I was wrong.

[Truth1253]

I am black

And so? You're still wrong.

No you’re wrong brotha I’m from New Orleans and the last thing am worried about is a white man. I have a 2000 time more chance of being killed by these crazy XXXXX out here.Just keeping it a 100.

No, I'm not wrong. And whites are 6 times more likely to be killed by another white. So if you're keeping it 100 you understand that and if you are black and intelligent you understand what the confederate flag stands for. Other than that you show me that you suffer from internalized racism.

I’m from the South and live in the country 60 miles outside NOLA. My mother moved us out the city because the neighborhood was running wild. Now it’s a war zone. We live a good life now blacks and whites get along here just fine. Polite towards one another and our community helps one another. Country blacks and city blacks are definitely different and I’m a Conservative and not a slave to the Democrat plantation called the city.

Yep...
The blacks I grew up were southern to the bone.
We all had the same values and interests. Were there cases of racism? Sure there were but they were few and far between.

It’s true we’re all polite, we all get hot and he all like to fish. It works.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You act just like the fucking commies when you do that. Engage. Don't shout down.

IM2 is not an enemy. He is your fellow countryman. He has a complaint. Where is the nationalism?

.

how am i acting like a fucking commie when i ask how ??? he may be my fellow countryman but i am not his ...and weaklings like you are the ones giving these white and black white guilt merchants power !! leftist power .

How am I giving power to him by listening? He is giving me equal power.

If you don't think he acts like your fellow countryman, tell him why. I know what he will say about you.

I am only interested in justice and fairness.

I am really only interested in equal liberty. THIS:

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." —Thomas Jefferson

We can't get there if a good chunk of our population is still suffering the effects of NOT following the above principle.

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think about that the next time you threaten report someone hypocrite .

When did I threaten to report anyone?

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Affirmative Action-for whites post #9

Oh, you mean on the other thread, where the guy didn't respond to the topic? The one were it was the 2nd time around where the first thread was locked because of all the off-topic bullshit?

That one?

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[Third Party]

You know what? I have been wrong.

The civil rights act was signed over 50 years ago. Certainly in 50 years we should have been able to catch up with whites. There are far too many black women left out there alone. Far too many of us black men spend our days playing dominos and drinking when we should be with our kids. As men we could save the black community by getting married. We could teach our kids how to act which would decrease violence in our community.

We have had ample chances over the past 54 years but instead of taking advantage of the many opportunities America provides, we have wasted our time and money in a doped up drunken stupor while letting our communities become crumbled down cesspools of crime and instead of taking responsibility, we blame whites.

So after all these discussions I have learned at lot and the fact is you guys were right. Now don't conflate this to mean I am going to join the republican party and suppport Trump.

Your're always wrong.

 

[IM2]

Who do you think I am?

IM2 and I disagree on things quite frequently. I am simply pointing out the "go back to Africa" bit is completely destructive.

.

ok ...how is it destructive .

You act just like the fucking commies when you do that. Engage. Don't shout down.

IM2 is not an enemy. He is your fellow countryman. He has a complaint. Where is the nationalism?

.

how am i acting like a fucking commie when i ask how ??? he may be my fellow countryman but i am not his ...and weaklings like you are the ones giving these white and black white guilt merchants power !! leftist power .socialist power ,and one day a communist dictatorship ! look at all the shit they are banning in the name of racism !

Guilt merchant? Wow, you are really a mental case.

Let me put it to you this way:

You want to talk about what you didn't do so you shouldn't be made to feel guilty. But you are here as a result of the past. As you want to deny the current problem, you let it continue. So you are doing exactly what many whites did in the past.

And exactly what has been banned in the name of racism?

no hes saying that anyplace where whites have any influence is racist !!...was that to harsh for you ???? do i need to tone it down ???? are you triggered ???? i am trying to be nice and gentle so as not to offend your refined delicate sensibilities >>

Who do you think I am?

IM2 and I disagree on things quite frequently. I am simply pointing out the "go back to Africa" bit is completely destructive.

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ok ...how is it destructive .

You act just like the fucking commies when you do that. Engage. Don't shout down.

