I Think My School District Just Turned Me Into A Trump Voter

[Dragonlady]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other fucking candyass motherfucking pussy soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the bitch is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a fucking shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these fucking retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

I have two kids in school and the teachers are terrible. Your case is really awful. I am an Independent but I cannot stand the illogic of the Left. My daughter's friend asked to use the ladies room and the teacher said no, you have to use the gender neutral bathroom because it is closest. Now that bathroom is safe with one toilet and a lock but the girl felt uncomfortable for some reason using a room that boys can use too so she asked to go to the ladies room again and was sent to the prinicipal. That girl's mom went ape nuts. The mom was told her daughter needs sensitivity training. LMAO.

If that was my kid, I would have been livid and that situation is tiny compared to what happened to you. Good luck, sir.

Ok, so that girl has boys/girls rooms at home because she feels uncomfortable using a bathroom that a male has used?

She is 11 and doesn't have brothers. Her mom is divorced. It is just her, her sister and her mom at home.

Ok....I see her discomfort. Have mom explain it to the office and get a nurse's pass.....tho, knowing what happens a lot in the girl's restrooms, I'd sure feel safer in a single restroom with a door lock.

I have never seen that happen in a gender neutral bathroom, and I agree, the girl needs thelp, if she can't use a toilet simply because a boy has used it.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Have you ever seen this map?

This is how COUNTIES voted in 2016. School districts are run locally with county control.......and yet you blame Democrats.

It's not necessarily about Democrats. It's commies.

Teachers' Unions (llike all labor unions) are communist organizations.

Next..

Next is for you to explain in detail your comment that all labor unions are communist organizations.

 

[dblack]

and i don't know who you refer to but it was 'mrobama' running guns into 'mexico' Pogo also in post number 273 .

Post 273 refers to the post it quoted, just like any other post does including this one. And it had nothing to do with "Mexico". It was an observation of the irony that, in an event connected to gun violence in schools, the OP's title suggests he'd vote for an asshat who publicly advocated running guns INTO those same schools, making that threat of gun violence an everyday hair-trigger reality much more than it already is.

I'm guessing it would take more than that for g5000 to actually support Trump. He's making a point about how badly the Democrats are fucking up.

 

[Pogo]

If you read the OP, the teacher didn't even enter into this issue. Go back and read it.

----------------------------------- female assistant principle or some such taxpayer paid problem runs the school , she works for a paycheck and was the cause of the problem Bode .

WAS she? Or are her hands tied by a zero tolerance policy?

There needs to be a zero tolerance for her

Sounds like your beef is with that district's ed code.

It’s more than that, there should be zero tolerance of political correctness

It continues to sail over your head that the statement you just posted here ------ IS "political correctness".

 

[JustAnotherNut]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other fucking candyass motherfucking pussy soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the bitch is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a fucking shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these fucking retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

Since we have no other plan in place to address mental health issues and guns and school shootings, this is the kind of shit that happens.

Teachers are scared and don't know what to do, they just know the federal and state governments aren't behind them.
Just the opposite. Open carry is becoming new law everywhere.

The pendulum never stays in the middle, it always swings from one side to the other.

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that's just too good to let pass by

 

[dblack]

----------------------------------- female assistant principle or some such taxpayer paid problem runs the school , she works for a paycheck and was the cause of the problem Bode .

WAS she? Or are her hands tied by a zero tolerance policy?

There needs to be a zero tolerance for her

Sounds like your beef is with that district's ed code.

It’s more than that, there should be zero tolerance of political correctness

It continues to sail over your head that the statement you just posted here ------ IS "political correctness".

It spoils the fun if you have to explain the joke.

 

[Pogo]

and i don't know who you refer to but it was 'mrobama' running guns into 'mexico' Pogo also in post number 273 .

Post 273 refers to the post it quoted, just like any other post does including this one. And it had nothing to do with "Mexico". It was an observation of the irony that, in an event connected to gun violence in schools, the OP's title suggests he'd vote for an asshat who publicly advocated running guns INTO those same schools, making that threat of gun violence an everyday hair-trigger reality much more than it already is.

I'm guessing it would take more than that for g5000 to actually support Trump. He's making a point about how badly the Democrats are fucking up.

That could be his aim (<< see? another gun reference) but he hasn't explained how Rump, or "Democrats", or "politics", has anything to do with this incident.

