I Think I Will Scream

[ChrisL]

Their threats? How did they threaten an entire class of people? They are no worse than the Westboro Baptists, and it has already been determined that they have the right to say and do what they say and do.

The entire point of Nazism is genocide. What about that do you not get?

And so is Islam. Do you want to ban Islam too?

 

[The Derp]

What about Kathy Griffin's recent display of decapitating Donald Trump? Should that be banned as inciting violence, especially considering all the other "free speech" going on about him colluding with the Russians, being a Russian agent, being a Nazi, being a racist, etc.? Would some not consider these things, using your logic, threats or inciting those who are angry to violence against the president of the United States? The problem with your logic is that a lot of things could be interpreted as "threatening." While I think Kathy Griffin is a douche, she is entitled to be a douche.

Kathy Griffin has nothing to do with Nazis marching in Virginia, inciting violence and killing people.

 

[ChrisL]

What about Kathy Griffin's recent display of decapitating Donald Trump? Should that be banned as inciting violence, especially considering all the other "free speech" going on about him colluding with the Russians, being a Russian agent, being a Nazi, being a racist, etc.? Would some not consider these things, using your logic, threats or inciting those who are angry to violence against the president of the United States? The problem with your logic is that a lot of things could be interpreted as "threatening." While I think Kathy Griffin is a douche, she is entitled to be a douche.

Kathy Griffin has nothing to do with Nazis marching in Virginia, inciting violence and killing people.

It's a valid of example of the other extremist side inciting violence.

 

[ChrisL]

What about Kathy Griffin's recent display of decapitating Donald Trump? Should that be banned as inciting violence, especially considering all the other "free speech" going on about him colluding with the Russians, being a Russian agent, being a Nazi, being a racist, etc.? Would some not consider these things, using your logic, threats or inciting those who are angry to violence against the president of the United States? The problem with your logic is that a lot of things could be interpreted as "threatening." While I think Kathy Griffin is a douche, she is entitled to be a douche.

Kathy Griffin has nothing to do with Nazis marching in Virginia, inciting violence and killing people.

So is it okay for Kathy Griffin to incite violence because you agree with her point of view?

 

[ChrisL]

What if the white supremacists made a show of decapitating a mannequin that was a black person or a Jewish person?

 

[The Derp]

Why should I even watch your video?

Because it will enlighten you as to the people you are defending.

What would have happened in this situation had Antifa not showed up?

The same thing. The crowd that the Nazi drove into were peaceful protesters. Nazis are violence. They need to be pulled out, root and stem. You're too much of a coward to do that so you try and pretend that fascism is free speech. It's not. We fought a war about this. Did you not get that memo?

 

[ChrisL]

Why should I even watch your video?

Because it will enlighten you as to the people you are defending.

What would have happened in this situation had Antifa not showed up?

The same thing. The crowd that the Nazi drove into were peaceful protesters. Nazis are violence. They need to be pulled out, root and stem. You're too much of a coward to do that so you try and pretend that fascism is free speech. It's not. We fought a war about this. Did you not get that memo?

I'm not defending them. I'm defending one of my precious rights. Free speech.

 

[The Derp]

So is it okay for Kathy Griffin to incite violence because you agree with her point of view?

Kathy Griffin has nothing to do with Nazis marching in Virginia, inciting violence and killing people.

 

[jillian]

. . . . if I turn on the TV one more time and hear another minute of wall-to-wall nonstop 24/7 discussion of the most HEINOUS event of the 21st Century! DAYS after the fact . . . .

That President Trump blamed all sides in the violence in Charlottesville.

DAYS LATER, this is still the Number 1 News Story of the World? That Trump didn't denounce Nazism as the FIRST thing he said? Oh wait, he DID. But in doing so, he tried to include ALL forms of hatred and violence and made a call for more peace and unity in the country.

THAT BASTARD.

HE IS NO LEADER OF OURS.

It just amazes me the number of people even on Fox News calling this a moral outrage, complaining about the incessant coverage all the while never stopping talking about it, that all of his people on his manufacturing council for jobs walked out, and that he is now ruined with both his base and the voters. Because he had to SPELL OUT by name in one massive Pavlovian Catharsis that Nazi's aren't the nicest people, and blame them as the only and SOLE reason why a city turned into a mob.

But the city turned into a mob because once again, the police backed off and LET IT HAPPEN. They stood by and WATCHED.

People left and right all across the country and around the world can't trip over their own feet fast enough now in one big ME TOO to make sure they all barf out in genuflection how much they hate Nazis.

Me too!!! Hack! Spit! Ptooey!

Snifff. You can smell the Political Correction in the air, and the FEAR of being DENOUNCED as NOT being politically correct!

THERE'S ONE OVER THERE, BOB! ONE OF THOSE NON-PC PEOPLE! QUICK! GRAB HIM! TIME TO BURN HIM AT THE STAKE! THAT'LL FIX HIM!

But wait: isn't hatred what the Nazis are about? So you HATE the Nazis for HATING?

There is something seriously wrong with the world.

The Nazi's are FULLY ENTITLED to their opinions and views no matter what they are. There are no "conditions" of morality in the Constitution! If you don't agree with them, CHANGE THE FUCKING CHANNEL YOU GOD DAMNED SNOWFLAKE! There is more outrage over this small group of stupid zealot demonstrators than there is for Imams preaching Death to America in mosques all across our country!

The sad fact is that in all of this, Donald Trump is the only one who got it right. The Nazi's HAD A PERMIT to demonstrate and hold a rally there in Charlottesville, the Antifas did not. What did Charlottesville expect they would do--- ---maybe hand out flowers and Bibles? The problem with BOTH they AND the Antifas is that they both use hatred and violence as the tools to their own ends.