IM2 is not an enemy. He is your fellow countryman. He has a complaint. Where is the nationalism?

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Blacks don't get to be part of the nationalism unless we do as whites want. That is what this thread has proven.

When I wrote the OP, people were patting me on the back and cheering because I was saying what they needed to hear. It doesn't matter if it is true or not. But when that changed, suddenly I'm dog whistling for the extermination of white people. You are looking at the Teflon theory Bootney. And in high def.

no !! what you originally wrote was the truth !! drinking,drugging t[so called thugging ] absent fathers ect .... and most of all the absolute refusal to take responsibility for your own actions and blaming whitey is the problem with people like you !

No. What I wrote was what you want to believe. I knew if I did this most everybody would run to me in agreement. The only people here not taking responsibility are those like you. I'm black OK? I don't need you to be telling me what blacks call things. The root cause of the problem blacks face is white racism.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

How am I giving power to him by listening? He is giving me equal power.

If you don't think he acts like your fellow countryman, tell him why. I know what he will say about you.

I am only interested in justice and fairness.

I am really only interested in equal liberty. THIS:

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." —Thomas Jefferson

We can't get there if a good chunk of our population is still suffering the effects of NOT following the above principle.

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think about that the next time you threaten report someone hypocrite .

When did I threaten to report anyone?

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Affirmative Action-for whites post #9

Oh, you mean on the other thread, where the guy didn't respond to the topic? The one were it was the 2nd time around where the first thread was locked because of all the off-topic bullshit?

That one?

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did you or didnt you report him you commie bitch !

First off, you are probably way more of an authoritarian ass than I will EVER be, so cut the commie bullshit with me.

It was the 2nd thread on the same topic because assholes were fucking up the discussion. All that content is now it two separate places, and everything is fucked up.

Was it wrong for me to ask the mods to jump on the thread immediately to prevent yet another thread from becoming so fucked up that it too gets locked?

You tell me. Was that shouting down? Was that attempting to stop open discussion?

.

 

[IM2]

You know what? I have been wrong.

The civil rights act was signed over 50 years ago. Certainly in 50 years we should have been able to catch up with whites. There are far too many black women left out there alone. Far too many of us black men spend our days playing dominos and drinking when we should be with our kids. As men we could save the black community by getting married. We could teach our kids how to act which would decrease violence in our community.

We have had ample chances over the past 54 years but instead of taking advantage of the many opportunities America provides, we have wasted our time and money in a doped up drunken stupor while letting our communities become crumbled down cesspools of crime and instead of taking responsibility, we blame whites.

So after all these discussions I have learned at lot and the fact is you guys were right. Now don't conflate this to mean I am going to join the republican party and suppport Trump.

Your're always wrong.

Lol! Too bad for you this is not true.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You know what? I have been wrong.

The civil rights act was signed over 50 years ago. Certainly in 50 years we should have been able to catch up with whites. There are far too many black women left out there alone. Far too many of us black men spend our days playing dominos and drinking when we should be with our kids. As men we could save the black community by getting married. We could teach our kids how to act which would decrease violence in our community.

We have had ample chances over the past 54 years but instead of taking advantage of the many opportunities America provides, we have wasted our time and money in a doped up drunken stupor while letting our communities become crumbled down cesspools of crime and instead of taking responsibility, we blame whites.

So after all these discussions I have learned at lot and the fact is you guys were right. Now don't conflate this to mean I am going to join the republican party and suppport Trump.

That took some courage..and enlightment is good

 

[IM2]

You know what? I have been wrong.

The civil rights act was signed over 50 years ago. Certainly in 50 years we should have been able to catch up with whites. There are far too many black women left out there alone. Far too many of us black men spend our days playing dominos and drinking when we should be with our kids. As men we could save the black community by getting married. We could teach our kids how to act which would decrease violence in our community.

We have had ample chances over the past 54 years but instead of taking advantage of the many opportunities America provides, we have wasted our time and money in a doped up drunken stupor while letting our communities become crumbled down cesspools of crime and instead of taking responsibility, we blame whites.

So after all these discussions I have learned at lot and the fact is you guys were right. Now don't conflate this to mean I am going to join the republican party and suppport Trump.