Mac1958 tried to imply somewhat the same thing. Again I asked for an explanation and that request too was declined.

I dunno what's hard to understand about the fact that if you can't justify your point maybe you don't have one.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Don't you think that if the federal goverment actually did something to limit access to guns, and reduce people going crazy with weapons, teachers, who seem to be in the line of fire, literally, all too often, might be less nervous?

Any teacher who tells you she/he is nervous about school shootings needs psychiatric treatment or needs to quit listening to gun grabber hysteria.

They are at least 1000x more likely to die on their way to school than to be involved in a school shooting.

Link?

The U.S School Shooting Statistics Everyone Should Know

vs.

Motor vehicle fatality rate in U.S. by year - Wikipedia

Roughly 31 homicides at or traveling between school and home per year verses 37,000 vehicular fatalities.

It's way more than 1000x, apparently.

 

[MisterBeale]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other fucking candyass motherfucking pussy soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the bitch is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a fucking shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these fucking retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

I've had my own dealings with school's & districts over dumb shit very similar to this and even less......so I don't see it as BS. And yes I do call it fighting because that is exactly what it is...…..as a parent who's child is singled out for disciplinary action over some made up infraction because it's viewed as some threat by some ninny and the parent is then engaged in a fight with the school and district for their kid's rights.


You'll find out soon enough what I'm talking about.


And I don't know that I'd agree that the OP is attention whoring.....cause I don't think he'd ever say he'd vote for Trump in a million years....even if it was a joke.

Been there done that. Trump has nothing to do with it as he doesn’t make any school districts policy for them. There is a process. A process run by them, and the OP has already acted out side that by stalking and intimidating the principal. He even posted it up on social media for Christ sakes. This is fake.

It is possible that the OP's previous encounters with the school is why his kid was suspended and not his friend, if his friend hasn't had a problem previously. But any previous conduct by either the school, the OP or his kid(s)…….shouldn't play a part in whatever actions were taken here....yet that's how schools do play the game...….
Whether this particular event actually occurred????? Who knows, but it's made for some great megabyte discussion/debate as to how kids are treated in schools and what parents are faced with in trying to get their kids educated in a system that can and will suspend someone over finger guns vs making a clock bomb...……..pure idiocy

In my experience it takes aloooooooot to get to a point where a principal puts a kid out of school and won’t allow the back without conditions. Google up any school hand book from any school USA and look. It’s not real easy to kick a kid out of school or suspend them. There has to be a dang good reason.

So tell me...…...would a pen that exploded ink all over the desk and carpet mean aloooooooot? Ya know, because of 'destruction of school property' and all.....and even the teacher admitted that it was an accident.

Yes, my kid was 'suspended' for the rest of the day

Could be. And you are lucky you didn’t have to pay for damages. Sucks, but there are rules.

Sure there's rules.....but without willful intent AND an admitted accident....suspension shouldn't have been part of it. Paying for damages.....maybe.

 

[Pogo]

Don't you think that if the federal goverment actually did something to limit access to guns, and reduce people going crazy with weapons, teachers, who seem to be in the line of fire, literally, all too often, might be less nervous?

Any teacher who tells you she/he is nervous about school shootings needs psychiatric treatment or needs to quit listening to gun grabber hysteria.

They are at least 1000x more likely to die on their way to school than to be involved in a school shooting.

Link?

The U.S School Shooting Statistics Everyone Should Know

vs.

Motor vehicle fatality rate in U.S. by year - Wikipedia

Roughly 31 homicides at or traveling between school and home per year verses 37,000 vehicular fatalities.

It's way more than 1000x, apparently.

So you're ass-suming every teacher drives to their work huh?

 

[Foxfyre]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other fucking candyass motherfucking pussy soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the bitch is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a fucking shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these fucking retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

I have two kids in school and the teachers are terrible. Your case is really awful. I am an Independent but I cannot stand the illogic of the Left. My daughter's friend asked to use the ladies room and the teacher said no, you have to use the gender neutral bathroom because it is closest. Now that bathroom is safe with one toilet and a lock but the girl felt uncomfortable for some reason using a room that boys can use too so she asked to go to the ladies room again and was sent to the prinicipal. That girl's mom went ape nuts. The mom was told her daughter needs sensitivity training. LMAO.

If that was my kid, I would have been livid and that situation is tiny compared to what happened to you. Good luck, sir.

