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Probably and probably not. In all he was very hostile and he coul've killed the cops, punching them is an assault....many people die from a good knockout.I have a hard time beleiving that theory, given what's going on the cops would be foolish to wanting to take his life from just a DUI stop. Everything was evident from all angles, the guy made the wrong move. I hate to see people die, but he made the situation deadly not the cops. He punched a cop, reached for his gun/taser.That may be true but he also could have been fighting for his own life. We dont know what made him go from being compliant to trying to get away. Cops could have said something or looked at him a certain way that made him fear for his life even after he had cooperated. I dont think some of you guys really understand the shit cops do to Black people when there are no cameras to catch them.You are right...but the guy showed disregard to human life by putting everyone's life in danger including himself. All he had to do is cooperate.Cops are not allowed to kill someone because they could've done something. If that was the case they could just pull you over and shoot you in the face because you couldve had a gun and was going to kill them.He could've killed both of them. He tried to get the guns but luckily he got the taser. Besides he was behind the wheels and he couldve killed innocent people while driving. I just can't find excuses for his behavior, he put many lives in danger including his.Once he resisted arrest...the police were correct to retaliate to subdue the suspect. Once he took their weapon...he earned his shooting. You don't get to do that.Different story.What if the cop threatens your life or family but claims you attacked him for no reason?I am anti guns, anti cons and and anti trump....you break the law, punch a cop and threaten their life, you deserve everything that happens to you.There are differences between the George Floyd case and the Brooks case.
The latter grabbed the cop's taser and punched the cop in the face.
Did anyone here ever think that punching a cop in the face works result in a low chance of being killed by that cop?
People are not supposed to attack cops.
If I'm a cop and a man is trying to arrest takes my taser and punches me, it's on.
And I'm a Democrat.
All I saw is a violent person trying to harm 2 police officers and if he reached their guns he was gonna use it...I'm sorry but I cant support that kind of behavior and I'm super anti gun and pro banning guns altogether and join the civilised world.
Did you see the video about how it all started? One cop wanted to deescalate - but the other one didn't. Rayshard Brooks was very respectful in the beginning. After what recently happened with George Floyd - no wonder he became excited and scared.
We strongly disagree on that. He didn't deserve to die.
He took the taser out of the cop's hand. He never reached for a gun.
So are we.The push back to your push back is going to frighten you. This I can guarantee you. We are done fucking around.So your claim is that everyone else is insane? OK good luck with that.I know. However, he was fired and about to be charged so obviously my feelings and opinions are in line with the law.Your feelings and opinions are not the law.Zero. Cops shouldnt be breaking the law or abusing people at all.Great. So a drunk person rolls up into a drive through and passes out. How many people can dui people kill? So along come the police wake him up, talk sweetly to him. Ask if he’s willing to take a field sobriety test, he says yes. He fails. Cops say you are to much under the influence to drive tonight, so they move to take him into custody, a battle ensues, he snatches a taser and hauls ass firing it at the police. How much abuse and lawbreaking are you people willing to take? Huh?
no---your feelings and opinions are in line with the current wave of insanity and hysteria sweeping the
nation. You would have done well in WOODSTOCK
1969 too ----and for that matter at my alma mater
in Newark circa 1967 when race riots tore a lovely
city to pieces. You are nothing new and neither are the animals ripping monuments to pieces------you are like the REDUVID BUGS-------you HAPPEN periodically completely thoughtlessly
Interesting insight. Just as "sane" as were the 1960s age of acid heads and endless riots. Give it time----
the push back is going to startle you
begin your push back and lets see who is prepared to bleed the most.So are we.The push back to your push back is going to frighten you. This I can guarantee you. We are done fucking around.So your claim is that everyone else is insane? OK good luck with that.I know. However, he was fired and about to be charged so obviously my feelings and opinions are in line with the law.Your feelings and opinions are not the law.Zero. Cops shouldnt be breaking the law or abusing people at all.Great. So a drunk person rolls up into a drive through and passes out. How many people can dui people kill? So along come the police wake him up, talk sweetly to him. Ask if he’s willing to take a field sobriety test, he says yes. He fails. Cops say you are to much under the influence to drive tonight, so they move to take him into custody, a battle ensues, he snatches a taser and hauls ass firing it at the police. How much abuse and lawbreaking are you people willing to take? Huh?
no---your feelings and opinions are in line with the current wave of insanity and hysteria sweeping the
nation. You would have done well in WOODSTOCK
1969 too ----and for that matter at my alma mater
in Newark circa 1967 when race riots tore a lovely
city to pieces. You are nothing new and neither are the animals ripping monuments to pieces------you are like the REDUVID BUGS-------you HAPPEN periodically completely thoughtlessly
Interesting insight. Just as "sane" as were the 1960s age of acid heads and endless riots. Give it time----
the push back is going to startle you
And we have better guns!!!