That took some courage..and enlightment is good

No. It took the understanding that this is what whites like you want and need to hear. Even if it's not true.

 

[Third Party]

You know what? I have been wrong.

The civil rights act was signed over 50 years ago. Certainly in 50 years we should have been able to catch up with whites. There are far too many black women left out there alone. Far too many of us black men spend our days playing dominos and drinking when we should be with our kids. As men we could save the black community by getting married. We could teach our kids how to act which would decrease violence in our community.

We have had ample chances over the past 54 years but instead of taking advantage of the many opportunities America provides, we have wasted our time and money in a doped up drunken stupor while letting our communities become crumbled down cesspools of crime and instead of taking responsibility, we blame whites.

So after all these discussions I have learned at lot and the fact is you guys were right. Now don't conflate this to mean I am going to join the republican party and suppport Trump.

Your're always wrong.

Lol! Too bad for you this is not true.

So whites were right and you learned from us? Atta boy!

 

[Third Party]

You know what? I have been wrong.

The civil rights act was signed over 50 years ago. Certainly in 50 years we should have been able to catch up with whites. There are far too many black women left out there alone. Far too many of us black men spend our days playing dominos and drinking when we should be with our kids. As men we could save the black community by getting married. We could teach our kids how to act which would decrease violence in our community.

We have had ample chances over the past 54 years but instead of taking advantage of the many opportunities America provides, we have wasted our time and money in a doped up drunken stupor while letting our communities become crumbled down cesspools of crime and instead of taking responsibility, we blame whites.

So after all these discussions I have learned at lot and the fact is you guys were right. Now don't conflate this to mean I am going to join the republican party and suppport Trump.

That took some courage..and enlightment is good

No. It took the understanding that this is what whites like you want and need to hear. Even if it's not true.

He's a street hustler at heart.

 

[yidnar]

think about that the next time you threaten report someone hypocrite .

When did I threaten to report anyone?

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Affirmative Action-for whites post #9

Oh, you mean on the other thread, where the guy didn't respond to the topic? The one were it was the 2nd time around where the first thread was locked because of all the off-topic bullshit?

That one?

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did you or didnt you report him you commie bitch !

First off, you are probably way more of an authoritarian ass than I will EVER be, so cut the commie bullshit with me.

It was the 2nd thread on the same topic because assholes were fucking up the discussion. All that content is now it two separate places, and everything is fucked up.

Was it wrong for me to ask the mods to jump on the thread immediately to prevent yet another thread from becoming so fucked up that it too gets locked?

You tell me. Was that shouting down? Was that attempting to stop open discussion?

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you reported the guy because you didnt like his actions [speech] you said when did i report someone and i answered .... you are a liar and a pussy ! i have never reported anyone on this thread no matter how much i didnt like what they were posting or the way they were posting ... you are nothing more that a white guilt ridden pussy and a leftist !

 

[Third Party]

you reported the guy because you didnt like his actions [speech] you said when did i report someone and i answered .... you are a liar and a pussy ! i have never reported anyone on this thread no matter how much i didnt like what they were posting or the way they were posting ... you are nothing more that a white guilt ridden pussy and a leftist !

Bitch...FUCK YOU!

I told you why I reported his thread-derailing ass. I reported him to STOP him from getting another thread LOCKED and SHUTTING DOWN THE DISCUSSION!!!

If you don't want to accept it, you can kiss my white ass.

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Send me a picture first! Sorry, I could not resist that.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

I’ve always maintained that people represent themselves. Your OP was entertaining. The fact that people fell for it, is ridiculous. I’ve been married too long, and don’t believe I’ve ever heard those words. If any whites are affiliated with white supremacy, (which is an oxymoron) they deserve whatever disrespect, hate, and bad karma the universe has to offer. A lot of people haven’t had any education regarding racism, so a different perspective isn’t a bad thing. You do get a lot of straight up disrespect from a lot of people on these forums. I’m happy with my interactions with people. That being said, I will continue to break balls from time to time. I can’t lie.


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[Weatherman2020]

Men take responsibility for their lives.

Children do nothing but blame others .

And whites like you are children.

