Iraq is imploding. Should we lend air support or wash our hands?

[oldunclemark]

Ignore them....

Continuing to intervene...will require that we continue to intervene.

Our misrakdes was to e,liminate Sadaam who never allowed Al Queda in..

But we need to cut our losses...Its, at its base, not about us

I have mixed feelings on this.

On one hand the middle east is a cesspool of savages and I just wish they would all kill each other off.

On the other hand do we stand by and let these savages gain control of a nation from which they would gain military assets to use against us?

Ignoring them won't make them leave us alone so whats the solution?

 

[Kondor3]

even Iran is coming into the fray

"Iran is coming to the aid of its historic nemesis, sending elite fighters to Iraq in the wake of a Sunni insurgency that has claimed two key northern cities and now threatens Baghdad, Fox News has learned.

Some 150 fighters from the Revolutionary Guards elite Quds force have already been dispatched by Tehran, and the division's powerful commander, Qassem Suleimani, met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki Thursday and pledged to send two notorious Iranian brigades to aid in the defense of Baghdad. That could amount to as many as 10,000 soldiers sent to fight the Sunni group known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS)."

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And Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. McCain says act, Boehner says we should have acted sooner. A few tea party aligned say STAY OUT. Catch-22.

Obama says Iraq going to need more help - CNN.com

Obumble is not an effective nor credible Wartime President.

 

[paulitician]

even Iran is coming into the fray

"Iran is coming to the aid of its historic nemesis, sending elite fighters to Iraq in the wake of a Sunni insurgency that has claimed two key northern cities and now threatens Baghdad, Fox News has learned.

Some 150 fighters from the Revolutionary Guards elite Quds force have already been dispatched by Tehran, and the division's powerful commander, Qassem Suleimani, met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki Thursday and pledged to send two notorious Iranian brigades to aid in the defense of Baghdad. That could amount to as many as 10,000 soldiers sent to fight the Sunni group known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS)."

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And Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. McCain says act, Boehner says we should have acted sooner. A few tea party aligned say STAY OUT. Catch-22.

Obama says Iraq going to need more help - CNN.com

Obama's biggest mistake was not listening to Putin and Russia in reference to Syria. Putin warned him not to fund & arm very questionable Rebel groups there. But Obama became so gung-ho in getting rid of Assad. He didn't listen. The Blow Back on that is happening now.

The groups are connected and are Al Qaeda-linked. It was a huge blunder on his part. If not for Putin and Russia, these brutal Terrorist groups would have already taken Syria. Putin was right, our Government should just admit that and stop supporting these animals.

 

[oldunclemark]

..and what ever they say now..they will flip once action is taken..
How much do we care if Baghdad is in turmoil..there are more than 2 sides

even Iran is coming into the fray

"Iran is coming to the aid of its historic nemesis, sending elite fighters to Iraq in the wake of a Sunni insurgency that has claimed two key northern cities and now threatens Baghdad, Fox News has learned.

Some 150 fighters from the Revolutionary Guards elite Quds force have already been dispatched by Tehran, and the division's powerful commander, Qassem Suleimani, met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki Thursday and pledged to send two notorious Iranian brigades to aid in the defense of Baghdad. That could amount to as many as 10,000 soldiers sent to fight the Sunni group known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS)."

link

And Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. McCain says act, Boehner says we should have acted sooner. A few tea party aligned say STAY OUT. Catch-22.

Obama says Iraq going to need more help - CNN.com

 

[blackhawk]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

We will watch it fall President Obama has made it clear he won't get involved in a military way in the Middle East or anywhere else.

Another campaign promise kept!

Or a brilliant display naivety.

 

[oldunclemark]

even Iran is coming into the fray

"Iran is coming to the aid of its historic nemesis, sending elite fighters to Iraq in the wake of a Sunni insurgency that has claimed two key northern cities and now threatens Baghdad, Fox News has learned.

Some 150 fighters from the Revolutionary Guards elite Quds force have already been dispatched by Tehran, and the division's powerful commander, Qassem Suleimani, met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki Thursday and pledged to send two notorious Iranian brigades to aid in the defense of Baghdad. That could amount to as many as 10,000 soldiers sent to fight the Sunni group known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS)."


And Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. McCain says act, Boehner says we should have acted sooner. A few tea party aligned say STAY OUT. Catch-22.

Obumble is not an effective nor credible Wartime President.

..and Bush was, for sure[/SIZE]

The Bush-Cheney legacy continues

 

[dilloduck]

The Bush-Cheney legacy continues

Obama is such a loser that he has no clue how to respond ? What about all the campaign promises. Only the inadequate blame others for their shortcomings.

 

[Plasmaball]

This is precisely what the Twelvers have been trying to stir up in Iraq.

what?

 

[Peach]

Any reason to think the liberals won't just pull us out before the war's over, again?

Again? We left a couple of years ago. When did we 'go in'.....hmmmmmm.....................the nation has been at war, now we critique?

 

[dilloduck]

even Iran is coming into the fray

"Iran is coming to the aid of its historic nemesis, sending elite fighters to Iraq in the wake of a Sunni insurgency that has claimed two key northern cities and now threatens Baghdad, Fox News has learned.

Some 150 fighters from the Revolutionary Guards elite Quds force have already been dispatched by Tehran, and the division's powerful commander, Qassem Suleimani, met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki Thursday and pledged to send two notorious Iranian brigades to aid in the defense of Baghdad. That could amount to as many as 10,000 soldiers sent to fight the Sunni group known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS)."

link

And Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. McCain says act, Boehner says we should have acted sooner. A few tea party aligned say STAY OUT. Catch-22.