The irony is that the Antifas are protesting against fascism, in doing so in the way they do, they actually use the same methods as the very people they are protesting! Fascism!

Why not think of the Nazis and the Antifas both as groups of Love:

The Nazis would love a nation devoid of Blacks, Jews and Christians where only Whites dominate. They are just pissed because that world doesn't exist HERE. Maybe they need to go find an island somewhere.

And the Antifas would love a world free of other people telling you how to live your life and who can be here, by going around telling others how THEY should live and whether they can be here. And beat you with a bat if you don't comply.

And the world looks on and laughs at the madness as America spins and implodes.

did it dawn on you that if even faux news is turning on the orange sociopath and Rupert Murdoch's son donated a million dollars to combat hatred because of him. that maybe you're the problem and not the media?

 

[Slade3200]

You make a fine point but there are lines to be drawn right? I can't put up a billboard of a couple having anal sex while beheading a raccoon next to an elementary school, can I?

Those are actions, not mere words.

Its expression of speech. So your ok with censoring imagery but what comes out of a persons mouth is all good. Is that your position?

I think these are questions you should be asking yourself, no? I'm not the one advocating for suppression of anyone's free speech. That is you and your side of the aisle. Lol.

The fact that I can't put up that billboard is supressiin of speech. The fact that I can put porn or murder in a tv advertisement that gets played on Sesame Street are all regulations around speech. People get arrested all the time for disturbing the peace with inappropriate speech at inappropriate times/places. This is all part of keeping our society at a civil level.

The Nazis "free speech" are direct threats to entire classes of people. Threats that have been acted upon in the past and millions have died.

What about Kathy Griffin's recent display of decapitating Donald Trump? Should that be banned as inciting violence, especially considering all the other "free speech" going on about him colluding with the Russians, being a Russian agent, being a Nazi, being a racist, etc.? Would some not consider these things, using your logic, threats or inciting those who are angry to violence against the president of the United States? The problem with your logic is that a lot of things could be interpreted as "threatening." While I think Kathy Griffin is a douche, she is entitled to be a douche.

Its a good point you make, I think her photo was disgusting. I think when BLM was chanting to kill cops it was disgusting. I think the entire message of these hate groups are disgusting. I think its ok to put limits to what they are allowed to do in public and if they cross the line to provoke threats and violence with their speech then it should be cut off.

 

[The Derp]

What if the white supremacists made a show of decapitating a mannequin that was a black person or a Jewish person?

They already do that. It's kinda what being a Nazi is all about; inciting violence.

 

[jillian]

Why should I even watch your video?

Because it will enlighten you as to the people you are defending.

What would have happened in this situation had Antifa not showed up?

The same thing. The crowd that the Nazi drove into were peaceful protesters. Nazis are violence. They need to be pulled out, root and stem. You're too much of a coward to do that so you try and pretend that fascism is free speech. It's not. We fought a war about this. Did you not get that memo?

I'm not defending them. I'm defending one of my precious rights. Free speech.

you have the right to free speech....

and normal people have the right to laugh at you and hold you accountable

 

[ChrisL]

So is it okay for Kathy Griffin to incite violence because you agree with her point of view?

Kathy Griffin has nothing to do with Nazis marching in Virginia, inciting violence and killing people.

Yes, she is an example of the other side's fringe element doing the same. I want to know if you feel the same about banning free speech for your own side, or just those you don't agree with?

 

[The Derp]

I'm not defending them. I'm defending one of my precious rights. Free speech.

No you're not. You're defending fascism. Fascism is the speech the Nazis were exercising. Fascism is not free speech.

 

[Slade3200]

Liberals are easily triggered.

I see them as the bigger threat than the silly white supremacists.

Whats wrong with you... The silly white supremacists?? Jesus, talk about lack of awareness. Get a clue and perhaps some perspective about what you say.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm not defending them. I'm defending one of my precious rights. Free speech.

No you're not. You're defending fascism. Fascism is the speech the Nazis were exercising. Fascism is not free speech.

No. Fascism is denying people their rights, and especially their right to speak.

 

[ChrisL]

Liberals are easily triggered.

I see them as the bigger threat than the silly white supremacists.

Whats wrong with you... The silly white supremacists?? Jesus, talk about lack of awareness. Get a clue and perhaps some perspective about what you say.

What do you mean? They are a fringe group of whackos. People (except liberals) don't take them seriously.

 

[Slade3200]

Their threats? How did they threaten an entire class of people? They are no worse than the Westboro Baptists, and it has already been determined that they have the right to say and do what they say and do.

The entire point of Nazism is genocide. What about that do you not get?

And so is Islam. Do you want to ban Islam too?

Genocide not the entire point of Islam, not even close... It might be true for ISIS. I can't imagine we would tolerate an ISIS rally in the USA. But it sounds like you would. Is that correct?

 

[The Derp]

Yes, she is an example of the other side's fringe element doing the same.

No, she's not. Your attempt to equate them only legitimizes the tactics and ideology of Nazis, which is not legitimate. That's why I say you defend Nazis.

I want to know if you feel the same about banning free speech for your own side, or just those you don't agree with?

What the Nazis did in Charlottesville was not free speech. It was incitement and they're the ones who killed people.

 

[ChrisL]

Liberals are easily triggered.

I see them as the bigger threat than the silly white supremacists.

Whats wrong with you... The silly white supremacists?? Jesus, talk about lack of awareness. Get a clue and perhaps some perspective about what you say.

The Westboro Baptists hold up signs and chant "death to all fags." The Muslims hold up signs and chant "death to America." This group isn't any different.