I run my own business, my employees like me, I am content with my life and reasonably successful. I take responsibility for my life and work, and don't whine all the time about my lot in life by blaming others.

You and I are very different.

I helped build 3 organizations and retired 6 years ago at age 52. And I did so while facing white racism every step of the way. You've done nothing. You are nothing. I fight white racism, number 1, because I was blessed by god to be able to accomplish what I have so I am required to do something for those not similarly blessed. Number 2, I don't want another young black adult to have to struggle against what I had to in order to get here. You and other whites here like you make dumb ass ignorant assertions about people when you need to learn how to shut your white racist asses up and listen.

I am taking responsibility. You are the one whining and blaming. Besides, this isn't about blame you stupid bastard. It's about truth. And you can't handle the truth.

I helped build 3 organizations and retired 6 years ago at age 52.

Well, at least we can understand your belief you’re oppressed by your skin color now...

I have been held down by every company I ever worked for. They didn't see how great I was. So they either didn't promote me or they fired me. And still despite all that I managed to make it too. Why did they discriminate against me? I'm short

Short People: It's a Tough Life

Agreed, it’s the world, Mr Randy Newman. Good looking well built people get dibs. We all deal with the cards we’ve been dealt and move forward. I know a woman that due to a physical condition her face is horribly disfigured. How do I know her? She volunteers in public to help kids in need.

 

[yidnar]

I’ve always maintained that people represent themselves. Your OP was entertaining. The fact that people fell for it, is ridiculous. I’ve been married too long, and don’t believe I’ve ever heard those words. If any whites are affiliated with white supremacy, (which is an oxymoron) they deserve whatever disrespect, hate, and bad karma the universe has to offer. A lot of people haven’t had any education regarding racism, so a different perspective isn’t a bad thing. You do get a lot of straight up disrespect from a lot of people on these forums. I’m happy with my interactions with people. That being said, I will continue continue to break balls from time to time. I can’t lie.


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you will never ever get what you want punk.

Behold, the guilty little white kid who can't control his emotions.


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behold the guilt ridden limp wristed leftist apologist Bootliker Snigglefuck .

 

[Olde Europe]

Blaming it on all current white people would be my disagreement with IM2, if that is what he has done.

I see automatic defensiveness when there is no cause for such. It's not personal. You are not the immediate target of the allegations of systemic white racism.

But, then you see people respond to it with "go back to Africa, quit raping, and quit murdering." Tell me. Does that racial bigotry label fit?



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That racial bigotry label most assuredly does fit.

And yes, blaming "it", systemic racism, on practically every white person is perfectly valid. Whoever enjoys their White privilege, and isn't even aware of it, does not protest it, neither protests the voter roll purges targeting black communities, whoever doesn't muster whatever energy they have to oppose the blight racism in business and the justice system wreaks on society, is at the very least complicit. There is no escaping the verdict. Just as bystanders to the Nazi crimes, who remained mum when their Jewish neighbors were hauled off, were still complicit. Also no escaping that verdict, and they faced personal danger just opening their mouth.

That said, Bootney, I actually thought you're a raving loon with no redeeming qualities. Yet, you've been doing yourself proud on this thread. I still disagree in substantial part, but... So, you've shown me to be wrong, and I thank you for that.

You're still a raving lunatic, but hey, I'll resume mostly scrolling past your rants. Not all, though, there might even be a nugget somewhere.

 

[Truth1253]

IM2 it’s said you went through life with a invisible white foot on your neck and didn’t accomplish what you where always capable of.

 

[Gracie]

Y'all knew he was a snake when you picked him up. So why the surprise he bit you....again?

 

[DOTR]

Men take responsibility for their lives.

Children do nothing but blame others .

And whites like you are children.

I run my own business, my employees like me, I am content with my life and reasonably successful. I take responsibility for my life and work, and don't whine all the time about my lot in life by blaming others.

You and I are very different.

Yes and your life experiences are different too. If you grew up in Detroit you have a much different experience than a person who grew up on 6 and evergreen in Detroit. How do I know? I grew up there and then I moved to a nice neighborhood. I see the difference in how a young poor black man in Detroit grows up compared to a middle class white kid in Metro Detroit.

