, can cost more than $1,000, says Sarah Lipton-Lubet, a vice president at the National Partnership for Women and Families. She says the new rule is a tool for discrimination against women.

"Women shouldn't be denied access to basic health care based on their employers' religious beliefs," she says. "We all have the right to our religious beliefs. But the way that this rule treats religion is really an excuse to discriminate."

In addition to the ACLU, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey, and California Attorney General Javier Becerra announced they too plan to file suit opposing the new rule.

Trump Guts Requirement That Employer Health Plans Pay For Birth Control

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

Who here believes that when the founders wrote the Constitution, that they had forcing employers to provide things for their employees in mind?

You men probably insisted upon it, you got tired of paying for abortions.

You men probably insisted upon it, you got tired of paying for abortions

ROFLMMFAO

The 'I am woman, hear me roar', feminist following,
strong, independent and smart women,
who need free BC because they can't afford it
or a man to pay for their abortion,
because they were stupid enough to get pregnant

No asshole. They need their health insurance to pay for it. It's a medical thing. Like your Viagara.

$12,000 a year for health insurance. It had better fucking pay for my birth control. Because otherwise it's going to pay a whole lot more for pregnancy and delivery.

why? isn't that subsidizing sex? I don't wish to pay for you to enjoy a good lay in bed. go fund your own fun.

 

[JoeB131]

Hey Ray, I had this thought last night, since women want us to pay for the sex fun, why can't they pay for our taxi rides home after a night of drinking?

That might not be an entirely bad idea. THink how much we could save if Taxi Service for the inebriated became a thing.

 

[hadit]

Does it stop PP funding? Basically, you're afraid that people will object and you don't want that. By forcing employers to do it, the government is ducking direct responsibility.

Personally, I would want to see employers get out of the Insurance Business altogether and go to single payer. But as long as we have to get our health insurance through our employers, then we better damned well make sure they aren't using their half-ass bronze age morality to overrule good medical judgement.

The only two people who should decide what treatment is appropriate is the patient and her doctor.

And employers aren't stopping that.


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[keepitreal]

The Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.

According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.

The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.

It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.

Longer-acting contraception, like an intrauterine device, can cost more than $1,000, says Sarah Lipton-Lubet, a vice president at the National Partnership for Women and Families. She says the new rule is a tool for discrimination against women.

"Women shouldn't be denied access to basic health care based on their employers' religious beliefs," she says. "We all have the right to our religious beliefs. But the way that this rule treats religion is really an excuse to discriminate."

In addition to the ACLU, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey, and California Attorney General Javier Becerra announced they too plan to file suit opposing the new rule.

Trump Guts Requirement That Employer Health Plans Pay For Birth Control

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

Who here believes that when the founders wrote the Constitution, that they had forcing employers to provide things for their employees in mind?

You men probably insisted upon it, you got tired of paying for abortions.

You men probably insisted upon it, you got tired of paying for abortions

ROFLMMFAO

The 'I am woman, hear me roar', feminist following,
strong, independent and smart women,
who need free BC because they can't afford it
or a man to pay for their abortion,
because they were stupid enough to get pregnant

No asshole. They need their health insurance to pay for it. It's a medical thing. Like your Viagara.

$12,000 a year for health insurance. It had better fucking pay for my birth control. Because otherwise it's going to pay a whole lot more for pregnancy and delivery.

No asshole. They need their health insurance to pay for it. It's a medical thing. Like your Viagara.

Bitch, please!...I'm not a guy

Wanting dick but, not getting knocked up, isn't a 'medical thing'

$12,000 a year for health insurance. It had better fucking pay for my birth control. Because otherwise it's going to pay a whole lot more for pregnancy and delivery.

Let the dick fucking you pay for your BC!
And, don't worry, abortion is cheaper

 

[JoeB131]

And employers aren't stopping that.

Uh, yeah, they are. when someone like the shitballs at Hobby Lobby say they won't fund certain birth control, they are putting their backward ass bronze age superstitions above medical science.

 

[BluesLegend]

Having a baby is a health issue, if the mother doesn't stay in good health, the baby suffers. And bc cost peanuts, whereas maternity leave and sick days to take care of your kid will cost at least as much as your boat, and probably more, because you sound like a cheap bastard who has his eye on a dingy.

Aren't all those things the responsibility of the mother and the father?

Oh, I don't have a dingy. I'm 73 and just bought another Harley that cost more than your past two cars, maybe three.

