If God Doesn’t Exist

[Weatherman2020]

If God doesn’t exist, the universe came into existence by chance, the first living cell developed from non-living matter by chance, and all living things are the eventual product of the blind, undirected process of evolution. In such a case, human life is no more valuable than dust, and there is no basis for saying that any life matters. Only if there is an author of life who creates and imbues us with a meaning greater than our physical parts can lives actually matter, and in an equal way.

If God doesn’t exist, there’s also no objective standard for labeling an action—such as murder—wrong. If we’re all just the product of blind, purposeless forces, morality is just an opinion. Unless there is a higher-than-human moral authority, no one has a basis for claiming that murder is objectively wrong.

And finally, if God doesn’t exist, the concept of justice is meaningless because there can be no right or wrong in the first place to require justice. As C.S. Lewis famously said about his conversion to Christianity, “My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?” Justice requires a standard, and there is no objective standard in a purposeless universe.

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[aaronleland]

As sentient beings we know what's right and wrong, and it can differ based on religion, culture, etc. No God is required to acknowledge that hurting another human being is wrong.

 

[toobfreak]

If God doesn’t exist, the universe came into existence by chance

Even if the universe came into being by probability wave, there is still a God. God is the original cause behind everything. If that cause was a probability wave, then that is God. Something caused that probability wave to exist, something created that there was a probability, and something created waves. That's God.

There is no escaping God only denying the personal aspect of Him. Athiests who deny the personal aspect and claim personality, love and intelligence came out of chance are merely accepting the Impersonal nature of God, even if they don't realize, accept or wish to say so.

 

[alang1216]

If God doesn’t exist, the universe came into existence by chance, the first living cell developed from non-living matter by chance, and all living things are the eventual product of the blind, undirected process of evolution. In such a case, human life is no more valuable than dust, and there is no basis for saying that any life matters. Only if there is an author of life who creates and imbues us with a meaning greater than our physical parts can lives actually matter, and in an equal way.

If God doesn’t exist, there’s also no objective standard for labeling an action—such as murder—wrong. If we’re all just the product of blind, purposeless forces, morality is just an opinion. Unless there is a higher-than-human moral authority, no one has a basis for claiming that murder is objectively wrong.

And finally, if God doesn’t exist, the concept of justice is meaningless because there can be no right or wrong in the first place to require justice. As C.S. Lewis famously said about his conversion to Christianity, “My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?” Justice requires a standard, and there is no objective standard in a purposeless universe.

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You're pretty much correct. The universe (the one we have, not the one we want) is proof that God doesn't exist.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You're pretty much correct. The universe (the one we have, not the one we want) is proof that God doesn't exist.

Glad you’ll have no problem with people you know being shot.

 

[Weatherman2020]

As sentient beings we know what's right and wrong, and it can differ based on religion, culture, etc. No God is required to acknowledge that hurting another human being is wrong.

Atoms that make up our bodies will still exist. Murder is acceptable.

 

[aaronleland]

Atoms that make up our bodies will still exist. Murder is acceptable.

We create our own standards for what is acceptable based on where we are from. Did God decide that stoning women in Saudi Arabia for being raped was acceptable only in that country?

 

[JoeB131]

If God doesn’t exist, the universe came into existence by chance, the first living cell developed from non-living matter by chance, and all living things are the eventual product of the blind, undirected process of evolution. In such a case, human life is no more valuable than dust, and there is no basis for saying that any life matters. Only if there is an author of life who creates and imbues us with a meaning greater than our physical parts can lives actually matter, and in an equal way.

If God doesn’t exist, there’s also no objective standard for labeling an action—such as murder—wrong. If we’re all just the product of blind, purposeless forces, morality is just an opinion. Unless there is a higher-than-human moral authority, no one has a basis for claiming that murder is objectively wrong.

And finally, if God doesn’t exist, the concept of justice is meaningless because there can be no right or wrong in the first place to require justice. As C.S. Lewis famously said about his conversion to Christianity, “My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?” Justice requires a standard, and there is no objective standard in a purposeless universe.

Your whole premise is that there must be a sky pixie for their to be morality.

Murder is wrong because it takes life from another person. It wasn't your life to take. No need for a Sky Pixie to make that so.

People thought murder was wrong long before most of them started believing in Jehovah, who was only a regional tribal god before 1700 years ago.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Your whole premise is that there must be a sky pixie for their to be morality.

Murder is wrong because it takes life from another person. It wasn't your life to take. No need for a Sky Pixie to make that so.

People thought murder was wrong long before most of them started believing in Jehovah, who was only a regional tribal god before 1700 years ago.

Morality is subjective without a God determining the basis. Stalin was just as moral as you are.

 

[occupied]

Look at the natural world. It's a place of tooth and claw and cold-blooded murder. There is no good or bad, just brutal biological necessity. This was the garden of Eden that birthed mankind. It is man that brought purpose to existence and through the millennia has refined morality to the point that religon is no longer needed to provide social structure. If God ever did anything it was to create us into a world full of senseless brutality. it was us, not him, that turned chaos into order.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

As sentient beings we know what's right and wrong, and it can differ based on religion, culture, etc. No God is required to acknowledge that hurting another human being is wrong.

So Hitler was right after all.
Killing your child, if you "choose" is right too.
Ted Bundy, was right too
All the white kids stompped to death by the Amish, that wa good and right too.

Idiot!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Morality is subjective without a God determining the basis. Stalin was just as moral as you are.

This is why it is so easy for leftists to slip into communism, socialism, fascism and anarchy

 

[Moonglow]

Morality is subjective without a God determining the basis. Stalin was just as moral as you are.

More absurdities.

 

[Moonglow]

This is why it is so easy for leftists to slip into communism, socialism, fascism and anarchy

There is religion in all of the forms of govt. you mentioned, now Marxism has some serious issues with religion. Anarchy is not a form of nationalized govt.

 

[Crepitus]

If God doesn’t exist, the universe came into existence by chance, the first living cell developed from non-living matter by chance, and all living things are the eventual product of the blind, undirected process of evolution. In such a case, human life is no more valuable than dust, and there is no basis for saying that any life matters. Only if there is an author of life who creates and imbues us with a meaning greater than our physical parts can lives actually matter, and in an equal way.

If God doesn’t exist, there’s also no objective standard for labeling an action—such as murder—wrong. If we’re all just the product of blind, purposeless forces, morality is just an opinion. Unless there is a higher-than-human moral authority, no one has a basis for claiming that murder is objectively wrong.

And finally, if God doesn’t exist, the concept of justice is meaningless because there can be no right or wrong in the first place to require justice. As C.S. Lewis famously said about his conversion to Christianity, “My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?” Justice requires a standard, and there is no objective standard in a purposeless universe.

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Culture is influencing the church's response more than the church is influencing culture.

christianmomthoughts.com

Cool straw man.

Waste of time though

 

[aaronleland]

So Hitler was right after all.
Killing your child, if you "choose" is right too.
Ted Bundy, was right too
All the white kids stompped to death by the Amish, that wa good and right too.

Idiot!

I'm talking about actual people. Leave the Amish out of it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Cool straw man.

Waste of time though

Yes, morality is a waste of time to you Leftists.

 

[Crepitus]

Yes, morality is a waste of time to you Leftists.

Not morality, Son.

Your post.

 

[Weatherman2020]

More absurdities.

You think Stalin thought he was immoral?

 

[Moonglow]

You think Stalin thought he was immoral?

Yes, he did and admitted it himself...