And like me, maybe you got out of poverty and a bad neighborhood. But still, don't forget you were white. That made moving and finding a job much easier. Did your parents help you pay for college? Or are you intelligent like lets say, Ben Carson? It's easy for Ben to tell poor blacks he made it. He also had the brains to become a neurosurgeon. I could never do that. I'm not smart enough. What Ben doesn't realize is not everyone in Detroit is a brain surgeon. How do we improve the lives of the masses, not just our most intelligent and talented citizens. They have no problem getting out of the hole they started out in.

I spent the first 6 years of my life in a small cabin at a logging camp 20 miles from any services. We had electricity and running water, but no t.v., dishwasher or washer and dryer. Everything had to be done by hand .my sister and I both had two or three toys, but not much beyond that.

When I was 6 we moved to a small town and then another soon after that. My father worked hard, did not blame others for anything and gradually moved up the ranks.


I graduated high school with the second highest SAT in a class of 450, which gained me entry to most any University I wanted . I worked fighting fires each summer to earn the money necessary.

Anything more you wish to know, just ask .

A. How many blacks were hired at your daddy's shop? I bet it was all white. And if it wasn't, it was the exception not the norm in America. So your white privileged.

B. You are a Ben Carson. You got the second highest SAT score in the class. How did the other 400 students do? And were they all white? I went to an all white high school. Most of us found good jobs with or without college. Why? Our daddies and neighbors got them jobs. Blacks in poor neighborhoods aren't as privileged as we are. My family is so grateful we left Detroit. No way I would have gone off to college had I went to a Detroit Public School. No way my brother would have got a masters from MSU and become a VP of a fortune 500 company if we stayed in that Detroit Public School.

C. Many blacks work hard and are not moved up in the ranks. Why? Because they aren't white. They aren't part of the good old boys network. Now this, I don't think us whites should have to give this up. If I work at a company, I should be able to hook my son up with a job. But this is why I believe in diversity programs and affirmative action.

Did you grow up fatherless? Just a question.

 

[Yarddog]

You know what? I have been wrong.

The civil rights act was signed over 50 years ago. Certainly in 50 years we should have been able to catch up with whites. There are far too many black women left out there alone. Far too many of us black men spend our days playing dominos and drinking when we should be with our kids. As men we could save the black community by getting married. We could teach our kids how to act which would decrease violence in our community.

We have had ample chances over the past 54 years but instead of taking advantage of the many opportunities America provides, we have wasted our time and money in a doped up drunken stupor while letting our communities become crumbled down cesspools of crime and instead of taking responsibility, we blame whites.

So after all these discussions I have learned at lot and the fact is you guys were right. Now don't conflate this to mean I am going to join the republican party and suppport Trump.

That took some courage..and enlightment is good

No. It took the understanding that this is what whites like you want and need to hear. Even if it's not true.

I guess thats why it sounded a bit sarcastic coming from you, but i was giving it the benefit of the doubt. Actually I didn't actually agree with your opening statement, as black society in the US has been slowed down by racism as well as other factors.
Of course you should note poor whites who also have suffered from generational poverty, dwarfs poor blacks living in poverty, as there are 5 times as many white people. Why is it that poor whites haven't advanced after all these years? is it because of racism or other factors of living in a large country?
I think one of the problems the black community has is that, once being in poverty and grouped together in large urban areas, its extremely tougher to break the cycle and when people there do become successful, they probably leave to go to somewhere more affluent. And that only makes sense, however for every person who leaves, probably 5 more are born back into the same environment keeping a large group all in one area who are struggling.
In one of my previous posts I was talking about perceptions, both of how whites and other races view blacks and of how black people view themselves I think the speed of which the black communities are going to advance has a lot to do with that self perception and what people believe of themselves in their mind. The same exact thing is true for poor whites who never get out of that cycle. They see themselves as a certain way and often times are perfectly fine with staying in that comfort zone even if it means remaining in poverty.
The encouraging thing is that African American College degrees are at an all time high, and more and more African American kids are going to college. I'm sure that will translate into greater wealth and then generational wealth as well as time goes on and the trend continues.