So why is the United States the only modern country without good health care system? Hint the GOP.

The US healthcare system is second to none. I think your question is where's my free government healthcare hand out.

That's what happens when you get sick or have an accident, stupid. That's why they call it insurance or a system. We're the only modern country that doesn't have a system. That's why it cost so much

I want free government healthcare the rich

 

[BluesLegend]

Having a baby is a health issue, if the mother doesn't stay in good health, the baby suffers. And bc cost peanuts, whereas maternity leave and sick days to take care of your kid will cost at least as much as your boat, and probably more, because you sound like a cheap bastard who has his eye on a dingy.

Aren't all those things the responsibility of the mother and the father?

Oh, I don't have a dingy. I'm 73 and just bought another Harley that cost more than your past two cars, maybe three.

So why is the United States the only modern country without good health care system? Hint the GOP.

The US healthcare system is second to none. I think your question is where's my free government healthcare hand out.

Second to none in cost. Second to none in people who can't afford health care. And second to none in the disparity of health care for the rich as oppose to what the poor get.

rich people have more money than I do its not fair where's my government hand out

 

[Penelope]

BC should just have a copay. If the doctor writes a script who is an employee to disagree. I am sick of this shit.

 

[Penelope]

Having a baby is a health issue, if the mother doesn't stay in good health, the baby suffers. And bc cost peanuts, whereas maternity leave and sick days to take care of your kid will cost at least as much as your boat, and probably more, because you sound like a cheap bastard who has his eye on a dingy.

Aren't all those things the responsibility of the mother and the father?

Oh, I don't have a dingy. I'm 73 and just bought another Harley that cost more than your past two cars, maybe three.

So why is the United States the only modern country without good health care system? Hint the GOP.

The US healthcare system is second to none. I think your question is where's my free government healthcare hand out.

Second to none in cost. Second to none in people who can't afford health care. And second to none in the disparity of health care for the rich as oppose to what the poor get.

rich people have more money than I do its not fair where's my government hand out

Yes rich people can afford health ins, which most median lower income can't. You have that right. Most of us pay for our premiums and if the employer wants to pick in what makes them doctor employer.

We need universal health care in the US.

 

[Penelope]

Having a baby is a health issue, if the mother doesn't stay in good health, the baby suffers. And bc cost peanuts, whereas maternity leave and sick days to take care of your kid will cost at least as much as your boat, and probably more, because you sound like a cheap bastard who has his eye on a dingy.

Aren't all those things the responsibility of the mother and the father?

Oh, I don't have a dingy. I'm 73 and just bought another Harley that cost more than your past two cars, maybe three.

So why is the United States the only modern country without good health care system? Hint the GOP.

The US healthcare system is second to none. I think your question is where's my free government healthcare hand out.

That's what happens when you get sick or have an accident, stupid. That's why they call it insurance or a system. We're the only modern country that doesn't have a system. That's why it cost so much

I want free government healthcare the rich

Tell us how someone making min wage can afford healthcare, maybe you know a secret.

 

[Taz]

Having a baby is a health issue, if the mother doesn't stay in good health, the baby suffers. And bc cost peanuts, whereas maternity leave and sick days to take care of your kid will cost at least as much as your boat, and probably more, because you sound like a cheap bastard who has his eye on a dingy.

Aren't all those things the responsibility of the mother and the father?

Oh, I don't have a dingy. I'm 73 and just bought another Harley that cost more than your past two cars, maybe three.

So why is the United States the only modern country without good health care system? Hint the GOP.

The US healthcare system is second to none. I think your question is where's my free government healthcare hand out.

Second to none in cost. Second to none in people who can't afford health care. And second to none in the disparity of health care for the rich as oppose to what the poor get.

rich people have more money than I do its not fair where's my government hand out

A lot of civilized countries provide health care for their citizens instead of spending that cash on bombing countries that didn't do anything to them.

 

[BluesLegend]

Aren't all those things the responsibility of the mother and the father?

Oh, I don't have a dingy. I'm 73 and just bought another Harley that cost more than your past two cars, maybe three.

So why is the United States the only modern country without good health care system? Hint the GOP.

The US healthcare system is second to none. I think your question is where's my free government healthcare hand out.

Second to none in cost. Second to none in people who can't afford health care. And second to none in the disparity of health care for the rich as oppose to what the poor get.

rich people have more money than I do its not fair where's my government hand out

Yes rich people can afford health ins, which most median lower income can't. You have that right. Most of us pay for our premiums and if the employer wants to pick in what makes them doctor employer.

