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I want it back: it was Camelot

The Democrat motto used to be "Ask not what the country can do for you, but what you can do for your country".

Now it's "The Country owes me."

Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
-- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Khalil Gibran published the saying in his 1925 work titled "The New Frontier", Thirty-six years before President Kennedy's 1961 Inaugural Address

JFK, had a good speechwriter, Ted Sorenson ( not Ted Kennedy :eusa_whistle: ) who studied the speeches of many famous former leaders, and together they made some very effective speeches. JFK could really deliver.
 
Read my sig- Stuff you don't know, BS you do...Pub dupes.

WHEN did Obama refer to ENEMIES?

What DPP? IDOCY! There's Pub propaganda, and there's the REST of the world...duh.

when he told the Latino audience out here that Republicans are your enemies.....he could have said that different Frankie....if he had any leadership skills he would have....

He was just telling it like it is. Here is a clip of some friendly repugs.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGo1-EVrsx8]Mars Attacks! [Don't run, we are your friends] - YouTube[/ame]

telling it like it is?.....a "leader" does not alienate half the people he is supposed to be "leading".....unless he ...
A-has piss poor leadership skills or....
B- he only sees himself as the "leader" of only those who follow him.....
which is it?.....i go with A.....
 
Compared to all Pub dupes, Lakota and I, etc, are like geniuses LOL And that's not a conspiracy EITHER.


thats why both of you get so much respect,right?.......both of you have no rep.....if you two are such Geniuses, the Dem/Libs here with lots of rep, would be repping you two enough that you would show something......you also dont get thanked alot Frankie.....and you dont seem to do any thanking yourself....could it be because not to many....including your fellow Libs....think you are a joke?.....:dunno:
 
If Jack Kennedy were around today, the lefties would be calling him an old white reactionary.

No I think he would be pretty pissed off at Republicans bearing signs that read, "Bury Obamacare with Kennedy." Refering to his brother who died of brain cancer.:(
 
when he told the Latino audience out here that Republicans are your enemies.....he could have said that different Frankie....if he had any leadership skills he would have....

He was just telling it like it is. Here is a clip of some friendly repugs.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGo1-EVrsx8]Mars Attacks! [Don't run, we are your friends] - YouTube[/ame]

telling it like it is?.....a "leader" does not alienate half the people he is supposed to be "leading".....unless he ...
A-has piss poor leadership skills or....
B- he only sees himself as the "leader" of only those who follow him.....
which is it?.....i go with A.....

With "loyal opposition" like the Repugs, who openly undermine, oppose, disparage, and obstruct anything and everything he tries to accomplish - who needs enemies? It isn't poor leadership skills. Repugs simply won't accept that Obama is the duly elected leader.
 
He was just telling it like it is. Here is a clip of some friendly repugs.

Mars Attacks! [Don't run, we are your friends] - YouTube

telling it like it is?.....a "leader" does not alienate half the people he is supposed to be "leading".....unless he ...
A-has piss poor leadership skills or....
B- he only sees himself as the "leader" of only those who follow him.....
which is it?.....i go with A.....

With "loyal opposition" like the Repugs, who openly undermine, oppose, disparage, and obstruct anything and everything he tries to accomplish - who needs enemies? It isn't poor leadership skills. Repugs simply won't accept that Obama is the duly elected leader.

bullshit...Clinton had plenty of opposition from those asswipes and he managed to keep the gap between the 2 parties from splintering like this guy and Bush have let happen....Bush and Obama are the first 2 Presidents that i have experienced that seemed to be just talking to the People who support them,everyone else ....fuck you.... that's ...piss poor leadership skills.....

. Repugs simply won't accept that Obama is the duly elected leader.

what does that mean?....that everyone is supposed to follow the guy even if you don't want what he wants?......just let him decide?....that's what guys like Franco and Lakota do....and the hacks on the right did it with Bush....
 
telling it like it is?.....a "leader" does not alienate half the people he is supposed to be "leading".....unless he ...
A-has piss poor leadership skills or....
B- he only sees himself as the "leader" of only those who follow him.....
which is it?.....i go with A.....

With "loyal opposition" like the Repugs, who openly undermine, oppose, disparage, and obstruct anything and everything he tries to accomplish - who needs enemies? It isn't poor leadership skills. Repugs simply won't accept that Obama is the duly elected leader.

bullshit...Clinton had plenty of opposition from those asswipes and he managed to keep the gap between the 2 parties from splintering like this guy and Bush have let happen....Bush and Obama are the first 2 Presidents that i have experienced that seemed to be just talking to the People who support them,everyone else ....fuck you.... that's ...piss poor leadership skills.....

. Repugs simply won't accept that Obama is the duly elected leader.

what does that mean?....that everyone is supposed to follow the guy even if you don't want what he wants?......just let him decide?....that's what guys like Franco and Lakota do....and the hacks on the right did it with Bush....

