How we know Hitler was right wing.

[bripat9643]

Welcome to Newspeak. Where right is left, and ignorance is strength.

Yes, and well said.

Just as with the debate on climate change, much of the argumentation is based on the fact that the person talking has not seen the evidence. So we see posters claiming "Melting glaciers - I haven't seen any glaciers melting!" without mentioning that they have never left Alabama.

Likewise here we saw Oddball shrieking that Antonescu was a liberal - while doing to very convincing impression of someone who had never heard of the man.

You haven't posted any evidence, dipstick. The opinion of some humbug pinko intellectual isn't evidence of anything except his opinion.

 

[bripat9643]

BriPat -

Yeah, that might make sense if a half dozen posters hadn't explained to you ten times over that North Korea isn't a democracy just because it says it is.

North Korea is a non sequitur. If you had any actual evidence, you would have posted it.

 

[editec]

What fucking colossal waste of time it is debating over phrase that essentially has no clear meaning.

Hitler was Hitler, folks.

No single word adequately describes the system he devised.

 

[Uncensored2008]

BriPat -

Yeah, that might make sense if a half dozen posters hadn't explained to you ten times over that North Korea isn't a democracy just because it says it is.

Nor are leftists such as you "liberal," simply because you claim to be.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What fucking colossal waste of time it is debating over phrase that essentially has no clear meaning.

Hitler was Hitler, folks.

No single word adequately describes the system he devised.

Hitler was a product of his time. There was virtually no difference between Hitler and Stalin, outside of rhetoric. The early 20th century was a time of Eugenics and the fallacy of science as the answer to all things. Both Hitler and Marx claimed that they based their positions on science. Thus we had ghastly experiments from Mengele and Pavlov. These were men who held totalitarianism as the highest good, and human life as meaningless.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You're full of it dude.

I'm also right.

This is a discussion forum - and I'm more than happy to explain or clarify anything you are not getting.

You may not have noticed that your own link does not claim that fascism is in any left wing - it just highlights the apparent contradiction of left wing regimes using apparently right wing tactics. It's largely idiomatic.

Saying you're right doesn't make you right. It makes you arrogant. For every left there's a right, for every right there's a left. Nothing in this world is inherently one sided.

 

[Euroconservativ]

"We are determined to exterminate the notion that the economic system could operate enterely freely and enterely outside of any control on the part of the State"

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[HomeInspect]

Everything I have read in this thread ( Hitler, Marxism, Socialism, Communism etc etc) have one thing in common.. Government Control !!! What does Obama have in common with all of these.?? more Government Control !

 

[editec]

Everything I have read in this thread ( Hitler, Marxism, Socialism, Communism etc etc) have one thing in common.. Government Control !!! What does Obama have in common with all of these.?? more Government Control !

Governments are like that.

I can't think of even one example where a government freely choose to give up any power.

 

[Saigon]

For every left there's a right, for every right there's a left. Nothing in this world is inherently one sided.

Political systems very often are completely one sided.

Stalin was completely, utterly, totally left wing in every sense of the word. So was Mao.

Cristiani was completely, utterly right wing in every sense of the word. So was Antonescu.

Moderate regimes tend to be both closer to the centre and more inclined to 'borrowing' policies from other parties, but extremists are not.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Welcome to Newspeak. Where right is left, and ignorance is strength.

Yes, and well said.

Just as with the debate on climate change, much of the argumentation is based on the fact that the person talking has not seen the evidence. So we see posters claiming "Melting glaciers - I haven't seen any glaciers melting!" without mentioning that they have never left Alabama.

Likewise here we saw Oddball shrieking that Antonescu was a liberal - while doing to very convincing impression of someone who had never heard of the man.

Altered data filtered through Computer models that can only spit out "AGW" is still not science

 

[Pogo]

Welcome to Newspeak. Where right is left, and ignorance is strength.

Yes, and well said.

Just as with the debate on climate change, much of the argumentation is based on the fact that the person talking has not seen the evidence. So we see posters claiming "Melting glaciers - I haven't seen any glaciers melting!" without mentioning that they have never left Alabama.

Likewise here we saw Oddball shrieking that Antonescu was a liberal - while doing to very convincing impression of someone who had never heard of the man.

Altered data filtered through Computer models that can only spit out "AGW" is still not science

:::whhooosssh:::
Not the topic either.

 

[beagle9]

Everything I have read in this thread ( Hitler, Marxism, Socialism, Communism etc etc) have one thing in common.. Government Control !!! What does Obama have in common with all of these.?? more Government Control !

Governments are like that.

I can't think of even one example where a government freely choose to give up any power.

Ours shouldn't have to, because it was a power that was given unto them by the people, but not anymore is this the case, so your statement is correct even with our government these days, because they are empowered by corporations and big business in the global markets, and they are subjecting themselves to the UN, and not for and by the American people as it once was in America. Our power over our government has slipped through our hands in the back room deals and non-transparent business that has taken place for quite sometimes now, and it was all sold as the world will be a better place somehow, and the people in it will be a better people somehow, if we would all just go along together with it now.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Yes, and well said.

