if not evolution

[Hollie]

if you don't believe in evolution, then you must believe a fully formed man just appeared/etc?
is this correct?

I've never completely understood the mutually exclusive thought process.

On one hand, if you believe that animals evolve, that somehow excludes that a greater being set that evolution in motion.

On the other hand, if you believe in creationism, somehow that excludes animal evolution?

They can go hand in hand.

What am I missing here?

There is no such thing as evolution. What most people think of as evolution is actually called adaptation. This is the process of expressing genetic traits that already exist in DNA. But it's not evolution. In fact, adaptive traits can revert to what they were before. They are not permanent. As far as DNA becoming more complex by adding new information, it has never been observed to happen. There is no scientific theory of HOW it could even happen. Evolution is a fairy tale for grownups.

There is a reason why people are pointing and laughing.

 

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Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

 

[G.T.]

"I smoke ciggs cuz I consider life as precious" - dingerred, on the internet

 

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Alexander Solzhenitsyn explains why militant atheism leads to communism.

"...As humanism in its development was becoming more and more materialistic, it also increasingly allowed concepts to be used first by socialism and then by communism, so that Karl Marx was able to say, in 1844, that "communism is naturalized humanism."

This statement has proved to be not entirely unreasonable. One does not see the same stones in the foundations of an eroded humanism and of any type of socialism: boundless materialism; freedom from religion and religious responsibility (which under Communist regimes attains the stage of antireligious dictatorship); concentration on social structures with an allegedly scientific approach. (This last is typical of both the Age of Enlightenment and of Marxism.) It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. At first glance it seems an ugly parallel: common traits in the thinking and way of life of today's West and today's East? But such is the logic of materialistic development.

The interrelationship is such, moreover, that the current of materialism which is farthest to the left, and is hence the most consistent, always proves to be stronger, more attractive, and victorious. Humanism which has lost its Christian heritage cannot prevail in this competition. Thus during the past centuries and especially in recent decades, as the process became more acute, the alignment of forces was as follows: Liberalism was inevitably pushed aside by radicalism, radicalism had to surrender to socialism, and socialism could not stand up to communism...."

Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Harvard Address

 

[G.T.]

"everything is relative" - ding, 2017

"ha ha ha moral relativist" - ding, 2017

 

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According to the University of Cambridge, historically, the "most notable spread of atheism was achieved through the success of the 1917 Russian Revolution, which brought the Marxist-Leninists to power."

Marxism - Investigating Atheism

 

[Hollie]

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

A lot of people are tired around here, but I'm not sure they're ready to lie down, stretch out and fall asleep. —Jim Jones.

 

[G.T.]

"i herp a derp about atheism while conversing with agnostics and tie it all in with marx on the internet when Im butthurt and dont know what im on about" - #dingerred perpetually triggered

 

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Vladimir Lenin confirms Solzhenitsyn's assessment... "A Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could."

Lenin: The Attitude of the Workers' Party to Religion

 

[G.T.]

"i read a lot of marx in my spare time, between ciggs and being collectivist with the church."

-dingenstein the dingerred, 2008

 

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There really is no better witness on communism than Alexander Solzhenitsyn. He lived through it, read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies and wrote eight volumes on the subject. Given all that and confirmation by the founding fathers of communism and history, there is zero doubt that militant atheism leads to communism.

“More than half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: ‘Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.’”

“Since then I have spent well-nigh fifty years working on the history of our Revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval...But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous Revolution that swallowed up some sixty million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.’”

“Templeton Lecture, May 10, 1983,” in The Solzhenitsyn Reader: New and Essential Writings, 1947-2005, eds. Edward E. Ericson, Jr. and Daniel J. Mahoney (Wilmington, DE: Intercollegiate Studies Institute, 2006), 577

 

[G.T.]

"i copy paste on the internet when i cant form complete thoughts on my own...they said it so much better! puffffff."

- #dingerred

 

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In 1955, Chinese communist leader Zhou Enlai declared, "We Communists are atheists"

Noebel, David, The Battle for Truth, Harvest House, 2001.

 

[Hollie]

In 1955, Chinese communist leader Zhou Enlai declared, "We Communists are atheists"

Noebel, David, The Battle for Truth, Harvest House, 2001.

Marshall Applewhite called. He has your travel itinerary.

 

[G.T.]

"i fill my time reading propoganda, and then sprinting to the internet to prove my poor understanding. fakk, i need a cigg." - dingerred the cuck, 2001 post 9/11

 

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And here we see China affirming Solzhenitsyn's assessment and Vladimir Lenin's statement that communism is based on dialectic materialism. In fact, he says there is no other way for it to be. Which is perfectly consistent with what Marx and Lenin said.

China’s Communist Party Reaffirms Marxism, Maoism, Atheism, Thursday, 20 November 2014

"The Communist Party of China (CPC) is letting its members know that the party’s official adherence to militant atheism has not changed; Party members are not allowed to be Christians, or to hold any other religious beliefs. That is the clear message sent by a top Party official in an editorial published on November 14 in the Global Times, the international version of People’s Daily, the official newspaper and mouthpiece of the CPC.

The editorial, written by Zhou Weiqun, chairman of the Committee on Ethnic and Religious Affairs of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, blasted Chinese academics who suggest that Communist Party members can also adhere to any religion. This prohibition against religion has been a “consistently upheld principle” since Mao Zedong, the founder of the People’s Republic of China, declared Zhou. “It’s impossible to have another choice besides the dialectical materialist worldview.”..."

China’s Communist Party Reaffirms Marxism, Maoism, Atheism

 

[G.T.]

Atheism and Communism, cuz we conflate our Epistemology with our preferred method of Government.

Or, its a nice bow tie for our Dingist Marxist Propoganda cultivator 6, 000

 

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Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

A lot of people are tired around here, but I'm not sure they're ready to lie down, stretch out and fall asleep. —Jim Jones.

Jim Jones was an atheist and a communist.

 

[G.T.]

Im thinking a communist had his way with #dingerred in the woods, hence the melty copy pasta

 

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History has recorded that there has never been a communist state that wasn't a militant atheistic state. Not one. Statements from Russian and Chinese leaders admit that militant atheism is required for communism.