Obama says Iraq going to need more help - CNN.com

Well welcome to the big league Obama-----this ain't Chicago.

 

[tinydancer]

Ignore them....

Continuing to intervene...will require that we continue to intervene.

Our misrakdes was to e,liminate Sadaam who never allowed Al Queda in..

But we need to cut our losses...Its, at its base, not about us

I have mixed feelings on this.

On one hand the middle east is a cesspool of savages and I just wish they would all kill each other off.

On the other hand do we stand by and let these savages gain control of a nation from which they would gain military assets to use against us?

Ignoring them won't make them leave us alone so whats the solution?

To allow Baghdadi and his terrorist army to seize and plunder Baghdad would be pure idiocy on our part.

We're just begging for all hell to be unleashed on us if we let that happen. As it is by taking Mosul's banks they are now the best funded terrorist organization on the planet.

They scored over $400 million in one fell swoop. Think if they seized Baghdad. Aye carumba!

Looks like Iran though has stepped in to save the day. I for one will be relieved if they can wipe this terrorist offshoot of AQ off the face of the earth.

 

[Peach]

Obama is such a loser that he has no clue how to respond ? What about all the campaign promises. Only the inadequate blame others for their shortcomings.

Yes, like no "nation building" before we built a house of cards......

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yeah. Obama wanted to end this war prematurely, and did. He ran on the fact that he brought the troops home in 2012. So, now he finds himself in a conundrum. Stick to his political rhetoric, or risk angering his base by helping the Iraqis.

 

[Peach]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

As the GOP always says, how are we going to pay for it?
How much blood and treasure are we going to piss away on an Iraqi "government" that can't function as a government, an Iraqi "army" that can't function as an army, and an Iraqi "police force" that can't function as a police force?

We mortgaged the next century to begin this.......yest one was a traitor not to support the invasion.

 

[Kondor3]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

As the GOP always says, how are we going to pay for it?
How much blood and treasure are we going to piss away on an Iraqi "government" that can't function as a government, an Iraqi "army" that can't function as an army, and an Iraqi "police force" that can't function as a police force?

We mortgaged the next century to begin this.......yest one was a traitor not to support the invasion.

No...

One could disagree with the President and his Administration all one wanted, in the period preceding invasion...

To continue to publicly oppose it after our boys and girls were committed, and already engaged?

Thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy?

Well, that's oftentimes viewed as a different kind of animal, and more closely akin to treason, in the minds of many good people on both sides of the aisle.

 

[deltex1]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

Too late...just purge the Magic Neeeeeeeeeeeegro.

 

[Pheonixops]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

If they are fighting each other, they aren't focusing on US. Let them handle their own business or let them request help from the UN and let OTHER countries "help" them. We need a break and WE need to focus on America first.

Would you keep spending money on a bad investment or would you cut your losses and spend that money on something more productive? I certainly wouldn't want to risk Our people's lives for them? What was one of the reasons that we totally pulled out of Iraq? Didn't it involve the Iraqi government's reluctance to grant immunity to Our military members who would still remain there?

 

[TemplarKormac]

If they are fighting each other, they aren't focusing on US. Let them handle their own business or let them request help from the UN and let OTHER countries "help" them. We need a break and WE need to focus on America first.

It's quite foolish to assume that these guys aren't focused on doing us harm. Just look at how they responded to the Bergdahl trade. They vowed to start abducting Americans for ransom in exchange for their own fighters.

Obama's foreign policy on Iraq is like putting a pot of water on a rolling boil, then putting it on simmer in hopes it will stop boiling altogether.

 

[J.E.D]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

So long as Obama gets the blame, I couldn't care less if Iraq implodes. A Democrat will not get elected for the next 40 years if that happens.

Americans don't want their troops there. Nobody but pussy chickenhawks like [MENTION=29100]bripat9643[/MENTION] aka bribaby and your ilk think we should stay.

But thanks for showing your true colors. As long as it hurts Obama, who cares? Who cares if more US troops die? As long as it hurts Democrats.

You are one sorry sack of human feces. Go fuck your own asshole rimless. Fuck you.

 

[tinydancer]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

If they are fighting each other, they aren't focusing on US. Let them handle their own business or let them request help from the UN and let OTHER countries "help" them. We need a break and WE need to focus on America first.

Would you keep spending money on a bad investment or would you cut your losses and spend that money on something more productive? I certainly wouldn't want to risk Our people's lives for them? What was one of the reasons that we totally pulled out of Iraq? Didn't it involve the Iraqi government's reluctance to grant immunity to Our military members who would still remain there?

With all due respect Phoenix Ops we are not dealing with a Sunni insurgency as so many on the left tried to portray this invasion of Iraq earlier today.

Oh no no no. We are talking a terrorist army of reportedly 12,000 who had the ability to over run Tikrit and Mosul scoring $400 million plus along the way to now become the richest terror group on the planet.

They are ISIS and Levant whose leader makes Bin Laden look as tough as Liberace. We are talking pure kick ass psycho rock star of terrorists. His name is Baghdadi.

On the bright side while Obama has been dithering, Iran has come to the rescue of the Iraqi people and most importantly are helping to defend Baghdad.

You have to realize that if this terrorist army truly seizes Iraq and is able to plunder Baghdad for her wealth, destroy the oil fields, have access to all the military hardware we gave Iraq, well hell will rain down on the planet.