We need universal health care in the US.

Who's this 'we' not the majority of working Americans.

 

[BluesLegend]

Aren't all those things the responsibility of the mother and the father?

Oh, I don't have a dingy. I'm 73 and just bought another Harley that cost more than your past two cars, maybe three.

So why is the United States the only modern country without good health care system? Hint the GOP.

The US healthcare system is second to none. I think your question is where's my free government healthcare hand out.

That's what happens when you get sick or have an accident, stupid. That's why they call it insurance or a system. We're the only modern country that doesn't have a system. That's why it cost so much

I want free government healthcare the rich

Tell us how someone making min wage can afford healthcare, maybe you know a secret.

Medicaid.

 

[BluesLegend]

Aren't all those things the responsibility of the mother and the father?

Oh, I don't have a dingy. I'm 73 and just bought another Harley that cost more than your past two cars, maybe three.

So why is the United States the only modern country without good health care system? Hint the GOP.

The US healthcare system is second to none. I think your question is where's my free government healthcare hand out.

Second to none in cost. Second to none in people who can't afford health care. And second to none in the disparity of health care for the rich as oppose to what the poor get.

rich people have more money than I do its not fair where's my government hand out

A lot of civilized countries provide health care for their citizens instead of spending that cash on bombing countries that didn't do anything to them.

A lot of civilized countries are not $20 trillion dollars in debt.

 

[jc456]

Hey Ray, I had this thought last night, since women want us to pay for the sex fun, why can't they pay for our taxi rides home after a night of drinking?

That might not be an entirely bad idea. THink how much we could save if Taxi Service for the inebriated became a thing.

what we should do is just say the government pay for all fun. I believe that is the objective of the left.

 

[jc456]

The Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.

According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.

The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.

It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.

Longer-acting contraception, like an intrauterine device, can cost more than $1,000, says Sarah Lipton-Lubet, a vice president at the National Partnership for Women and Families. She says the new rule is a tool for discrimination against women.

"Women shouldn't be denied access to basic health care based on their employers' religious beliefs," she says. "We all have the right to our religious beliefs. But the way that this rule treats religion is really an excuse to discriminate."

In addition to the ACLU, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey, and California Attorney General Javier Becerra announced they too plan to file suit opposing the new rule.

Trump Guts Requirement That Employer Health Plans Pay For Birth Control

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

Who here believes that when the founders wrote the Constitution, that they had forcing employers to provide things for their employees in mind?

You men probably insisted upon it, you got tired of paying for abortions.

You men probably insisted upon it, you got tired of paying for abortions

ROFLMMFAO

The 'I am woman, hear me roar', feminist following,
strong, independent and smart women,
who need free BC because they can't afford it
or a man to pay for their abortion,
because they were stupid enough to get pregnant

No asshole. They need their health insurance to pay for it. It's a medical thing. Like your Viagara.

$12,000 a year for health insurance. It had better fucking pay for my birth control. Because otherwise it's going to pay a whole lot more for pregnancy and delivery.

no,....it's subsidizing sex. since when do we have government paid fun for individuals. where's mine?

 

[jc456]

Because so much of our healthcare system is based on employer supplied Health Care duh!

So change it. Create a new welfare program.


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What do you have against birth control?

Nothing. Why? What do you have against freedom?


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The government makes you pay for all kinds of stuff that you'll never use, so why pick on birth control?

I don't have a problem with it. I do, however, believe in freedom. If the government wants people to have free contraceptives and boner pills, then it should provide them, not force private sector employers to pay for them.


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somewhere it is still subsidized. And i want something as well for free.

 

[jc456]

So why not be honest and create a new welfare program dedicated to subsidizing peoples' sex lives?

Probably because you'll get the religious nutters trying to decide they are doctors... kind of like they do with Planned Parenthood funding now.

no, they don't want to subsidize sexual behavior. you still don't get it do you?

 

[jc456]

Does it stop PP funding? Basically, you're afraid that people will object and you don't want that. By forcing employers to do it, the government is ducking direct responsibility.

Personally, I would want to see employers get out of the Insurance Business altogether and go to single payer. But as long as we have to get our health insurance through our employers, then we better damned well make sure they aren't using their half-ass bronze age morality to overrule good medical judgement.

The only two people who should decide what treatment is appropriate is the patient and her doctor.

I want government out of insurance. So?