Were you alive during the Clinton administration? Republicans tried to destroy his presidency just like they are trying to destroy Obama's presidency. They put his entire life under a microscope and endless investigations. Then they impeached him. If anything, they were even bigger assholes then, if that is even possible.

What I mean is that Repugs need to let the man do his job. They don't like his proposals? Fine, vote against them, but at least let things come up for a vote. It would be nice if they would work on jobs like they promised to do instead of devote all their time and energy in muckraking, investigating, and naysaying.
 
I want people back that I knew as Democrats. I want good men and women who believed in chasing a dream. I want my liberals back.

I want Camelot not Communist dreams. I want real hope and change not dime store bullies from Chicago.

I want the real deal.

Here you go...
Another over rated big spender, only with a flag in the background to emphasize his patriotism. I couldn't find one with Jerry Falwell and the flag with The Icon.
One important difference is that IF Kennedy HAD told war stories they would have been about his actual experience, instead of made up from movies like the ones Reagan told European heads of state.
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OP- It IS back- too bad the dupes get all their "news" from the 24/7 doom and gloom, fear mongering Pub Propaganda machine and the "no compromise, un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME)...The diff between the GOP under Clinton and now is they WOULD compromise a bit back then- now they won't vote for their own ideas if they might help.

They'll get their reward next year, when ACA will make it obvious Pubs are total hypocrites, people haters, and whackjobs...
 
I want people back that I knew as Democrats. I want good men and women who believed in chasing a dream. I want my liberals back.

I want Camelot not Communist dreams. I want real hope and change not dime store bullies from Chicago.

I want the real deal.


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I was alive back then..

And back folks like you were calling John F. Kennedy a communist that took orders from the Pope.

Not much has changed.

You folks still have some really disgusting views.
 
I want people back that I knew as Democrats. I want good men and women who believed in chasing a dream. I want my liberals back.

I want Camelot not Communist dreams. I want real hope and change not dime store bullies from Chicago.

I want the real deal.

I was alive back then..

And back folks like you were calling John F. Kennedy a communist that took orders from the Pope.

Not much has changed.

You folks still have some really disgusting views.

When Kennedy stole Cicero's "Ask not..." horseshit, my thought was 'What more do you want from people who won two world wars and survived people like his father causing a depression?' Still, Kennedy spent less tax money on a real crisis with Russians than Reagan spent on shoeshines in his terms.

And you are absolutely correct about the contemporaneous Republiscum view of Kennedy. My first hearing of political hate was Republiscum who fought WWII from the home front talking about decorated war hero Kennedy being weak on communism and a socialist.

Their chickenhawk children and grandchildren did the same thing to Kerry. Despite my being well to the right of nutball white trash on fiscal issues, there is no question who flushed The Dream down the drain. Republiscum big spenders and the proof is in looking at growth of debt during presidential terms.

And the filthy cocksuckers blame congress. Now look at them. Bright children would be embarrassed by the hypocrisy - by the blatant double standard.
 
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I want people back that I knew as Democrats. I want good men and women who believed in chasing a dream. I want my liberals back.

I want Camelot not Communist dreams. I want real hope and change not dime store bullies from Chicago.

I want the real deal.


John_F__Kennedy-2.jpg

I was alive back then..

And back folks like you were calling John F. Kennedy a communist that took orders from the Pope.

Not much has changed.

You folks still have some really disgusting views.

I was alive back then too. I was a mega lib. Hell's bells as a teenager I campaigned for Pierre Elliot Trudeau. Farther left than any President you've had.

So you can go fuck yourself because I wasn't part of "people like you". I admired the Kennedys greatly at the time. JFK was inspiring.

My family was so smitten with the Kennedys that on every trip back from Florida we made the annual pilgrimage to Arlington so my family could weep at their graves.

Never a fan of Teddy's but Bobby was my favorite.

I still don't understand how any self respecting Democrat could admire Bill or Bernadine who dedicated Prairie Fire to among others Sirhan Sirhan Bobby's assassin.
 
I want people back that I knew as Democrats. I want good men and women who believed in chasing a dream. I want my liberals back.

I want Camelot not Communist dreams. I want real hope and change not dime store bullies from Chicago.

I want the real deal.


John_F__Kennedy-2.jpg

I was alive back then..

And back folks like you were calling John F. Kennedy a communist that took orders from the Pope.

Not much has changed.

You folks still have some really disgusting views.

I was alive back then too. I was a mega lib. Hell's bells as a teenager I campaigned for Pierre Elliot Trudeau. Farther left than any President you've had.

So you can go fuck yourself because I wasn't part of "people like you". I admired the Kennedys greatly at the time. JFK was inspiring.

My family was so smitten with the Kennedys that on every trip back from Florida we made the annual pilgrimage to Arlington so my family could weep at their graves.

Never a fan of Teddy's but Bobby was my favorite.

I still don't understand how any self respecting Democrat could admire Bill or Bernadine who dedicated Prairie Fire to among others Sirhan Sirhan Bobby's assassin.

Save your horseshit for the fields.
 

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