KG, are you ever going to reply to my statement that doesn't fit your extremist narrative?
You mean this one, that none of the Cons in this thread seem to want to respond to...
I give credit to Christians for being able to, however begrudgingly, accept living in a society with secular laws. That's probably the biggest difference between most religions and Islam over the last 500 years, and it truly makes quite a difference in the civility of a nation or region, imo.
Unfortunately, old habits are hard to kick.
We're still going back and forth about who should have how much of Jerusalem/Israel, a place that without it's significance in Abrahamic religions is nothing more than a barren desert with a nice coastline. If those involved could get out of the illogical fog of religion, they'd see a more prudent solution would be to ditch the shithole and move onto greener pastures where Islamic fundamentalism isn't threatening them from a stones throw away...a distance that's currently highly feasible to a backwards monotheistic culture that lacks the modern technology and organization to launch an offensive without it being directly next to them.
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You saw what happens when a "weak" President tries to "get along" with islamic countries. Rioting, our embassies attacked in 20 countries, and our ambassador murdered, and rumored tortured. Give us a current example of any islamic leader taking something for peace and "stopping" the aggressions.