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works are required. Period.I didn't say that. Works are the evidence of the salvation. But not the reason for.
you don't NOT earn it eitherExactly.
explainI guess that means they don't believe it is possible to be guided by the Holy Spirit then.
Works are expected as the result of faith. Faith comes first, THEN works, because works without faith is as dead as faith without works. They go together, but faith comes first.works are required. Period.
If people are not careful in the way they word things, they will lead people to think that they don't have to do anything for Christ's Kingdom, just live a materialistic life, live for self primarily, to heck with everyone else and etc... and no problem.. they will get to Heaven. That is heresy and leads people to Hell. Jesus said "few find the Narrow way"
If that were true Catholics wouldn't believe in death bed repentance like we do. Which means the whole works versus grace is a little more complicated than stating works are required period.works are required. Period.
It means understanding of all things comes from the Holy Spirit.explain
We are discussing one of the big differences between Catholics and Protestants and what they believe.you don't NOT earn it either
the whole works thing can be confusing for human beings... non-theologians. But really, it can be understood.. Read Mt 25:31 and James 2:14
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that's a protestant sourceWe are discussing one of the big differences between Catholics and Protestants and what they believe.
How Do Catholics and Protestants Disagree over Salvation &…
Below we’ve briefly engaged their nuanced and thoughtful look at the key differences and agreements between Catholics and Protestants with regards to salvation and justification. This divine initiative applies to both the accomplishment of salvation and to the appropriation of salvation.” (60)…
So is works more important for salvation in the Catholic Church than it is in the Protestant church?that's a protestant source
I trust Catholic sources and not even all of them. I trust Norus Ordo Watch
Well, I think this is kind of a first here at the forum, someone who thinks both Catholic & Prot will get to Heaven. Of course only God knows so one must be carefulSo is works more important for salvation in the Catholic Church than it is in the Protestant church?
I am not arguing which is the right view as I believe both Protestants and Catholics will end up in heaven because they had faith in Christ.
I believe a Protestant Christian will produce good works as a good tree will produce good fruit.
"That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." (Romans 10:9, NIV)
Leave out salvation, as works have nothing to do with salvation and everything to do with the Kingdom of God on earth as it is in heaven. This being the case, are works more important in the Catholic Church than in the Protestant church? Who does more work for the Kingdom of God?So is works more important for salvation in the Catholic Church than it is in the Protestant church?
Interesting question for someone to research. It will be difficult to answer accurately as many donations are made by people that do not involve a church as are many works to improve the lives of those in need.Leave out salvation, as works have nothing to do with salvation and everything to do with the Kingdom of God on earth as it is in heaven. This being the case, are works more important in the Catholic Church than in the Protestant church? Who does more work for the Kingdom of God?
Matthew 25:31-46
I see no reason why people who believe in Jesus and that the only way to go to heaven is through him would be denied that opportunity and sentenced to Hell because of differences in church rituals.Well, I think this is kind of a first here at the forum, someone who thinks both Catholic & Prot will get to Heaven. Of course only God knows so one must be careful
For those who don’t want to take the time to look up verses.you don't NOT earn it either
the whole works thing can be confusing for human beings... non-theologians. But really, it can be understood.. Read Mt 25:31 and James 2:14
This is why I posed the question about peoples acfions over even their belief system per se. Just as Jesus warned "it is not what we put in our mouth) that is important but that which comes out of our mouth"I see no reason why people who believe in Jesus and that the only way to go to heaven is through him would be denied that opportunity and sentenced to Hell because of differences in church rituals.
Humans tend to complicate things by imposing rules and regulations on everything.
As humans when we gain power we love to complicate things. I couldn’t count how many times Christians have told me I was going to Hell for swearing. Yet, there is only one unforgivable sin.This is why I posed the question about peoples acfions over even their belief system per se. Just as Jesus warned "it is not what we put in our mouth) that is important but that which comes out of our mouth"
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