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Oh is that the problem that bad cops have? They're so focused on what could happen that they're unable to process the actual reality as it unfolds before their eyes?Oh so you forgot the struggle where he could have grabbed his partners gun?Because they previously frisked him and found no weapons and he acquired the taser by taking it from one of the officers.is the cop a mind reader? How does he know that’s not a colt 45?Yea just let the guy run in a parking list with a gun lolI wouldn't vote to convict the cop who shot Rayshard Brooks of murder
After watching all the videos several times - I strongly disagree! There was no need to shoot him twice in the back as he ran away. The cops already had possession of his car, keys, and driver's license. The cops could have easily deescalated the situation and rounded him up later. The one cop seemed reasonable - but the killer cop was an asshole.
What gun? He had already fired the taser over the cop's head. Don't they have to be reloaded?
But that didn't happen.Creating a situation where the police officers life is in danger particularly the part where the officer is incapacitated and the criminal can grab his gun, is life-threatening, JUSTIFYING DEADLY FORCE!!!!!
Brooks didn't have a deadly weapon and if he did and had fired on the officers they would have been perfectly within their rights to return fire, however that was not the case. Instead he had a taser which he fired at one of the officers and missed and was attempting either to increase the distance between himself and the officers or escape them entirely.How about when the guy fleeing arrest turns and fires at the cop?Cops are not supposed to kill people by shooting them in the back while they're running away.People are not supposed to attack cops.
Brooks didn't have a deadly weapon and if he did and had fired on the officers they would have been perfectly within their rights to return fire, however that was not the case. Instead he had a taser which he fired at one of the officers and missed and was attempting either to increase the distance between himself and the officers or escape them entirely.How about when the guy fleeing arrest turns and fires at the cop?Cops are not supposed to kill people by shooting them in the back while they're running away.People are not supposed to attack cops.
With very few exceptions it is not lawful to shoot someone in the back if they're attempted to get away from you because legally you're only allowed to use deadly force to STOP an imminent threat of grievious bodily harm or death. A person running away from you no longer poses an imminent threat and that's why you're not allowed to shoot them.
The range on a taser is approximately 10 feet. Since he was running away from them and he had already fired the taser the weapon was effectively useless at that point. Unless he had a supply of cartridges on hand at home or where ever he was planning on running off to, the taser was no more useful than a paperweight to him.The way this has been presented to me is it the guy was running off with a weapon. I've heard new facts that he already fired that weapon. If that's the case and the cops shot him anyway, you have a good point.
Cops cannot let people run off a deadly weapons when that person has done so while resisting arrest. Far too many other people get hurt when that happens.
I don't know where Pollyanna grew up and lives but down in Florida during Spring Break the police have to deal with drunk and belligerent teenagers and college kids, many of whom resist arrest yet somehow the police manage not to shoot and kill them.Again I have no idea what youre talking about. They guy was running away. He was no where near the cops gun.As I said, the end result of this thing is questionable at the very least. It looks like there was no danger or threat to anyone but the cop shot anyway.Dont know what that has to do with what happened here. They guy was nowhere near the cops gun when he was shot.At what point does the cop have to decide that wrestling around with somebody who is resisting arrest presents a danger to the cops life with the cops gone being within arms reach?Only if they resist to the point that its deadly like I pointed out earlier.
Every citizen must understand, and it is a standard by which every citizen is obligated to behave, that resisting arrest is a deadly proposition.
What is the point of resisting arrest? Answer me that one.
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If every citizen believed that then there would be no need for the cops. There would be no crime so please spare me the bullshit.
You tell me. Some cops say you are resisting just because youre protecting yourself from getting your ass beat.