It is stories like yours and the OPs that convinces me that if my kids were still school age, there is no way in hell I would put them in most pubic schools these days. The ones that are still educating kids with real subjects and content are few and far between. Most do much more indoctrinating than educating. I would figure out some way to stay home full time and home school them.

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

 

[bodecea]

Have you ever seen this map?

This is how COUNTIES voted in 2016. School districts are run locally with county control.......and yet you blame Democrats.

It's not necessarily about Democrats. It's commies.

Teachers' Unions (llike all labor unions) are communist organizations.

Next.

.

So you are calling all teachers commies.....because teachers' unions are made up of teachers.

 

[MisterBeale]

I don’t see voting for trump helping.

President's influence the larger culture.

They always have, they always will.

 

[dblack]

and i don't know who you refer to but it was 'mrobama' running guns into 'mexico' Pogo also in post number 273 .

Post 273 refers to the post it quoted, just like any other post does including this one. And it had nothing to do with "Mexico". It was an observation of the irony that, in an event connected to gun violence in schools, the OP's title suggests he'd vote for an asshat who publicly advocated running guns INTO those same schools, making that threat of gun violence an everyday hair-trigger reality much more than it already is.

I'm guessing it would take more than that for g5000 to actually support Trump. He's making a point about how badly the Democrats are fucking up.

That could be his aim (<< see? another gun reference) but he hasn't explained how Rump, or "Democrats", or "politics", has anything to do with this incident.

Are you kidding? Trump's strongest appeal is that he calls bullshit in this kind of crap. He does it with a sledgehammer that's arguably worse than what he's criticizing. But his perceived willingness to name it, to push back on government micro-management of society, is why working class voters support him. Wake the fuck up. Or your going to lose another election.

 

[Dragonlady]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other fucking candyass motherfucking pussy soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the bitch is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a fucking shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these fucking retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

I have two kids in school and the teachers are terrible. Your case is really awful. I am an Independent but I cannot stand the illogic of the Left. My daughter's friend asked to use the ladies room and the teacher said no, you have to use the gender neutral bathroom because it is closest. Now that bathroom is safe with one toilet and a lock but the girl felt uncomfortable for some reason using a room that boys can use too so she asked to go to the ladies room again and was sent to the prinicipal. That girl's mom went ape nuts. The mom was told her daughter needs sensitivity training. LMAO.

If that was my kid, I would have been livid and that situation is tiny compared to what happened to you. Good luck, sir.

It is stories like yours and the OPs that convinces me that if my kids were still school age, there is no way in hell I would put them in most pubic schools these days. The ones that are still educating kids with real subjects and content are few and far between. Most do much more indoctrinating than educating. I would figure out some way to stay home full time and home school them.

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

While I agree with your goals for education, I disagree that public schools are "indoctrinating" anyone. When the right wants to destroy a public institution, they start by casting it as some sort of liberal bastion out to destroy the country. The current vilification of the public school system is entirely reasonable, on the grounds that they are not providing a quality education, but not on the grounds that it's liberal indoctrination.

There has been a lot of criticism with the last few school shooters that these guys were giving off signals and everyone ignored them until too late. This thread is complaining that nobody can joke about school shootings at school any more. No they can't. Such jokes, all too often, turn out to be the precursor to actual shootings which are in no way funny.

So how do we know who to take seriously and who is "just joking"? How is the teacher to know?

 

[MisterBeale]

guns were taken to school in my day in the 60s and 70s either in car . pickup or school bus and all kids in my society had them for the most part . [mostly .22 rifles with the big azz stuff and shotguns at home] ----------------- just a comment .

Oh bullshit. That didn't happen.

Posted this before but there was ONE (1) occasion where a kid brought firearms to my high school, and the school administration freaked the fuck out. He got suspended. Or maybe expelled, not sure.

This was the same kid who a few years before was the only one who stepped forward when we took a class trip to a museum and they showed us a flintlock and offered to let us handle it. He was the only one interested, and he seemed very interested. That's just observation on my part, but the dots connect.

Yeah, actually they did.

My dad still has the hunting rifle he used to take to school and then go hunting with.