Just as with the debate on climate change, much of the argumentation is based on the fact that the person talking has not seen the evidence. So we see posters claiming "Melting glaciers - I haven't seen any glaciers melting!" without mentioning that they have never left Alabama.

Likewise here we saw Oddball shrieking that Antonescu was a liberal - while doing to very convincing impression of someone who had never heard of the man.

Altered data filtered through Computer models that can only spit out "AGW" is still not science

:::whhooosssh:::
Not the topic either.

bringing it full circle

hilter was another that thought people could control the climate

or weather

Hitler 'believed he could divine the weather', psychologist report suggests - Telegraph

 

[Pogo]

Altered data filtered through Computer models that can only spit out "AGW" is still not science

:::whhooosssh:::
Not the topic either.

bringing it full circle

hilter was another that thought people could control the climate

or weather

Hitler 'believed he could divine the weather', psychologist report suggests - Telegraph

That's not what the link says...

>> The author admits “one would think that even German credulity would be strained by such an assumption of divinity”, but concludes the evidence “might or might not represent an illusion of divine control over the weather.”

It adds: &#8220;How disciplinary action could affect the weather is obscure.&#8221; <<

Besides -- how did that work out in the Russian winter?

All irrelevant anyway -- the thread is not about weather, and weather is not a right or left political issue anyway. What happened above is an analogy using AGW, sailed over Frank's head and he took the allusion literally. A lot of points do that to people in Frank's position (i.e. the prone).

 

[jon_berzerk]

:::whhooosssh:::
Not the topic either.

bringing it full circle

hilter was another that thought people could control the climate

or weather

Hitler 'believed he could divine the weather', psychologist report suggests - Telegraph

That's not what the link says...

>> The author admits “one would think that even German credulity would be strained by such an assumption of divinity”, but concludes the evidence “might or might not represent an illusion of divine control over the weather.”

It adds: “How disciplinary action could affect the weather is obscure.” <<

Besides -- how did that work out in the Russian winter?

All irrelevant anyway -- the thread is not about weather, and weather is not a right or left political issue anyway. What happened above is an analogy using AGW, sailed over Frank's head and he took the allusion literally. A lot of points do that to people in Frank's position (i.e. the prone).

well at least now the thread is back online

about hitler and his leftist polices

 

[Pogo]

bringing it full circle

hilter was another that thought people could control the climate

or weather

Hitler 'believed he could divine the weather', psychologist report suggests - Telegraph

That's not what the link says...

>> The author admits &#8220;one would think that even German credulity would be strained by such an assumption of divinity&#8221;, but concludes the evidence &#8220;might or might not represent an illusion of divine control over the weather.&#8221;

It adds: &#8220;How disciplinary action could affect the weather is obscure.&#8221; <<

Besides -- how did that work out in the Russian winter?

All irrelevant anyway -- the thread is not about weather, and weather is not a right or left political issue anyway. What happened above is an analogy using AGW, sailed over Frank's head and he took the allusion literally. A lot of points do that to people in Frank's position (i.e. the prone).

well at least now the thread is back online

about hitler and his leftist polices

Yes, weather or not, Hitler's demonstration of how right-wing extremism can go so far wrong that normal right wingers find the need to try to completely revise known historical fact into a Doublethink perversion of it, is once again revived.

Hallelujah.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

That's not what the link says...

>> The author admits “one would think that even German credulity would be strained by such an assumption of divinity”, but concludes the evidence “might or might not represent an illusion of divine control over the weather.”

It adds: “How disciplinary action could affect the weather is obscure.” <<

Besides -- how did that work out in the Russian winter?

All irrelevant anyway -- the thread is not about weather, and weather is not a right or left political issue anyway. What happened above is an analogy using AGW, sailed over Frank's head and he took the allusion literally. A lot of points do that to people in Frank's position (i.e. the prone).

well at least now the thread is back online

about hitler and his leftist polices

Yes, weather or not, Hitler's demonstration of how right-wing extremism can go so far wrong that normal right wingers find the need to try to completely revise known historical fact into a Doublethink perversion of it, is once again revived.

Hallelujah.

Hitler, as far left as Stalin, Mao and Obama

 

[Pogo]

well at least now the thread is back online

about hitler and his leftist polices

Yes, weather or not, Hitler's demonstration of how right-wing extremism can go so far wrong that normal right wingers find the need to try to completely revise known historical fact into a Doublethink perversion of it, is once again revived.

Hallelujah.

Hitler, as far left as Stalin, Mao and Obama

Ah, there's crazy train, right on time: "Hitler = Obama".

Frank Godwin dispenses with the pseudoanalysis bullshit and cuts right to the chase. To hell with constructing rhetorical bridges to historical nowhere; let's just beam down directly.
What a time saver.

Esmerelda finally has company.

 

[Saigon]

Pogo -

Hitler, as far left as Stalin, Mao and Obama

Of course this is imbecilic - but Frank's posting does seem to be based on making ridiculous claims that he knows full well are ridiculous, presumably just because he can.

He won't defend the statement.