What I'm talking about, is when the police officer goes to put the restraints on a person and that person starts fighting and wrestling, do you not see the immediate, highly dangerous, deadly situation with the cops gun being within arms length?
What you were saying is that you want it both ways. You want citizens to be able to resist without risk. You want cops to bear 100% of the risk while citizens can act a fool and bear no risk.
That is bullshit.
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Nope. I am saying that as a cop you should expect people to resist. Thats why you are trained to handle those situations. As a cop youre the professional not the citizen.
The only other problem is the guy was a convicted violent felon facing a lot more time. Such a person is very dangerous to society because he has pretty much nothing to lose. They cannot just let such a person escape and hope he doesn't kill innocent people out of desperation before they can catch him again.The range on a taser is approximately 10 feet. Since he was running away from them and he had already fired the taser the weapon was effectively useless at that point. Unless he had a supply of cartridges on hand at home or where ever he was planning on running off to, the taser was no more useful than a paperweight to him.The way this has been presented to me is it the guy was running off with a weapon. I've heard new facts that he already fired that weapon. If that's the case and the cops shot him anyway, you have a good point.
Cops cannot let people run off a deadly weapons when that person has done so while resisting arrest. Far too many other people get hurt when that happens.
You are a punk just like that cop.
I was taught at a young age that you don’t start a fight you can’t or aren’t willing to do whatever is necessary to win. No Marquee de Queensbury rules either.
Most tasers will still work at close range even after being fired and some tazers have multiple shots loaded in them without the need to reload. Does anyone actually know what piece of equipment was used?The range on a taser is approximately 10 feet. Since he was running away from them and he had already fired the taser the weapon was effectively useless at that point. Unless he had a supply of cartridges on hand at home or where ever he was planning on running off to, the taser was no more useful than a paperweight to him.The way this has been presented to me is it the guy was running off with a weapon. I've heard new facts that he already fired that weapon. If that's the case and the cops shot him anyway, you have a good point.
Cops cannot let people run off a deadly weapons when that person has done so while resisting arrest. Far too many other people get hurt when that happens.
I tried to find out exactly which taser the Atlanta PD uses but was not able to find it easily enough.Most tasers will still work at close range even after being fired and some tazers have multiple shots loaded in them without the need to reload. Does anyone actually know what piece of equipment was used?The range on a taser is approximately 10 feet. Since he was running away from them and he had already fired the taser the weapon was effectively useless at that point. Unless he had a supply of cartridges on hand at home or where ever he was planning on running off to, the taser was no more useful than a paperweight to him.The way this has been presented to me is it the guy was running off with a weapon. I've heard new facts that he already fired that weapon. If that's the case and the cops shot him anyway, you have a good point.
Cops cannot let people run off a deadly weapons when that person has done so while resisting arrest. Far too many other people get hurt when that happens.
From what I have seen (and we all have limited info here) I do not think I would be able to convict either. That does not bode well for a jury.
You watch too much crime TV. And I noticed that ALL of you always throw in the adjective "violent" when discussing black people. I can't recall any of you ever using such descriptors when discussing the cases of white mass shooters, generally the killer is described as "mentally ill" as opposed to "violent".The only other problem is the guy was a convicted violent felon facing a lot more time. Such a person is very dangerous to society because he has pretty much nothing to lose. They cannot just let such a person escape and hope he doesn't kill innocent people out of desperation before they can catch him again.The range on a taser is approximately 10 feet. Since he was running away from them and he had already fired the taser the weapon was effectively useless at that point. Unless he had a supply of cartridges on hand at home or where ever he was planning on running off to, the taser was no more useful than a paperweight to him.The way this has been presented to me is it the guy was running off with a weapon. I've heard new facts that he already fired that weapon. If that's the case and the cops shot him anyway, you have a good point.
Cops cannot let people run off a deadly weapons when that person has done so while resisting arrest. Far too many other people get hurt when that happens.
It's not just white people DeShawn. People the world over know that those from sub-Saharan African origin are not only limited in intelligence, but the most violent in the world. It seems to go hand-in-hand.I would ask why that is, except I know it's part of the white racist psyche propaganda to portray black people, particularly black men as inherently violent and criminally inclined.
Do you all ever look at any of your own people?