They had hunting clubs in high schools.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other fucking candyass motherfucking pussy soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the bitch is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a fucking shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these fucking retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

I have two kids in school and the teachers are terrible. Your case is really awful. I am an Independent but I cannot stand the illogic of the Left. My daughter's friend asked to use the ladies room and the teacher said no, you have to use the gender neutral bathroom because it is closest. Now that bathroom is safe with one toilet and a lock but the girl felt uncomfortable for some reason using a room that boys can use too so she asked to go to the ladies room again and was sent to the prinicipal. That girl's mom went ape nuts. The mom was told her daughter needs sensitivity training. LMAO.

If that was my kid, I would have been livid and that situation is tiny compared to what happened to you. Good luck, sir.

It is stories like yours and the OPs that convinces me that if my kids were still school age, there is no way in hell I would put them in most pubic schools these days. The ones that are still educating kids with real subjects and content are few and far between. Most do much more indoctrinating than educating. I would figure out some way to stay home full time and home school them.

No one should put their kids in public school if they are unhappy with the local district. Home schooling and private schooling are totally legal options. Keep in mind that public schools have to be everything to everyone......they are the default position originally created to educate the children of those farmers and factory workers who could not afford private schools or tutors.

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

While I agree with your goals for education, I disagree that public schools are "indoctrinating" anyone. When the right wants to destroy a public institution, they start by casting it as some sort of liberal bastion out to destroy the country. The current vilification of the public school system is entirely reasonable, on the grounds that they are not providing a quality education, but not on the grounds that it's liberal indoctrination.

I know in MA 90% of teachers are Leftists. Cannot speak for other states.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Don't you think that if the federal goverment actually did something to limit access to guns, and reduce people going crazy with weapons, teachers, who seem to be in the line of fire, literally, all too often, might be less nervous?

Any teacher who tells you she/he is nervous about school shootings needs psychiatric treatment or needs to quit listening to gun grabber hysteria.

They are at least 1000x more likely to die on their way to school than to be involved in a school shooting.

But, the propaganda persists because you can't get communism if the people can resist.

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Schools are rightly or wrongly (I believe rightly) doing active shooter drills. Of course these creates some anxiety in students and staff.

Any teacher, staffer, student or administrator who is not concerned with guns on campus is a liar or a fool, IMO.

Agreed. But it hardly justifies the nonsense in the OP.

"If you see something ... dismiss it, it's none of your business?

 

[bodecea]

The OP is attention whoreing. He has already admitted that he has intimidated the principal and has been heralding her as well. Not only her, but the super Intendant as well. Honestly, this seems way the hell out there. Matter of fact, it reaks of bull shit. If you cal that fighting, then I just don’t know what to say. School policy is school policy.

I've had my own dealings with school's & districts over dumb shit very similar to this and even less......so I don't see it as BS. And yes I do call it fighting because that is exactly what it is...…..as a parent who's child is singled out for disciplinary action over some made up infraction because it's viewed as some threat by some ninny and the parent is then engaged in a fight with the school and district for their kid's rights.


You'll find out soon enough what I'm talking about.


And I don't know that I'd agree that the OP is attention whoring.....cause I don't think he'd ever say he'd vote for Trump in a million years....even if it was a joke.

Been there done that. Trump has nothing to do with it as he doesn’t make any school districts policy for them. There is a process. A process run by them, and the OP has already acted out side that by stalking and intimidating the principal. He even posted it up on social media for Christ sakes. This is fake.

It is possible that the OP's previous encounters with the school is why his kid was suspended and not his friend, if his friend hasn't had a problem previously. But any previous conduct by either the school, the OP or his kid(s)…….shouldn't play a part in whatever actions were taken here....yet that's how schools do play the game...….
Whether this particular event actually occurred????? Who knows, but it's made for some great megabyte discussion/debate as to how kids are treated in schools and what parents are faced with in trying to get their kids educated in a system that can and will suspend someone over finger guns vs making a clock bomb...……..pure idiocy

In my experience it takes aloooooooot to get to a point where a principal puts a kid out of school and won’t allow the back without conditions. Google up any school hand book from any school USA and look. It’s not real easy to kick a kid out of school or suspend them. There has to be a dang good reason.

So tell me...…...would a pen that exploded ink all over the desk and carpet mean aloooooooot? Ya know, because of 'destruction of school property' and all.....and even the teacher admitted that it was an accident.

Yes, my kid was 'suspended' for the rest of the day

wasn't there, but I sure remember students in my day playing with their pens and breaking them on purpose getting ink everywhere.